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  • MD
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    #106
    Originally posted by The iron sheik
    you're fine with that, of course you are

    you are the tool that talks about people capping MMA and making a 40k net profit with a maximum of 100K, when in 2012 there were probably about under a thousand big event fights in total including the undercards, everything (I'm not even going to check this and throw out an estimate because the suggestion is so goddamn obvious and motherfukking retarded)

    what kind of an idiot simpleton suggests that? mein gott, you're about as retarded as poyasophy on his off day
    Answer my question.
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    • NunyaBidness
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      • 07-26-09
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      #107
      Originally posted by The iron sheik

      Does anyone want to claim making 40k/year on MMA alone?
      $26,732 YTD. But who knows, December might suck.
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      • The iron sheik
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        • 01-17-13
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        #108
        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
        40% profit for year is such a tiny figure. Achieving a 300-400% bankroll growth should be easily doable for a winning sports bettor in almost any field, assuming no take out, and assuming we haven't reached a point where max bets become a problem.

        You're not understanding the concept of compounding.
        I do, but for a thousand fights it is a fantastic and completely fabricated claim. It's pretty fantastic even if you were to bet every sport there is.


        Are you seriously suggesting such a magical person exists, that caps every major event MMA fight, a thousand fights that is. One thousand fights a year that's even available to bet on, pretty much. Every single fight there ever is thats pretty much bettable... and makes a 40k net profit with a 100k bank roll? I don't really even understand why such an absurdity should even be dissected here.
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        • Grabaka
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          • 02-19-11
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          #109
          Originally posted by NunyaBidness
          $26,732 YTD. But who knows, December might suck.
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          • The iron sheik
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            #110
            Originally posted by MD
            Answer my question.
            I don't think I will, since you have absolutely nothing to worthwhile to say it seems. Keep harping on it, though. You talk about your magic unicorns first, feel free to participate Mr.Walters
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            • MD
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              #111
              Originally posted by The iron sheik
              I do, but for a thousand fights it is a fantastic and completely fabricated claim. It's pretty fantastic even if you were to bet every sport there is.


              Are you seriously suggesting such a magical person exists, that caps every major event MMA fight, a thousand fights that is. One thousand fights a year that's even available to bet on, pretty much. Every single fight there ever is thats pretty much bettable... and makes a 40k net profit with a 100k bank roll? I don't really even understand why such an absurdity should even be dissected here.
              And that, bruhv, is the entire point.
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              • MD
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                #112
                Originally posted by The iron sheik
                I don't think I will, since you have absolutely nothing to worthwhile to say it seems. Keep harping on it, though. You talk about your magic unicorns first, feel free to participate Mr.Walters
                That's what I thought. Dodgers will dodge. Liar. Dodger. Etc.
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                • The iron sheik
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                  #113
                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                  $26,732 YTD. But who knows, December might suck.
                  To be honest I'd find even that pretty absurd, but I want to make it clear that I do not mean this as dishonesty on your behalf, nor am I even trying to dispute this claim. What I do want to say though is, that this is a very very rare exception if true, and with you I might believe it, but not with almost 100% of posters here. Majority of posters here are losers nevertheless.

                  Good job fwiw
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                  • DSSCA
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                    • 03-07-12
                    • 454

                    #114
                    Isn't ROI calculated by: return on investment(%) = Net profit / Investment × 100? Or am I missing something?
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                    • The iron sheik
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                      #115
                      Originally posted by MD
                      That's what I thought. Dodgers will dodge. Liar. Dodger. Etc.
                      You can't seem to produce anything indicative of such profit regardless of BR, so if you don't want to be called an idiot liar, don't post idiot lies. Just saying bro
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                      • NunyaBidness
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                        #116
                        Originally posted by The iron sheik
                        Are you seriously suggesting such a magical person exists, that caps every major event MMA fight, a thousand fights that is. One thousand fights a year that's even available to bet on, pretty much. Every single fight there ever is thats pretty much bettable... and makes a 40k net profit with a 100k bank roll? I don't really even understand why such an absurdity should even be dissected here.
                        I don't think you understand the edges that are available. If I bet a line at +900 and it closes at +300, do you realize how big of an edge that is? Do you understand how often these show up?

                        What if a book gives me a line of -150 that should be literally -50000? How big of an edge is that? I am not talking about handicapping, mind you, simply off numbers.
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                        • NunyaBidness
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                          #117
                          Originally posted by The iron sheik
                          To be honest I'd find even that pretty absurd, but I want to make it clear that I do not mean this as dishonesty on your behalf, nor am I even trying to dispute this claim. What I do want to say though is, that this is a very very rare exception if true, and with you I might believe it, but not with almost 100% of posters here. Majority of posters here are losers nevertheless.

                          Good job fwiw
                          I would be willing to set up a prop bet, where we hire an outside accounting firm to analyze my accounts to determine if its true or not.
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                          • Grabaka
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                            • 02-19-11
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                            #118
                            Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                            This is why we need more boobz posted.
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                            • The iron sheik
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                              #119
                              Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                              I don't think you understand the edges that are available. If I bet a line at +900 and it closes at +300, do you realize how big of an edge that is? Do you understand how often these show up?

                              What if a book gives me a line of -150 that should be literally -50000? How big of an edge is that? I am not talking about handicapping, mind you, simply off numbers.
                              For all sports, I guess I could. For MMA alone, it does sound very suspectible.

                              In a thousand fights? Again, if this estimation is close (I think it is, it's probably even upscaled), a thousand fights "available". With of course, you always getting the edge and not the other way around? Again, not suggesting you aren't skilled in what you do.
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                              • MD
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                                #120
                                Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                You can't seem to produce anything indicative of such profit regardless of BR, so if you don't want to be called an idiot liar, don't post idiot lies. Just saying bro
                                I think I broke him guys. I bullied him so much that he's turtled up and is just repeating "idiot, liar" over and over again while hoping I go away.
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                                • Grabaka
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                                  • 02-19-11
                                  • 3216

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                  I would be willing to set up a prop bet, where we hire an outside accounting firm to analyze my accounts to determine if its true or not.
                                  Ok i can do it for you fellaz. Im such a nice samaritan.
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                                  • The iron sheik
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                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by MD
                                    I think I broke him guys. I bullied him so much that he's turtled up and is just repeating "idiot, liar" over and over again while hoping I go away.
                                    Well, you are a liar so it's only fitting to call you one. Tell us more Mr.Walters.
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                                    • The iron sheik
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                                      • 01-17-13
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                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by Grabaka
                                      Ok i can do it for you fellaz. Im such a nice samaritan.
                                      I have no intention of such things even if someone did set it up. I think I worded that reply wrong to him. I didn't mean it to voice dishonesty either way.
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                                      • DSSCA
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                                        • 03-07-12
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                                        #124
                                        I always thought if I had $100 and had a net profit of $40, wouldn't that be 40% return? Given the formula I posted of return on investment (%) = Net profit / Investment × 100. Am I missing something? I feel like maybe I am not taking into account the lines? I will 100% be the first person to say that I am probably the worst at math on this whole forum, lol. Real talk. If I am wrong I would love to not keep making this mistake. Lol,
                                        I appreciate any help! Thanks guys.
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                                        • The iron sheik
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                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by DSSCA
                                          I always thought if I had $100 and had a net profit of $40, wouldn't that be 40% return? Given the formula I posted of return on investment (%) = Net profit / Investment × 100. Am I missing something? I feel like maybe I am not taking into account the lines? I will 100% be the first person to say that I am probably the worst at math on this whole forum, lol. Real talk. If I am wrong I would love to not keep making this mistake. Lol,
                                          I appreciate any help! Thanks guys.
                                          regardless of it, the net profit and BR were posted numerous times and he just tries to wiggle himself out of his bull shit that makes little to no sense
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                                          • MD
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                                            • 01-31-12
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                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by DSSCA
                                            I always thought if I had $100 and had a net profit of $40, wouldn't that be 40% return? Given the formula I posted of return on investment (%) = Net profit / Investment × 100. Am I missing something? I feel like maybe I am not taking into account the lines? I will 100% be the first person to say that I am probably the worst at math on this whole forum, lol. Real talk. If I am wrong I would love to not keep making this mistake. Lol,
                                            I appreciate any help! Thanks guys.
                                            I PM'd you.
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                                            • Grabaka
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                                              • 02-19-11
                                              • 3216

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                              I have no intention of such things even if someone did set it up. I think I worded that reply wrong to him. I didn't mean it to voice dishonesty either way.
                                              I just need Nunyas bets to follow this case.
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                                              • MD
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                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                                Well, you are a liar so it's only fitting to call you one. Tell us more Mr.Walters.
                                                Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                                regardless of it, the net profit and BR were posted numerous times and he just tries to wiggle himself out of his bull shit that makes little to no sense
                                                Show what I lied about and show what it is that I'm "wiggling out of". Is that something you think works? Dodge other people and then just keep saying they're dodging and hope that no one realizes so you don't look stupid?
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                                                • NunyaBidness
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                                                  • 07-26-09
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                                                  #129
                                                  To answer DSSCA, ROI isn't that great of a concept for sportsbetting. Expected and actual growth are.

                                                  MD is a poker player, so he's stuck in the ROI model that many SNG players are.
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                                                  • NunyaBidness
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                                                    • 07-26-09
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                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Grabaka
                                                    I just need Nunyas bets to follow this case.
                                                    Bet for today was Robert Karlsson to win round 1 at +6000. Unfortunately it lost.
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                                                    • MD
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                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                      To answer DSSCA, ROI isn't that great of a concept for sportsbetting. Expected and actual growth are.

                                                      MD is a poker player, so he's stuck in the ROI model that many SNG players are.
                                                      Hey, hey, hey, I measure my progress in bankroll growth.

                                                      I don't even keep track of my ROI.
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                                                      • DSSCA
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                                                        • 03-07-12
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                                                        #132
                                                        Thanks for the PM MD. Appreciated brotha!
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                                                        • The iron sheik
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                                                          • 01-17-13
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                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by MD
                                                          It doesn't really matter what my bankroll is, or how much I make per year. None of it will ever be substantiated, and no one has any reason to believe me.
                                                          Originally posted by MD
                                                          I like how you ask that a professional gambler provide you with information about what is an achievable figure to make through professional gambling, and then when he gives you a figure, you demand that he substantiate it. No one owes you anything, get over yourself.
                                                          Not like it was an IRS investigation, I guess I could have taken a serious reply at face value just like I did with Nunya. I think I'd have taken it at face value. Then again in retrospect honesty doesn't seem to be your thing Mr.Walters so I guess it doesn't even matter if you don't want to lie some more.
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                                                          • NunyaBidness
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                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by MD
                                                            Hey, hey, hey, I measure my progress in bankroll growth.

                                                            I don't even keep track of my ROI.
                                                            Wasn't meant as a dig. I track ROI. ROI can lead you to bad decisions, however.

                                                            You can optimize your ROI by only betting high edge situations. However, you optimize bankroll growth by betting all +EV/EG situations.

                                                            For the same reason that 7/11 would rather sell you a 64oz slurpee for 2 cents profit per ounce than a 16oz slurpee for 3 cents profit per ounce.
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                                                            • MD
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                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                                              Not like it was an IRS investigation, I guess I could have taken a serious reply at face value just like I did with Nunya. I think I'd have taken it at face value. Then again in retrospect honesty doesn't seem to be your thing Mr.Walters so I guess it doesn't even matter if you don't want to lie some more.
                                                              I'm not even sure what you're accusing me of or trying to state here. What is it those quotes are supposed to represent?
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                                                              • NunyaBidness
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                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                                This is why we need more boobz posted.
                                                                But there's already so many boobz POSTING!
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                                                                • The iron sheik
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                                                  so you're saying if you have a grillion bazillion dollar bankroll you can make a living out of things? You can make a living by guessing the mega millions winner lines on 5dimes if that's the case.

                                                                  now, "making a living" is kind of subjective like suggested before, but no I don't think there are people that will make ...say, 40 thousand dollars a year by playing MMA alone.
                                                                  Well, this is the post you found hilarious for some reason. It was followed by me asking you do you know anyone that makes 40k a year, but I guess you were too busy being an asshole and dodging the obvious reply (=no I don't make 40k a year and I don't know anyone that does really, except perhaps for someone that posted in this thread after me). I also said in the reply after that I don't want exact figures, and that poyasophy does not need to apply (because he is an obvious air bettor and dishonest)

                                                                  Do whatever you have to do to pretend to be a big baller to all the little boys and keep dreaming of fantastic returns unattainable for close to a 100% of this forum base if it gets your rocks off snookums
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                                                                  • The iron sheik
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    also I didn't really follow up on nunya on what his figure is composed off, what his BR is, and does that figure mean MMA alone. The reason for me being skeptical about this is because of the volume of events.
                                                                    Nevertheless, nothing wrong with the figure he posted or his explanation(s) of it. Because like said, it's not an IRS investigation and I still maintain it's an exception, but he's one of the posters that I would believe saying that.
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                                                                    • MD
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                                                      Well, this is the post you found hilarious for some reason. It was followed by me asking you do you know anyone that makes 40k a year, but I guess you were too busy being an asshole and dodging the obvious reply (=no I don't make 40k a year and I don't know anyone that does really, except perhaps for someone that posted in this thread after me). I also said in the reply after that I don't want exact figures, and that poyasophy does not need to apply (because he is an obvious air bettor and dishonest)

                                                                      Do whatever you have to do to pretend to be a big baller to all the little boys and keep dreaming of fantastic returns unattainable for close to a 100% of this forum base if it gets your rocks off snookums
                                                                      Uh, AGAIN, what are you suggesting? Of course I'm not going to tell you how much I make, nor am I going to tell you how much the people I know make.

                                                                      Is this the part where we just quote random things the other guy says that have nothing to do with anything and act as if they're relevant? You made a post where you said English isn't your native language! Ha! I proved you wrong again!
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                                                                      • NunyaBidness
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                                                        also I didn't really follow up on nunya on what his figure is composed off, what his BR is, and does that figure mean MMA alone.
                                                                        Yes, that's MMA alone. You can't fill up a helicopters gas tank on dreams, afterall.

                                                                        I'm not disclosing my bankroll; but I will admit I did not build it betting MMA. According to Gabe, I built it killing my mother.
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