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  • NunyaBidness
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-26-09
    • 9345

    #71
    I'm only referring to the Hale line. I think he'll close +120ish.

    Hale already -130.
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    • MD
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-31-12
      • 9728

      #72
      While you're here, I meant to ask. How do you feel about Kelly sizing vs flat betting methods in regards to MMA and sports betting in general? I've seen some arguments against Kelly online, and although I disagree, I don't have the knowledge to disprove them myself. Figured I'd ask you. I'm aware that Kelly is optimal, however.
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      • MD
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-31-12
        • 9728

        #73
        Fletcher/Parke goes the distance and Pierce/Baczynski goes the distance small: +300
        Fletcher/Parke goes the distance small: +145

        Gonna play Pearson/Sotiropoulos goes the distance if the odds hit positive money.
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        • NunyaBidness
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-26-09
          • 9345

          #74
          The sport makes no difference, kelly staking is always optimal.

          Any anti-kelly arguments you're hearing are probably from touts or people selling a system, or just straight schmucks. I've never met a professional bettor or even card counter who didn't swear by kelly. Some people will say Kelly has too much variance, but you can set your kelly multiplier to whatever you want. 1/4 is pretty common.

          If you have specific arguments against it, I can try and debunk them.
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          • MD
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-31-12
            • 9728

            #75


            This one is the most notable I've come across, although even I can see some of the issues with it.
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            • PunisherIND
              SBR MVP
              • 02-24-11
              • 4979

              #76
              Originally posted by MD
              Fletcher/Parke goes the distance and Pierce/Baczynski goes the distance small: +300
              Fletcher/Parke goes the distance small: +145

              Gonna play Pearson/Sotiropoulos goes the distance if the odds hit positive money.



              on both of these as well.
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              • MD
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-31-12
                • 9728

                #77
                Sotiropoulos/Pearson goes the distance: +105.
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                • gabe
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-12-11
                  • 7405

                  #78
                  If things don't go your way, you might need to look into an apartment, instead. #apartmentofwinnerz
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                  • Crassus
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-08-12
                    • 1538

                    #79
                    Originally posted by MD
                    Sotiropoulos/Pearson goes the distance: +105.
                    You really think it'll go 5 rounds? I feel like if either don't get the finish early they'll gas by at most the middle of the 4th and then it's gonna favor Sotiropolus to hit a weak sub (like a choke)
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                    • MD
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-31-12
                      • 9728

                      #80
                      Originally posted by gabe
                      If things don't go your way, you might need to look into an apartment, instead. #apartmentofwinnerz
                      I'm a turbo bankroll nit. I probably bet less than at least a few guys on the forum as a whole, but I'd be very surprised if there were many who have a bigger bankroll. All dat bankroll management brah.

                      Originally posted by Crassus
                      You really think it'll go 5 rounds? I feel like if either don't get the finish early they'll gas by at most the middle of the 4th and then it's gonna favor Sotiropolus to hit a weak sub (like a choke)
                      I think it's a reasonable possibility. 60-65%. Some pretty good value at +money.
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                      • Crassus
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-08-12
                        • 1538

                        #81
                        Originally posted by MD
                        I think it's a reasonable possibility. 60-65%. Some pretty good value at +money.
                        Can you give me the reasoning behind the 60-65%?
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                        • gabe
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-12-11
                          • 7405

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Crassus
                          Can you give me the reasoning behind the 60-65%?
                          Here is his reasoning:

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                          • MD
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-31-12
                            • 9728

                            #83


                            Originally posted by Crassus
                            Can you give me the reasoning behind the 60-65%?
                            Sure. To be brief: Pearson is a better striker, but I don't think he hits hard enough to finish Sotiropoulos with any great degree of consistency. He very well could hit George with a right hook and put him out, and George may very well catch Pearson in a sub, but honestly, I see this fight being more of a grapplefest than most people expect. Pearson attempts a lot of takedowns, which many seem to be discounting, and when he fails on takedowns, he's very content to hold his opponent against the fence for extended periods of time. He's very strong in the clinch. Sotiropoulos is similar, but he's much more aggressive with his attempts and tries harder to get the fight to the ground. They both have reasonably strong gastanks, especially Sotiropoulos; I'd expect him to have an edge there.

                            I expect some uneventful striking exchanges in which Pearson outpoints Sotiropoulos, followed by extended periods of clinching and cage work in what will turn out to be a very boring main event. 60-65% of the time, at least. A late Sotiropoulos submission or an early Pearson KO are also possibilities. Pearson wins in round 2 is a strong play.
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                            • MD
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-31-12
                              • 9728

                              #84
                              Mendes/Meza starts round 3 small: +135

                              So far, my bets look like this:

                              Mendes/Meza starts round 3 small: +135
                              Fletcher/Parke goes the distance and Pierce/Baczynski goes the distance parlay: +300
                              Fletcher/Parke goes the distance: +145
                              Sotiropoulos/Pearson goes the distance: +105
                              Brad Scott +160 small
                              Norman Parke +105 moderate-large
                              Manny Rodrigues small +160
                              Matt Mitrione small +210
                              Jamie Varner small -110
                              Poirier large -170
                              Colton Smith moderate +230
                              Ross Pearson moderate +115
                              Lombard/Poirier parlay, moderate
                              Moderate arb on Del Rosario/Barry
                              Beltran +300 small
                              Jansen -165
                              Hale -155

                              Big weekend. Hope for the best guiz.
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                              • Crassus
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-08-12
                                • 1538

                                #85
                                Originally posted by MD
                                Mendes/Meza starts round 3 small: +135

                                So far, my bets look like this:

                                Mendes/Meza starts round 3 small: +135
                                Fletcher/Parke goes the distance and Pierce/Baczynski goes the distance parlay: +300
                                Fletcher/Parke goes the distance: +145
                                Sotiropoulos/Pearson goes the distance: +105
                                Brad Scott +160 small
                                Norman Parke +105 moderate-large
                                Manny Rodrigues small +160
                                Matt Mitrione small +210
                                Jamie Varner small -110
                                Poirier large -170
                                Colton Smith moderate +230
                                Ross Pearson moderate +115
                                Lombard/Poirier parlay, moderate
                                Moderate arb on Del Rosario/Barry
                                Beltran +300 small
                                Jansen -165
                                Hale -155

                                Big weekend. Hope for the best guiz.

                                Against you on a couple plays but not enough that we won't both do well if the right things happen. Best of luck dude!
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                                • MD
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-31-12
                                  • 9728

                                  #86
                                  ^ Cheers man, appreciate it. Hope you do well, also. I always enjoy winning nights more when everyone else is also winning. Gives me some more faith in our collective ability to beat the books.

                                  Originally posted by MD
                                  I MISSED MY PARLAY AND I DON'T GIVE A F-UCK.

                                  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

                                  F-CK YOU PACQUIAO. F-CK YOU. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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                                  • MD
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-31-12
                                    • 9728

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by MD
                                    Mendes/Meza starts round 3 small: +135

                                    So far, my bets look like this:

                                    Mendes/Meza starts round 3 small: +135
                                    Fletcher/Parke goes the distance and Pierce/Baczynski goes the distance parlay: +300
                                    Fletcher/Parke goes the distance: +145
                                    Sotiropoulos/Pearson goes the distance: +105
                                    Brad Scott +160 small
                                    Norman Parke +105 moderate-large
                                    Manny Rodrigues small +160
                                    Matt Mitrione small +210
                                    Jamie Varner small -110
                                    Poirier large -170
                                    Colton Smith moderate +230
                                    Ross Pearson moderate +115
                                    Lombard/Poirier parlay, moderate
                                    Moderate arb on Del Rosario/Barry
                                    Beltran +300 small
                                    Jansen -165
                                    Hale -155

                                    Big weekend. Hope for the best guiz.
                                    Arbing out of the Beltran bet, Igor at -235. Put more on Beltran at +300 on Sportsbook, and Igor at -235 on 5dimes for what is now a moderate arb.
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                                    • MD
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-31-12
                                      • 9728

                                      #88
                                      Cashed my arbs, and Beltran, although it was a small bet, it's always a good feeling to cash a +300 ticket.
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                                      • MD
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-31-12
                                        • 9728

                                        #89
                                        Did Kenny really just say that Chad "lay and pray" Mendes is knocking guys out left and right because he finished two massive cans in a row? Good lord. The UFC really IS giving him these guys on purpose.

                                        Also, my "starts round three" doesn't cash. Unfortunate, but somewhat expected.
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                                        • NunyaBidness
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-26-09
                                          • 9345

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                          I'm only referring to the Hale line. I think he'll close +120ish.
                                          Psychic message provided at no charge.
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                                          • MD
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-31-12
                                            • 9728

                                            #91
                                            ^Great call.

                                            Bit more on Scott at +225, adding an arb with Sotiropoulos at +170.

                                            EDIT: Good God Whitaker's hair is awful.
                                            Last edited by MD; 12-14-12, 10:13 PM.
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                                            • MD
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-31-12
                                              • 9728

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by MD
                                              Mendes/Meza starts round 3 small: +135
                                              Fletcher/Parke goes the distance and Pierce/Baczynski goes the distance parlay: +300
                                              Fletcher/Parke goes the distance: +145

                                              Sotiropoulos/Pearson goes the distance: +105
                                              Brad Scott +160 small
                                              Norman Parke +105 moderate-large
                                              Manny Rodrigues small +160
                                              Matt Mitrione small +210
                                              Jamie Varner small -110
                                              Poirier large -170
                                              Colton Smith moderate +230
                                              Ross Pearson moderate +115
                                              Lombard/Poirier parlay, moderate
                                              Moderate arb on Del Rosario/Barry
                                              Beltran +300 small
                                              Jansen -165
                                              Hale -155
                                              Originally posted by MD
                                              Bit more on Scott at +225, adding an arb with Sotiropoulos at +170.

                                              Lost small-moderate on Scott (was originally small, but I added more at +225), lost small on the Mendes o/u and Rodriguez plays, lost small on Sotiropoulos/Pearson goes to decision, lost small on Hale.
                                              Won fairly large on Norman Parke straight up, fairly large on that parlay and distance play (together, not individually), won moderate on Pearson at +115, cashed moderate on the Beltran play at +300, and of course my arbs cashed.

                                              Huge night for me, profits-wise. Small bet on Beltran cashed very well, I got some good arbs, and I won all of my big and moderate plays and cashed very, very nicely. Plus, I got to see Pearson absolutely embarrass Sotiropoulos.

                                              Hopefully the good times will continue tomorrow night.
                                              Last edited by MD; 12-14-12, 11:13 PM.
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                                              • MD
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-31-12
                                                • 9728

                                                #93
                                                Really hoping for a Poirier win tomorrow; I'm large on him straight, and he's the last leg of these parlays:

                                                Pending 2 Team Parlay
                                                Win 12/14/12 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Hector Lombard -210* vs Rousimar Palhares
                                                Pending 12/15/12 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Dustin Poirier -260* vs Jonathan Brookins
                                                Pending 5 Team Parlay
                                                Win 12/14/12 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Hector Lombard -210* vs Rousimar Palhares
                                                Win 12/14/12 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1401 Chad Mendes -1300* vs Yaotzin Meza
                                                Win 12/14/12 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1602 Mike Pierce -325* vs Seth Baczynski
                                                Win 12/14/12 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Mike Wilkinson -205* vs Brendan Loughnane
                                                Pending 12/15/12 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Dustin Poirier -260* vs Jonathan Brookins
                                                +102, and +320, approximately.

                                                Was on the wrong side in the Wilkinson fight, though.
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                                                • MD
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-31-12
                                                  • 9728

                                                  #94
                                                  Matt Mitrione small +210
                                                  Jamie Varner small -110
                                                  Poirier large -170
                                                  Colton Smith moderate +230
                                                  Lombard/Poirier parlay, moderate
                                                  Del Rosario/Poirier parlay at just under +100, large.

                                                  1. 12/15/2012 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1202 Shane del Rosario* -240 vs Pat Barry
                                                  2. 12/15/2012 7:30 PM UFC Fighting 1702 Rustam Khabilov* -230 vs Vinc Pichel
                                                  3. 12/15/2012 5:30 PM UFC Fighting 1952 Tim Elliott* -165 vs Jared Papazian


                                                  +220 approximately, somewhere in that region. Small.

                                                  If Poirier wins, it's going to be an absolutely massive weekend for me regardless of how my other bets go. About as big as weekends get.
                                                  I added more to Mitrione, and will possibly add a bit more closer to fight time if the odds improve.
                                                  Last edited by MD; 12-15-12, 08:43 AM.
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                                                  • MD
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-31-12
                                                    • 9728

                                                    #95
                                                    Edited in more plays.
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                                                    • ShotgunRua
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 09-12-12
                                                      • 376

                                                      #96
                                                      Good luck MD!
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                                                      • DeFactoCrippler
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-30-12
                                                        • 2603

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                                        If things don't go your way, you might need to look into an apartment, instead. #apartmentofwinnerz
                                                        No, in that case he should change it to "MD's house of pickz not playz".

                                                        I used the pickz/playz system to build my fortune back when I booked with that jew phaget joey oddessa in new york. We would settle up every week in this joo deli in brooklyn. One day I walked in and told the heebs behind he counter "Gimmie a ham and cheese sandwich".

                                                        They started glaring at me and said they don't serve that here. I slammed my hands down on the countertop and said "This is a deli and you don't got ham and cheese? You better go around he corner to the ko-reans and get me some oscar meyer and kraft singles". Little joo ran off real quick to get the fixins".

                                                        It was then I spotted Odessa. He was hiding in the corner hoping I would see him. Even though the entire restaurant was starting at me he said "hey defacto didn't see you buddy". I told him "cut the shit jooboy, i had the dodgers last night, pay up".

                                                        "You had the Dodgers? I thought you were pickin em not playin em". "No I was playin em". It was then he handed me a pre counted wad of bills in the amount of my winnings and I say "If you thought I was picken em why did you have it ready for me!". I whacked him in the head with the wad of bills, it was only meant to be a playful smack but he was knocked out face first into his mazza ball soup.

                                                        - Ham and Cheese to Go by DeFactoCrippler
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #98
                                                          goooooooood lord
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                                                          • bjpenn85
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-17-11
                                                            • 5059

                                                            #99
                                                            outstanding!
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                                                            • Crassus
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-08-12
                                                              • 1538

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                                                              It was then I spotted Odessa. He was hiding in the corner hoping I would see him. Even though the entire restaurant was starting at me he said "hey defacto didn't see you buddy". I told him "cut the shit jooboy, i had the dodgers last night, pay up".

                                                              "You had the Dodgers? I thought you were pickin em not playin em". "No I was playin em". It was then he handed me a pre counted wad of bills in the amount of my winnings and I say "If you thought I was picken em why did you have it ready for me!". I whacked him in the head with the wad of bills, it was only meant to be a playful smack but he was knocked out face first into his mazza ball soup.

                                                              - Ham and Cheese to Go by DeFactoCrippler
                                                              Quoting directly out of Casino? You're better than that...
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                                                              • DeFactoCrippler
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-30-12
                                                                • 2603

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Crassus
                                                                Quoting directly out of Casino? You're better than that...
                                                                lol that was the point.

                                                                but i really wouldn't expect you to understand such nuances when you talk to one person who is blowing smoke up your ass with different handles.

                                                                you really used to be a sweet kid crassus, back when you were literally betting $1 per fight. but then you just changed "$" to "unit" and became the best capper on the internet (according to the writers blowing smoke up your ass atleast)

                                                                If I told you to "go home and get your focking shinebox", would I be quoting from goodfellas?
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                                                                • Crassus
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-08-12
                                                                  • 1538

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                                                                  lol that was the point.

                                                                  but i really wouldn't expect you to understand such nuances when you talk to one person who is blowing smoke up your ass with different handles.

                                                                  you really used to be a sweet kid crassus, back when you were literally betting $1 per fight. but then you just changed "$" to "unit" and became the best capper on the internet (according to the writers blowing smoke up your ass atleast)

                                                                  If I told you to "go home and get your focking shinebox", would I be quoting from goodfellas?
                                                                  Oh I'm sure I missed all sort of subtle nuances in your post, I'm sure it was all brilliant commentary. Cmon now you can do better then that can't you, don't you remember when I didn't bet at all and I was simulating everything? Hell, remember when I thought when dealing with a 50/50 fight the best case would be to parlay BOTH fighters with two "locks"?

                                                                  And it's best capper on SBR. Get it straight now.
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                                                                  • DeFactoCrippler
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-30-12
                                                                    • 2603

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Crassus
                                                                    And it's best capper on SBR. Get it straight now.
                                                                    To be fair, punisher said he knew of no better advice on the internet than JC, vaughan, BJpenn and you. Serious.

                                                                    I mean, BJpenn is solid, and I have pinched v's pecker through his burberry raincoat numerous times, but best on the internet?

                                                                    Tell me crassus, how come every time I want a lawyer they are ALWAYS busy? ALWAYS, unless they are a criminal laywer and you're in jail. But we have laywers here who take the time out of their "busy" day to pinch the peckers of kids and tell them they are the best on the net.

                                                                    24 hours a day I can get a high five emoticon reply from a real lawyer!
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                                                                      To be fair, punisher said he knew of no better advice on the internet than JC, vaughan, BJpenn and you. Serious.

                                                                      I mean, BJpenn is solid, and I have pinched v's pecker through his burberry raincoat numerous times, but best on the internet?

                                                                      Tell me crassus, how come every time I want a lawyer they are ALWAYS busy? ALWAYS, unless they are a criminal laywer and you're in jail. But we have laywers here who take the time out of their "busy" day to pinch the peckers of kids and tell them they are the best on the net.

                                                                      24 hours a day I can get a high five emoticon reply from a real lawyer!
                                                                      ahahhaaaa
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                                                                      • Crassus
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-08-12
                                                                        • 1538

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                                                                        To be fair, punisher said he knew of no better advice on the internet than JC, vaughan, BJpenn and you. Serious.

                                                                        I mean, BJpenn is solid, and I have pinched v's pecker through his burberry raincoat numerous times, but best on the internet?

                                                                        Tell me crassus, how come every time I want a lawyer they are ALWAYS busy? ALWAYS, unless they are a criminal laywer and you're in jail. But we have laywers here who take the time out of their "busy" day to pinch the peckers of kids and tell them they are the best on the net.

                                                                        24 hours a day I can get a high five emoticon reply from a real lawyer!
                                                                        I take it back, one of the four best cappers on the internet. Badass.

                                                                        I would imagine it's because lawyers don't do anything for free, I personally pay Punisher a TON of sbr points for the smiley faces on my thread. It's a business after all.

                                                                        Question for you, you seem to have a ton of problems with the community here (and being the dirty manlet kids we are who can blame you) so how would you fix it? How ever do we gain the respect we all so desperately crave?
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