Originally posted by Wallco99
Originally posted by Wallco99
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When was it stated plays need to close above -140?
Why did you not consider this a play?
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MIL opened at -145 at 5Dimes, moved to -143 about 45 minutes later, then climbed from there. It opened at -150 at Pinnacle, two hours before it was at 5D.Comment -
I already stated this a few days ago. Since no one has any idea how on3 qualifies plays, since he uses a lot of his own handicapping which really hasn't been discussed, my feeling is the safest way to play this system until he returns is by the actual rules posted by the actual creator of this system, which I already posted in here, so there is no need to do it again. And a team remaining over -140 after opening at -145 or higher is one of his criteria. The way on3 actually does it, neither you nor anyone knows.Originally posted by oklahomaWhen was it stated plays need to close above -140?
Why did you not consider this a play?
If you play every game that opens or reaches -145 at any point in the day, then there would have been about 8 plays today. A little much for a system such as this with the high odds. Go read through the other thread to see how to actually play the system, or just bet every game everybody lists here until one of the incorrect plays bites you in the ass. It's your dime, spend it how you wish.Comment -
It opened at about 30 other sportsbooks as well, are you just taking the best ones you can find, or actually using an official site. And from everything I've seen, they OPENED at -143 at 5Dimes, not -145.Originally posted by darkmatter117Comment -
MLB Line Moves - Baseball Betting Odds
Fri, June 08/12 8:10 PM ET
San Diego at Milwaukee
Offshore Odds 5Dimes Odds (Line) Over/Under (Total) 06/07/12 8:17:43 PM -143 (Open) OFF 06/07/12 8:17:44 PM -143 7.5u -110 (Open) 06/07/12 9:07:42 PM -143 7.5u -115 06/07/12 9:17:42 PM -147 7.5u -115 06/07/12 10:07:42 PM -147 7.5u -120 06/07/12 11:57:42 PM -148 7.5u -120 06/08/12 12:07:42 AM -152 7.5u -120 06/08/12 12:27:42 AM -148 7.5u -120 06/08/12 12:57:43 AM -152 7.5u -120 06/08/12 1:07:42 AM -151 7.5u -125 06/08/12 1:27:43 AM -151 7.5u -115 06/08/12 2:07:42 AM -151 7.5u -110 06/08/12 3:47:42 AM -153 7.5 -105 06/08/12 4:17:42 AM -153 7.5o -110 06/08/12 6:17:42 AM -153 7.5 -105 06/08/12 8:17:42 AM -159 7.5 -105 06/08/12 8:47:43 AM -159 8o -110 06/08/12 8:57:42 AM -159 7.5o -125 06/08/12 9:07:42 AM -160 7.5o -125 06/08/12 9:17:43 AM -160 8o -110 06/08/12 9:37:43 AM -164 8o -110 06/08/12 10:27:42 AM -160 8o -108 06/08/12 10:47:42 AM -160 8 -105 06/08/12 11:47:42 AM -155 8 -105 06/08/12 11:57:43 AM -155 8o -110 06/08/12 12:57:43 PM -155 8o -115 06/08/12 4:27:42 PM -155 8.5u -112 06/08/12 7:07:43 PM -155 8.5u -115 Comment -
Is 5Dimes the "official" sportsbook for this system? I thought it was Pinnacle, which I can't seem to find on Covers either but I'm internet-disabled.Originally posted by Wallco99Comment -
wallco feel free to post the plays and ill just run the labby & records. I never said it was time consuming. I just welcomed who ever else wants to run the thread to do so. I am just going by the opening lines and as for MIL people suggested other books opened higher then -145 and based on how on3 runs it, It would of been a play in most peoples mind.
Anyways remarkable 9th innning by ARZ!!! Sucks I took -1 on the 3 games today LOL. I dont really like high odds, but anyways 1-0 if i cancel the pushes and 3-0 for the system bringing it back into the black
I guess Ill keep posting the "wrong" plays and keep making profit then...Comment -
UPDATED for 06/09/2012
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 63-5-0; Profit: +.465
Filtered System: 17-0-0; Profit: +13.2 units
5/2 chase: 4-0-0; profit: +14 units
Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 37-31; 10-7
Game 2 (B) win = 22-9; 5-2; 2-2
Game 3 (C) win = 4-5; 2-0; 2-0
Date 06/09/2012
Final Labby Lines for 6/9/2012
X- X -X -39.30
58.93 - 58.93 - 58.93 - 58.93
X - 95.70 - 95.70 -X
New Line Filtered
X - 66.17 - X - X
Regular
Filtered
The next potential plays are on the 11th. Congrats on having all 3 systems in the black
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on3 mentioned several times that 5dimes was what he used, no point in changing that. Pinnacle changed their formats, finding their opening lines without actually having an account is next to impossible. That is why I think he switched to 5dimes, which is reasonable. It doesn't matter which one you use, as long as it's ONE, but we should probably stick to the one he's been using.Originally posted by alexknycComment -
That's the spirit! I don't need to post them, I already know them. But thanks for the offer.Originally posted by J.M. Disciplewallco feel free to post the plays and ill just run the labby & records. I never said it was time consuming. I just welcomed who ever else wants to run the thread to do so. I am just going by the opening lines and as for MIL people suggested other books opened higher then -145 and based on how on3 runs it, It would of been a play in most peoples mind.
Anyways remarkable 9th innning by ARZ!!! Sucks I took -1 on the 3 games today LOL. I dont really like high odds, but anyways 1-0 if i cancel the pushes and 3-0 for the system bringing it back into the black
I guess Ill keep posting the "wrong" plays and keep making profit then...Comment -
Originally posted by Wallco99
This is my last post on the MIL game, but it opened at -145 at 5D. Click on the line under the 5Dimes column and it shows the line history. Wherever you see -143, you're not seeing the true opening line. I mentioned 5D because it's what on3 seems to use; personally, I respect Pinnacle's lines more, and it opened there at -150.Comment -
TheRizz (original creator of the system) said he tested both opening and closing and while some plays were voided and added on by doing this the end result was very similar. Still, stick with the opening 5Dimes lines. Only qualify a play that doesn't open with the system requirements if there is a big move like On3 has been doing, very simple really. This whole argument is just another reason to play 5/2, closing lines couldn't be easier to understand! /shameless plug
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Happy to see all three systems in the positive...Now let's get on a major win streak for the rest of the season.
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just checking in. im on a beach in Bali on my honeymoon. JMD youre doing great man, and a HUGE thank you for keeping up this thread. be back in about 8 days or so. im glad everyone is back to making money.
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Congrats On3 and have a lovely tripComment -
Anyone know the dates of the 5 series losses we had? I want to check and see if the teams were above .500 at that time.Comment -
gotta get your priorities straight On3
the 2012 Opening Game system thread is much more important then spending time away with your new wife
congrats
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Congradulations On3.
All the way from Sydney Australia.
Actually your not that far away at the moment you should pop down,bring your missus. There's a great football game here on Wednesday night.Comment -
TOR tomorrow to clear 39.30. I'll make official post tomorrow.
I see it opened at -144 at 5 dimes. Currently -151. Most other books opened at -145 or higher (mostly in the 150s) so It should definitely count in my mind. Ill make official post tomorrow.
Good Luck all.
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Congrats on3! Enjoy your trip!Comment -
UPDATED for 06/11/2012
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 63-5-0; Profit: +.465
Filtered System: 17-0-0; Profit: +13.2 units
5/2 chase: 4-0-0; profit: +14 units
Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 37-31; 10-7
Game 2 (B) win = 22-9; 5-2; 2-2
Game 3 (C) win = 4-5; 2-0; 2-0
Date 06/11/2012
Final Labby Lines for 6/11/2012
X- X -X -39.30
58.93 - 58.93 - 58.93 - 58.93
X - 95.70 - 95.70 -X
New Line Filtered
X - 66.17 - X - X
Regular
#69 tor (A) (-151) vs Washington. to win $39.30 o/u 8
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Could be up to 7 plays tomorrow. St. Louis is on the line right now with the early lines.
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thats not good news.... not sure how I am going to manage the labbyOriginally posted by MrMannix
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You've been doing great. If there's more than 4 plays I'd split 2 games from line 2 and add them to line 1 to balance everything out a little. Then I'd rebalance line 2 to make everything on that line even.Originally posted by J.M. Disciplethats not good news.... not sure how I am going to manage the labby
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JUNE 12
Orioles (-154) vs Pirates
Rays (-151) vs Mets
Royals (+136) vs Brewers
Twins (+111) vs Phillies
Mariners (-166) vs Padres
Rangers (-173) vs D-Backs
Cubs (+113) vs Tigers
Reds (-165) vs Indians
Cardinals (-145) vs White Sox
Rockies (-117) vs Athletics
Giants (-160) vs Astros
we do in fact have 7 plays tomorrow... yes tomorrow! the number again is seven! Going to be action packed day. Im going to spend some time and arrange the numbers best I can to allow for all 7 plays to fit into line A and Line B. Still have to tally's today loss as well.
No rush.. .Games dont start until 7pm ET.
edit 8 plays! LOL almost forgot to count torronto... Had it in my head as a play, but didn't add it to the total games.Comment -
Make that 8 plays, Toronto (B) betComment -
UPDATED for 06/12/2012
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 63-5-0; Profit: -2.5
Filtered System: 17-0-0; Profit: +13.2 units
5/2 chase: 4-0-0; profit: +14 units
Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 37-32; 10-7
Game 2 (B) win = 22-9; 5-2; 2-2
Game 3 (C) win = 4-5; 2-0; 2-0
Date 06/12/2012
Final Labby Lines for 6/12/2012
X- X -65.72 – 65.72
65.72 – 65.72 - 65.72 – 65.72
X– 65.72 - 65.72- X
New Line Filtered
X - 66.17 - X - X
Regular
#69 tor (B) (-151) vs Washington. To win $65.72
# 70 Orioles (-154) vs Pirates To win $65.72
# 71 Rays (-151) vs Mets To win $65.72
# 72 Mariners (-166) vs Padres To win $65.72
# 73 Rangers (-173) vs D-Backs To win $65.72 o/u 10
# 74 Reds (-165) vs Indians To win $65.72
# 75 Cardinals (-145) vs White Sox To win $65.72
# 76 Giants (-160) vs Astros To win $65.72
Filtered
# 18 Rangers (-173) vs D-Backs To win $66.17 o/u 10
****yesterday loss of $59.35 added to line A
Total money in play $525.78 (26.29u)
Total numbers in play 8
8 total games tomorrow so I averaged out the lines
Keeping same amount of #s on each line.
I am really hoping for a sweep for this system tomorrow which will bring us 3 cleared lines 
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A sweep tomorrow would put this system +23.5 units in the black
There are a couple games at 8.5 but i will not be counting them as filtered plays if they move up to 9. I checked all the games for opening lines via 5 dimes. I did not check the opening lines for the o/u so if I missed a filtered play "my bad." Just let me know and Ill find a way to add it in. I think I got all the games and odds though.
Good Luck to everyone! Even the trollsComment -
Just went over the games looking at covers stats on it and I have to say I really dislike almost every single line. I wish we only had 1 or 2 games instead of 8. Disadvantage in pitching and momentum in a lot of the games. Extremely high priced lines tomorrow and I have a feeling the public is going to get raped. Seattle is the only game I liked out of all 8 games.
In terms of series.. sure I could see them winning 2 out of 3 or 1 out 3 for sure, but these are some dreadful A bets tomorrow.Comment -
Thanks for all your efforts J.M, going to be a "fun" three days (not sure fun is the right word). The games i,m particularly worried about are St Louis and Toronto.Originally posted by J.M. DiscipleComment -
Originally posted by J.M. DiscipleUPDATED for 06/12/2012
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 63-5-0; Profit: -2.5
Filtered System: 17-0-0; Profit: +13.2 units
5/2 chase: 4-0-0; profit: +14 units
Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 37-32; 10-7
Game 2 (B) win = 22-9; 5-2; 2-2
Game 3 (C) win = 4-5; 2-0; 2-0
Date 06/12/2012
Final Labby Lines for 6/12/2012
X- X -65.72 – 65.72
65.72 – 65.72 - 65.72 – 65.72
X– 65.72 - 65.72- X
New Line Filtered
X - 66.17 - X - X
Regular
#69 tor (B) (-151) vs Washington. To win $65.72
# 70 Orioles (-154) vs Pirates To win $65.72
# 71 Rays (-151) vs Mets To win $65.72
# 72 Mariners (-166) vs Padres To win $65.72
# 73 Rangers (-173) vs D-Backs To win $65.72 o/u 10
# 74 Reds (-165) vs Indians To win $65.72
# 75 Cardinals (-145) vs White Sox To win $65.72
# 76 Giants (-160) vs Astros To win $65.72
Filtered
# 18 Rangers (-173) vs D-Backs To win $66.17 o/u 10
****yesterday loss of $59.35 added to line A
Total money in play $525.78 (26.29u)
Total numbers in play 8
8 total games tomorrow so I averaged out the lines
Keeping same amount of #s on each line.
I am really hoping for a sweep for this system tomorrow which will bring us 3 cleared lines
I am in no means trying to run this thread but just out of curiosity why you didn't balance the lines a little less aggressively? If you lose 4-5 game 1's today and a 2-3 game 2's the system is going to be nearly 10 units in the hole again depending on game 3 results. You stated total money in play @ $525.78 but thats not correct, that's what were trying to win. In actuality it's over $830 to win that.......I'm not trying to be the negative one because I have been playing and following but we have lost over half the 1st games before as well as swept them but you've put over 40 units into play on 1 single game day. With over 2 months left and this being a marathon instead of a sprint do you think it's wise to be so aggresive?Comment -
Originally posted by chound
I did not really see a better way to do it based on the fact that were trying to clear the lines. Only other way was to bet the two #s we had on line A and bet everything else $20. In the past I said to start a new line if there were not enough numbers but i was convinced that on3 used #s from line B with the A bets.
If it gets too out of hand, then we will find a way to manage it. Right now its eight 3.25 unit bets pending Juice on each one. I am just the helper in the thread. When the games are over if you want to suggest some better way to lay out the numbers be my guest. I am open to suggestions. I just seen 8 games and 8 #s and avoiding my "capping" skills I wanted to make each game "fair" so i assigned each game an equal amount.
Next time just post what lines you think would be better and I might use them. Appreciate it, but the way I laid out seemed to be best opportunity at the time.
pending today's results, i will make my post later at night to give people opportunity to provide a better way to run the lines.Comment -
I did make a suggestion in post #1916......Below is how I laid mine out. I agree we're trying to clear lines but right now were starting to get into the profit again by baby steps.....not strides.....From all my years of gambling the easiest way to blow a bankroll (Which I have done on many times is to get to agressive) and try to recoup losses fast. The reason for using the labby is to slowly recoup losses and make STEADY gains.Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
I'm only trying to help. You've been doing GREAT and was willing to step in for On3. I'd like to help but my work schedule 4 days a week doesn't allow me to post except in the evening and early morning.
41.80-41.80-41.80-41.80
41.80-41.80-41.80-41.80
x-95.70-95.70-x
It's less aggressive but I can sustain a loss much easier and will be able to continue on with a one or two (which can happen at any time)Comment
