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  • boeing power
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-23-10
    • 9698

    #1
    Is Arizona the easiest bet today?
    Arizona is the better team

    Kennedy is a stud especially on the road

    Francis is a bum

    public hammering zona

    and Zona is only -114


    KC ROYALS +107 for me

  • face
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-31-11
    • 14740

    #2
    line is puzzling
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    • dudekid
      SBR MVP
      • 12-08-09
      • 3200

      #3
      im on royals as well...BOL
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      • lunchbawks
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-31-10
        • 12873

        #4
        FF o4 -115 looks tempting.

        im on zona, they get it done
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        • BigDofBA
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-30-09
          • 19313

          #5
          The first poster has the right idea. I've lost playing 4 favorites in a row. I'm taking KC as the dog.
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          • Lord and Master
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            • 05-31-11
            • 531

            #6
            Originally posted by boeing power
            Arizona is the better team
            and the books have made them a pretty big favorite considering they're on the road


            and Zona is only -114

            ONLY -114 on the road? are you kidding me? Thats quite the line for two teams neither of which are among the best or worst in the league. And your perception of this being described as "only -114" is why home dogs in baseball are such a good bet
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            • boeing power
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-23-10
              • 9698

              #7
              Originally posted by Lord and Master
              and the books have made them a pretty big favorite considering they're on the road





              ONLY -114 on the road? are you kidding me? Thats quite the line for two teams neither of which are among the best or worst in the league. And your perception of this being described as "only -114" is why home dogs in baseball are such a good bet

              Arizona is tied for the 7th best record in MLB.

              KC is 4th last in all of mlb

              you have no idea what you're talking about, move along
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              • LGHT
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-18-11
                • 513

                #8
                Francis is 0-5 with an 8.53 ERA in his last six starts against the Diamondbacks and coming off one of his worst outings of the season after giving up 6 runs and 9 hits in 3 1/3 innings. He is also 2-2 with a 6.07 ERA in his last five starts.

                Upton is 5 for 12 (.417) with two homers in his career against Jeff Francis.

                I see AZ getting 5 runs off of francis before he gets knocked out in the 6th and another 3 runs from the pen.

                Kennedy should be able to hold KC to 3 runs max and AZ gets the win 8-3.
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                • boeing power
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-23-10
                  • 9698

                  #9
                  this line should be -135 for Zona, so either the books made a huge mistake or they think KC wins

                  I will take my chances wth KC
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                  • RockyMiavia
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 06-02-11
                    • 266

                    #10
                    Yeah Francis is a joke man. That dude can't pitch and I don't know why he is still in the rotation. Dude gives up runs and gives it up in bunches man.
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                    • RockyMiavia
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 06-02-11
                      • 266

                      #11
                      I got 1 unit on Arizona and on the Over. GL all.
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                      • LGHT
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 04-18-11
                        • 513

                        #12
                        Not sure about lines much as I don't follow them. I just try and go with the team I feel has the best chance of winning statistically and based on the stats against Francis it's hard to go with a pitcher that is pretty much on his way down to AAA.
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                        • Boxing Champ
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-11-11
                          • 3358

                          #13
                          He used to be dominant with the Rockies...I don't know what happened to'em..
                          I don't think he wants to play for KC
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                          • face
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-31-11
                            • 14740

                            #14
                            i agree with both lght and boeing power. i have arizona diamondbacks and will watch kc somehow win i guess, and lose money.
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                            • LGHT
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 04-18-11
                              • 513

                              #15
                              hahah it always seems to happen that way I mean look at SD about to win 2 in a row IN Bos with a 5-0 lead. I think they where -208 by the time the game started.
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                              • og4667
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-17-09
                                • 2438

                                #16
                                Backs have been playing great not going against them. They have edge in pitching and overall. Still not a fan of road favs but dbacks should get it done
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                                • bostonbruins
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-02-08
                                  • 3272

                                  #17
                                  Over 8 at even money looks good
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                                  • TwoWays
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-24-10
                                    • 13145

                                    #18
                                    Public on Arizona yesterday too. What happened yesterday?
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                                    • jay777
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 05-31-11
                                      • 109

                                      #19
                                      Arz 5 in-122
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                                      • Jackie Moon
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 04-21-11
                                        • 207

                                        #20
                                        Dbacks easy!! Royals bats are bad and struggling
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                                        • Whippit
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                                          • 04-29-10
                                          • 3065

                                          #21
                                          Francis isn't that bad, plus he's a lefty

                                          decent chance somebody picks him up at the trade deadline
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                                          • LGHT
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 04-18-11
                                            • 513

                                            #22
                                            Francis has a 6.07 ERA in his last five starts if that aint bad what is??
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                                            • a4u2fear
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-29-10
                                              • 8147

                                              #23
                                              Arizona...cash it.
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                                              • HoulihansTX
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                                                • 02-12-09
                                                • 30566

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by boeing power
                                                Arizona is tied for the 7th best record in MLB. KC is 4th last in all of mlb you have no idea what you're talking about, move along
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                                                • Whippit
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                                                  • 04-29-10
                                                  • 3065

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by LGHT
                                                  Francis has a 6.07 ERA in his last five starts if that aint bad what is??


                                                  he won 3 of his last 6 starts

                                                  either way he's got 8 yrs in the majors, so what's there to say about a handful of starts
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                                                  • Lord and Master
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                                                    • 05-31-11
                                                    • 531

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by boeing power
                                                    Arizona is tied for the 7th best record in MLB.

                                                    KC is 4th last in all of mlb

                                                    you have no idea what you're talking about, move along
                                                    KC has the 11th best offense in the league only .22 OPS behind arizona. Francis and Kennedy are only half a point difference in xFIP. why do I even bother arguing with someone who's trying to tell me about team records i don't know
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                                                    • jds07v
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-19-09
                                                      • 1335

                                                      #27
                                                      I'm riding with Kennedy today. 1 Unit play
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                                                      • HoulihansTX
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                                                        • 02-12-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Lord and Master
                                                        KC has the 11th best offense in the league only .22 OPS behind arizona. Francis and Kennedy are only half a point difference in xFIP. why do I even bother arguing with someone who's trying to tell me about team records i don't know
                                                        Dude he said that he is taking the Royals.
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                                                        • rochestertitans
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                                                          • 12-14-09
                                                          • 8149

                                                          #29
                                                          its on streak for cash to.. trap
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                                                          • gryfyn1
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                                                            • 03-30-10
                                                            • 3285

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Lord and Master
                                                            KC has the 11th best offense in the league only .22 OPS behind arizona. Francis and Kennedy are only half a point difference in xFIP. why do I even bother arguing with someone who's trying to tell me about team records i don't know
                                                            but these teams are going in vastly different directions..

                                                            Over the last 28 days Arizona has a 796 OPS vs KCs 704, despite the fact for the season their OPS+ are same.

                                                            And While a "half point" in xFip is a big difference again francis is is going the wrong way,posting monthly xFips of 3.47/3.95/5.06 vs Kennedy's 3.39/3.85/3.25.
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                                                            • Checkerboard
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                                                              • 05-15-06
                                                              • 7799

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Lord and Master
                                                              KC has the 11th best offense in the league only .22 OPS behind arizona. Francis and Kennedy are only half a point difference in xFIP. why do I even bother arguing with someone who's trying to tell me about team records i don't know
                                                              u tell us
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                                                              • LGHT
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 04-18-11
                                                                • 513

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Whippit


                                                                he won 3 of his last 6 starts

                                                                either way he's got 8 yrs in the majors, so what's there to say about a handful of starts
                                                                You need to dig a bit deeper and understand that wins are not always equal. If you look at who he beat you will realize that he beat the Angels twice in those 3 wins and we all know (I hope) how bad the angels are. I mean come on FL just beat them. His other win was against SL more than a month ago although he did pitch well.

                                                                So your logic of he won 3 of 6 carries little to no weight and the fact that he has 8 years in the league means nothing if he sux a$$ now.

                                                                You need to understand that your betting on him NOW a game he played 8 years ago so it doesn't matter if he had a 1.58 era 8 years ago if he has over 6.00 era NOW
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                                                                • Lord and Master
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                                                                  • 05-31-11
                                                                  • 531

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                                                  but these teams are going in vastly different directions..

                                                                  Over the last 28 days Arizona has a 796 OPS vs KCs 704, despite the fact for the season their OPS+ are same.

                                                                  And While a "half point" in xFip is a big difference again francis is is going the wrong way,posting monthly xFips of 3.47/3.95/5.06 vs Kennedy's 3.39/3.85/3.25.
                                                                  aren't we lucky then that using prior month's performance is a poor sole predictor of future results. I don't know how much the line shifts if you plugged in that performance vs an assumed performance of full season averages. Do you have an idea?

                                                                  As for Francis' month of June, would you argue that his 3 starts should be indicative of anything? his K/9 rate was half his season avg and his BB/9 2.70 in those starts
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                                                                  • cankid
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                                                                    • 08-22-08
                                                                    • 7240

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Boxing Champ
                                                                    He used to be dominant with the Rockies...I don't know what happened to'em..
                                                                    I don't think he wants to play for KC

                                                                    injuries
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                                                                    • boeing power
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-23-10
                                                                      • 9698

                                                                      #35
                                                                      my point is that francis is bad, kennedy is a stud

                                                                      Zona is the better team

                                                                      the line should be at least -130

                                                                      yet the line is moving the other way with public pounding zona

                                                                      Zona looks like easy money

                                                                      we all know how that usually ends

                                                                      SQUARES are on zona

                                                                      1 Unit on KC Royals +107

                                                                      not guaranteeing anything but I like my chances
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