1. 10-18-23 07:10 AM #1
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    Grading Issue

    I bet Nick Castellanos to record 1 Total Base and it was graded a lose

    How is this possible when he got on base by a walk

    I think it should of been graded a WIN

    Any input?
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  2. 10-18-23 10:17 AM #2
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    Grading issue

    I had nick castallanos to get 1 base last night
    Shouldn’t that be graded a winner
    He got walked
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  3. 10-18-23 10:24 AM #3
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    no. to my knowledge, only hits count as bases. walks, errors or any other way someone reaches does not count.
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  4. 10-18-23 10:35 AM #4
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    Then why would they have the 2 different markets on hits and total bases
    There would be no difference on over under .5
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  5. 10-18-23 01:10 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefs83 View Post
    Then why would they have the 2 different markets on hits and total bases
    There would be no difference on over under .5
    I don't bet these props but wouldn't hits be considered one hit for anything no matter how many bases. For example, a home run or single is the same as one hit.

    But total bases will count the number of bases pending on the hit where home run = 4 bases, triple = 3 bases, etc.
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  6. 10-18-23 01:27 PM #6
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    I know that…my example makes more sense tho on 1/2 props for total bases…
    How are they offering these when it’s impossible to win without a hit IF a walk doesn’t count
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  7. 10-18-23 01:51 PM #7
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    I got confused when you asked about why have two markets. I don't know then why they would offer 0.5 for both when walks don't count for both.
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  8. 10-18-23 03:04 PM #8
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    WHat does your book rules say?

    Which book?
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  9. 10-18-23 03:53 PM #9
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    The wager was definitely deceiving. I looked at the total hits market for Nick Castallanos and they had it at Over half a hit at -175, then I look at the odds for Total Bases on Nick Castallanos and they were offering Over/Under half a base and the Over odds were higher than -175. That’s why I figured walks count. Didn’t find out till this morning that there was NO WAY for me to win unless Nick Castallanos got a HIT. Pretty deceiving if you ask me. Also looked at the Total Bases for tonight’s game and they aren’t offering any player at Over/Under half a base. They are all at Over/Under 1.5 Total Bases. Coincidence, I think NOT
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  10. 10-18-23 05:52 PM #10
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    A total base refers to base hits only, walks, errors hit by pitches, and stolen bases are not considered
    It's been like that forever.

    Total bases is calculated in slugging percentage, walks are calculated into on base percentage only.
    You don't get credit for a total base if you reach via base on balls.

    Walk = 0 TB
    Single = 1 TB
    Double = 2 TB
    Triple = 3 TB
    Home Run = 4 TB


    Last night Bryce Harper had a hit and reached base via walk.
    His hit was a HR, that's four tota bases, the walk is no considered a total base, but it calculated with the HR in the onbase calculation.
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  11. 10-18-23 05:53 PM #11
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    Think a walk should count as 1 base.

    I mean "on base percentage" is Walk + hit + hit by pitch all included.

    They should pay you ma man
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  12. 10-18-23 06:01 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by jedihyoju View Post
    Think a walk should count as 1 base.

    I mean "on base percentage" is Walk + hit + hit by pitch all included.

    They should pay you ma man
    A walk IS NOT a total base.
    It's never been considered a total base.

    https://www.sportslingo.com/sports-g...t/total-bases/
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  13. 10-18-23 06:02 PM #13
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    Total bases can be 1,2,3 or 4 in a hit. A hit that's a triple us 1 hit and 3 bases
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  14. 10-18-23 06:09 PM #14
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    Damn guys, he already said he knew the differences between hits and total bases. I'm confused exactly the issue and not quite sure what it is the issue other than the books have 0.5 for both hits and total bases. If they have the same odds, then I get it. But if they have different odds, then don't get the issue that op is arguing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    A walk IS NOT a total base.
    It's never been considered a total base.

    https://www.sportslingo.com/sports-g...t/total-bases/
    Oh I thought it should count simply in baseball you say when a person walks , he is on base.

    You right ma man clearly says in rule book
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  16. 10-18-23 08:25 PM #16
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    Hits Market
    Over .5 Hits -175 Under +130

    Bases Market
    Over .5 Base +100 Under …..
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  17. 10-18-23 08:42 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    A total base refers to base hits only, walks, errors hit by pitches, and stolen bases are not considered
    It's been like that forever.



    Total bases is calculated in slugging percentage, walks are calculated into on base percentage only.
    You don't get credit for a total base if you reach via base on balls.

    Walk = 0 TB
    Single = 1 TB
    Double = 2 TB
    Triple = 3 TB
    Home Run = 4 TB


    Last night Bryce Harper had a hit and reached base via walk.
    His hit was a HR, that's four tota bases, the walk is no considered a total base, but it calculated with the HR in the onbase calculation.
    This is 1000% correct
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  18. 10-18-23 08:49 PM #18
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    Total bases refer to the number of bases gained by a batter through his hits. A batter records one total base for a single, two total bases for a double, three total bases for a triple and four total bases for a home run. Total Bases are recorded through hits by the listed player. Even if you steal a base it doesn't count as a total base.
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  19. 10-18-23 09:56 PM #19
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    Do you see how the odds listed are deceiving…
    There is know way to get half a base without a hit…by looking at those odds is why I thought a walk would count
    Last edited by Chiefs83; 10-18-23 at 09:58 PM. Reason: …spell
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  20. 10-18-23 11:25 PM #20
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    With respect you were betting something you did not understand the difference of, can’t blame the book
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