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  • Machine Choice
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-08
    • 3997

    #1
    Nationals and Red Sox, a lesson in motivation today
    Both teams were going for sweeps today against horrible opponents. And it looks like both teams will probably lose. Boston has already lost. In the case of the Nats, they were up against a Padres team that was 20-48 in their last 68 road games, and were averaging 2.6 runs per game vs righties in their last 10 games. In the case of the Red Sox, they were facing a pitcher who had given up 10 runs in his last start, and the Red Sox were outscoring the Mariners by almost 4 runs per game in their last 10 games.

    So what happened? Neither team gave a flying phuck about their opponent, didn't take them seriously, and then lost. This should show us all NOT to eliminate the variable of MOTIVATION from our handicapping. If one team seems like an obvious winner, then they probably won't take the game seriously. This is an angle that I use big time in College Basketball, but it's equally important in baseball. Try to only bet on games where each team is equally motivated.
  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #2
    Are you new to watching baseball? I'm assuming you are, judging by the comments in this post. You act like this is some sort of new, unusual development.
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    • Machine Choice
      SBR MVP
      • 12-12-08
      • 3997

      #3
      Yes, I am new to watching baseball. This is my first season watching/betting. It's an interesting game.
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      • No coincidences
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-18-10
        • 76300

        #4
        Originally posted by Machine Choice
        Yes, I am new to watching baseball. This is my first season watching/betting. It's an interesting game.
        Let me just say this: be careful laying chalk. I'm not saying there isn't a time and place, but over the course of a 162-game season, you can't assume anything. Even the worst team is full of professionals, and even the best team loses 60-70 times a year.
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        • omega
          SBR MVP
          • 04-20-14
          • 1201

          #5
          Originally posted by Machine Choice
          Yes, I am new to watching baseball. This is my first season watching/betting. It's an interesting game.
          Priceless. I expected any answer but this.
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          • StLouisCards
            SBR High Roller
            • 03-31-17
            • 109

            #6
            Originally posted by omega
            Priceless. I expected any answer but this.


            same lol
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            • JerseyGodFather
              SBR MVP
              • 01-23-17
              • 1494

              #7
              Originally posted by No coincidences
              Let me just say this: be careful laying chalk. I'm not saying there isn't a time and place, but over the course of a 162-game season, you can't assume anything. Even the worst team is full of professionals, and even the best team loses 60-70 times a year.
              This sums it up right here
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              • PAULYPOKER
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 12-06-08
                • 36581

                #8
                Always bet against the sweep....

                Sweeps are very difficult, even for the .600 and better teams...
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                • BigDofBA
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-30-09
                  • 19313

                  #9
                  Padres seemed easy to me.

                  Red Sox weren't so obvious. They were on a nice winning streak. .
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                  • fecgp40
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-01-11
                    • 5750

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                    Always bet against the sweep....

                    Sweeps are very difficult, even for the .600 and better teams...
                    This is why even though my brain said the Royals would win today, my gut was saying Indians. Took Royals anyway though with Duffy vs. Tomlin. Smh.
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                    • Machine Choice
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-12-08
                      • 3997

                      #11
                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                      Let me just say this: be careful laying chalk. I'm not saying there isn't a time and place, but over the course of a 162-game season, you can't assume anything. Even the worst team is full of professionals, and even the best team loses 60-70 times a year.
                      Thank you. I thought the big favorites always win. Wow, I have to learn about this game of baseball.
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                      • shadymcgrady
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-27-12
                        • 10036

                        #12
                        Trying to find motivation during the nba reg season is like looking for waldo
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                        • juicername
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-14-15
                          • 6906

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Machine Choice
                          Both teams were going for sweeps today against horrible opponents. And it looks like both teams will probably lose. Boston has already lost. In the case of the Nats, they were up against a Padres team that was 20-48 in their last 68 road games, and were averaging 2.6 runs per game vs righties in their last 10 games. In the case of the Red Sox, they were facing a pitcher who had given up 10 runs in his last start, and the Red Sox were outscoring the Mariners by almost 4 runs per game in their last 10 games.

                          So what happened? Neither team gave a flying phuck about their opponent, didn't take them seriously, and then lost. This should show us all NOT to eliminate the variable of MOTIVATION from our handicapping. If one team seems like an obvious winner, then they probably won't take the game seriously. This is an angle that I use big time in College Basketball, but it's equally important in baseball. Try to only bet on games where each team is equally motivated.
                          Your conclusion seems to be way way off. Why not identify spots where only one team is motivated and bet it if it's so easy?
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                          • Machine Choice
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-12-08
                            • 3997

                            #14
                            Originally posted by juicername
                            Your conclusion seems to be way way off. Why not identify spots where only one team is motivated and bet it if it's so easy?
                            Because usually the team that is unmotivated is facing a weaker opponent. And I didn't say motivation is the only factor. It is a factor to be considered. On paper the Red Sox should have destroyed the Mariners yesterday, but they played lifeless baseball. That does not mean that Seattle should have been a bet. The best bet in these situations is "pass." You never know when the favorite is gonna show up against an inferior opponent and crush them.
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                            • PAULYPOKER
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 12-06-08
                              • 36581

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Machine Choice
                              Both teams were going for sweeps today against horrible opponents. And it looks like both teams will probably lose. Boston has already lost. In the case of the Nats, they were up against a Padres team that was 20-48 in their last 68 road games, and were averaging 2.6 runs per game vs righties in their last 10 games. In the case of the Red Sox, they were facing a pitcher who had given up 10 runs in his last start, and the Red Sox were outscoring the Mariners by almost 4 runs per game in their last 10 games.

                              So what happened? Neither team gave a flying phuck about their opponent, didn't take them seriously, and then lost. This should show us all NOT to eliminate the variable of MOTIVATION from our handicapping. If one team seems like an obvious winner, then they probably won't take the game seriously. This is an angle that I use big time in College Basketball, but it's equally important in baseball. Try to only bet on games where each team is equally motivated.
                              Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                              Always bet against the sweep....

                              Sweeps are very difficult, even for the .600 and better teams...
                              Wow man Tough loss''''.........

                              I told you last to always bet against the sweep.............
                              Nationals and Red Sox, a lesson in motivation
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