2013 MLB thread

[2daBank]

I was thinking the +1.5 there. I don't necessarily think Oakland will win the game, but at these odds, given the lack of a legitimate gap between these two teams compared to the line, you almost have to take advantage of the inflated Yu number.

yea pitching matchup be damned teams are much closer than line suggest (of coarse i thought it was ridiculous that As were dogs yesterday so guess whole team inflated not just yu cause oak had the pitching adv yesterday w/o a doubt)..i have to look into gms in tex, i considered taking the rl as well but then i thought might not be as valuable in Arlington (have to look into that), if it that close id prob be just as happy with that fat + money..

[2daBank]

hell we talking bout a oak team that has won 7 of 10 from tex and i believe is 2-1 vs yu..seems crazy tex is -205..

[No coincidences]

Tonight's leans:

OAK +1.5 -110
CHC +136
NYM +105
HOU +117
WAS +106

[curtrambus]

You like Garza fresh off the DL today?

[EXhoosier10]

You like Garza fresh off the DL today?

11 K's and 4 BB's in four minor league starts. That being said, he only went 75 pitches in his longest start, so I don't expect to see him go more than 6 tonight.

I'm never big on laying juice on the road with more than a game or two, but man, it's going to be hard to pass on some of these games given the matchups -- at least FF's.

I'm with you on the short road fav feeling, but I couldn't lay off last night. Historically, this hasn't really been a good idea as numbers via killersports back up our feelings (http://bit.ly/118Yyhv)

[RavensFan2k3]

11 K's and 4 BB's in four minor league starts. That being said, he only went 75 pitches in his longest start, so I don't expect to see him go more than 6 tonight.

M Garza
5.0IP 7hits 6Runs 5ER 1BB 6SO 3HR

Game at Pitt in 2012

Also Pitt is hitting .306 vs Garza all time

[face]

some ump stuff if anyone's interested. there is this thread at another site that is pretty awesome. forum is almost called cappingthe_ame

Ron Kulpa = Home Team TeamTotal is 1-7 O/U when Kulpa behind home plate. (in citifield tonight)

Wally Bell = Home Team TeamTotal is 3-9 O/U when Bell behind home plate. (in milwaukee tonight)

Adrian Johnson = Road Team TeamTotal is 7-1 O/U when Johnson behind home plate. (in colorado tonight)

Paul Nauert = Home Team TeamTotal is 7-2 O/U when Nauert is behind home plate. (in atlanta tonight)

Joe West = Home Team TotalTotal is 0-4 O/U when West is behind home plate. (in miami tonight)

Bob Davidson = Road TeamTotal is 8-3 O/U when Davidson is behind home plate. (in texas tonight)

[face]

dogs are 8-1 when reynolds behind home plate. he's in houston

[TankHankerous]

The other forum is called cappingthegame.com, thanks for the info face.

[EXhoosier10]

M Garza
5.0IP 7hits 6Runs 5ER 1BB 6SO 3HR

Game at Pitt in 2012

Also Pitt is hitting .306 vs Garza all time

Who was the ump? What was the weather like? Was the wind blowing out? Is the lineup going to be the same then as it will be today? Was he in the midst of a spell of poor mechanics? When have the pirates obtained those AB's v Garza --- have they all been against the NL version of Matt Garza (as he's changed his arsenal a bit since coming to the NL) --- and have the hitters changed their approach since those previous AB's? What defense did the Cubs run out that day?

All this to say that a 1 game sample using the data you provided is hardly significant when related to the averages provided by his previous 300 innings / 50 game sample. And the 11:4 MiLB data i provided is merely to show that he hasn't been a total trainwreck and that he ahs actually thrown in the minors unlike others coming off the DL.

not trying to come off as rude, just pointing out to others that the info you provided shouldn't necessarily be taken at face value

[curtrambus]

Wandy is a good pitcher I can deal with it if Garza throws a good game on his first game back...that being said he won't be going deep into the game and the Cubs bullpen has been lets just say iffy this year.

[RavensFan2k3]

Who was the ump? What was the weather like? Was the wind blowing out? Is the lineup going to be the same then as it will be today? Was he in the midst of a spell of poor mechanics? When have the pirates obtained those AB's v Garza --- have they all been against the NL version of Matt Garza (as he's changed his arsenal a bit since coming to the NL) --- and have the hitters changed their approach since those previous AB's? What defense did the Cubs run out that day?

All this to say that a 1 game sample using the data you provided is hardly significant when related to the averages provided by his previous 300 innings / 50 game sample. And the 11:4 MiLB data i provided is merely to show that he hasn't been a total trainwreck and that he ahs actually thrown in the minors unlike others coming off the DL.

not trying to come off as rude, just pointing out to others that the info you provided shouldn't necessarily be taken at face value

No you're right. I wasnt trying to say that one game is the say all, just contributing some data

[2daBank]

I have no real interest in scrubbies gm but see a lot of talk in here so for anyone who cares what I understand garza's cap gonna be 85-90 pitches, so figure 6 inn is bout most u get.

[bballs84]

Banker do the Cards get it done tonight?

[t-bone]

something fishy about the det/clev line......pitching mismatch on paper and kluber just got crushed by detroit about a week ago

[t-bone]

some ump stuff if anyone's interested. there is this thread at another site that is pretty awesome. forum is almost called cappingthe_ame

Ron Kulpa = Home Team TeamTotal is 1-7 O/U when Kulpa behind home plate. (in citifield tonight)

Wally Bell = Home Team TeamTotal is 3-9 O/U when Bell behind home plate. (in milwaukee tonight)

Adrian Johnson = Road Team TeamTotal is 7-1 O/U when Johnson behind home plate. (in colorado tonight)

Paul Nauert = Home Team TeamTotal is 7-2 O/U when Nauert is behind home plate. (in atlanta tonight)

Joe West = Home Team TotalTotal is 0-4 O/U when West is behind home plate. (in miami tonight)

Bob Davidson = Road TeamTotal is 8-3 O/U when Davidson is behind home plate. (in texas tonight)

great info face!

[Vasco]

Can we trust the Angels tonight? I like their team total over 4.5 vs Harang.

[2daBank]

Banker do the Cards get it done tonight?

I think so. I'd expect waino to be good after not so good last outing and volquez has atrocious numbers w this ump behind plate, not huge sample and on phone ATM so can't give u exact numbers but think it was at least 4-5 gms and really ugly numbers. So ugly I took cards-1.5 +120

[2daBank]

my bad only 3 gms 2 starts w hickox but damn..

Year-by-Year: Ed Hickox

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	2005	0	1	.000	40.50	1	0	0	0	0	0	0.2	4	3	3	0	1	0	1	0	0		7	7.500	13.5	1.00
	2008	0	1	.000	10.38	1	1	0	0	0	0	4.1	6	7	5	1	3	0	0	1	0		24	2.077	0.0	0.00
	2010	0	1	.000	23.14	1	1	0	0	0	0	2.1	5	6	6	1	4	0	4	0	0		16	3.857	15.4	1.00
	Career Total	0	3	.000	17.18	3	2	0	0	0	0	7.1	15	16	14	2	8	0	5	1	0		47	3.136	6.1	0.63

certainly not saying that will continue and plenty more to the equation but didnt hurt my decision..

hasnt had great success vs cards either..

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Year-by-Year:

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	2008	1	1	.500	2.57	2	2	0	0	0	0	14.0	6	4	4	1	10	0	9	1	0		56	1.143	5.8	0.90
	2009	0	0		9.39	2	2	0	0	0	0	7.2	8	8	8	1	4	0	10	1	0		37	1.565	11.7	2.50
	2011	0	2	.000	7.36	3	2	0	0	0	0	11.0	13	10	9	4	5	1	10	0	0		52	1.636	8.2	2.00
	2012	1	1	.500	3.97	2	2	0	0	0	0	11.1	9	6	5	0	10	1	7	1	0		54	1.676	5.6	0.70
	Career Total	2	4	.333	5.32	9	8	0	0	0	0	44.0	36	28	26	6	29	2	36	3	0		199	1.477	7.4	1.24

[You mad bro]

where do u guys find out all this umpire information? TIA

[2daBank]

where do u guys find out all this umpire information? TIA

http://www.baseball-reference.com/

and if you go to cappingthegame they have a thread everyday in the baseball section called "stalking the umps" and those guys do a awesome job, i check that thread out every day..

[You mad bro]

thanks bank

[Redscot]

Take care fading the Halo's tonight, Barksdale been on a 48-20 home bias over last 2 years, for whatever that's worth.

Seattle pen a bit stretched too and traveled back West yesterday with Halo's having a day off.

Not that I am advocating Jerome and the overpriced Angels though.

[EXhoosier10]

Coin, I'm going to try and keep track of Pinny TT leans. Mind if I track in your thread as you seem to keep an eye on these things? Save the trouble of making you come to my thread to check out.

[2daBank]

thanks bank

no problem bro.. ctg used to have a sticky on top w a pdf that had really good shit on the umps as well, not sure if it still there but would imagine it is..

[No coincidences]

something fishy about the det/clev line......pitching mismatch on paper and kluber just got crushed by detroit about a week ago

Yeah, I'm steering clear of that one. CLE can hit Scherzer, and the Detroit bullpen is the Detroit bullpen....

[No coincidences]

Coin, I'm going to try and keep track of Pinny TT leans. Mind if I track in your thread as you seem to keep an eye on these things? Save the trouble of making you come to my thread to check out.

No problem. Some days I track it closely because I have the time -- others, like today, I haven't even taken a look yet.

[No coincidences]

NYM +104 (1U to win 1.04)

[No coincidences]

DET FF -135 (2.7U to win 2)

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CHC FF +0.5 -115 (1.15U to win 1)

[No coincidences]

ATL -191 (3.82U to win 2)

[No coincidences]

ATL/MIN over 8.5 (2.2U to win 2)

[tatddy]

Fortunately I'm not betting right now so I'll save myself $, but I feel like ATL goes down tonight. Nothing logical supports my feel.

[No coincidences]

Fortunately I'm not betting right now so I'll save myself $, but I feel like ATL goes down tonight. Nothing logical supports my feel.

Huddy's been getting lit up like a pinball machine lately.

[No coincidences]

OAK +1.5 -105 (2.1U to win 2)