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  • lakerboy
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    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #1
    how can james beat the warriors?
    Barring an injury I just don't see how this can be done. The cavs are too slow for gsw. They are winning on the fly with a makeshift roster. James is great but I just can't see how he can will this team to a win over the warriors.
  • OckertCR
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 06-22-14
    • 641

    #2
    defense and rebounding
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    • lakerboy
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      • 04-02-09
      • 94379

      #3
      Originally posted by OckertCR
      defense and rebounding

      Both of which gs is dominant at. The warriors have zero weaknesses.
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      • TheMoneyShot
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        • 02-14-07
        • 28672

        #4
        NBA will rig it. Everyone will be on Golden State. That's why Cleveland will win it. Can't anyone see all of these NBA games are put on? I mean... if you know the story... you could make so much cash. No reason why Harden had an off day.... it's just bullsh#$. You're at your own gym... and you come out sloppy? Makes no sense.

        NBA = Entertainment. That's all it is.
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        • TwoWays
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          • 03-24-10
          • 13145

          #5
          It's true. All sports is fixed. Very easy to blow or not blow whistles here and there and complexion of game changes
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          • jjgold
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            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            I doubt it Golden State is just too good
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            • STAX
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              • 11-01-13
              • 3718

              #7
              Originally posted by lakerboy
              Both of which gs is dominant at. The warriors have zero weaknesses.
              While I pretty much agree with GS having no weaknesses, the do have trouble defending physical wing players... the two best being Harden and LeBron. LeBron isnt going to pick and choose when he is aggressive like Harden does. LeBron will be aggressive from start to finish. I think a team that plays hard on both ends for 48 minutes and can minimize the huge runs GS always seems to go on at some point in the game can beat this GS team. Memphis showed the ability to stunt GS's offense for long stretches at points in that series, they just didnt have the offense, especially outside shooting to take full advantage. Cleveland is scrappy inside with Tristan Thompson, he's a beast on the offensive glass. He will do more than hold his own against Draymond Green, and Mozgov will hold his own vrs Bogut. The trouble though, is Cleveland has trouble defending PGs, and Curry is the best of the best. Cleveland can also match Golden State's ability to shoot the 3. No one is as good as Curry, and he is going to get his, but I really believe Shumpert and JR Smith will really shut down Klay Thompson. Shumpert is one of the best 2 guard defenders in the NBA, and JR Smith is the best shooter on the planet when he is hot, his problem is he is as streaky as they come. JR Smith could win a game for Cleveland by himself and that could be the difference. A cool stat, JR Smith holds the NBA record for most games with 8+ 3 pointers made with 14.

              Cleveland's advantage will be LeBron driving to the hole and finishing, going to the line, and kicking for open 3's. Cleveland has experience on their side with LeBron alone. This is a huge factor. I think David Blatt's experience will be a factor as well. Steve Kerr has never coached before this year, while Blatt is a seasoned veteran, albeit not in the NBA.

              The biggest key for the Cavs to win this series is Kyrie's health. Curry is going to put up some mnster lines, even if Kyrie is 100%... however KYRIE MUST, I MEAN MUST offset some of Steph's scoring with some EFFICIENT offense of his own.

              GS has home court, a deeper bench, and a big advantage at PG, Cleveland has a bigger advantage at the SF position and experience on their side. Cavs are already +195 if they face GS. I love that price... I think its a near lock the NBA finals goes 7 games.

              Its gonna be ab epic finals, and we are gonna see some MONSTER stat lines from LeBron and Curry. Gonna be great to watch
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              • jjgold
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                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                will be very very highly watched too

                If James ever one this series he goes passed Mike Jordan

                I would not play Irvin until finals...maybe 100% then??

                Lets not kid ourselves
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                • CDUBB_CW
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-12-14
                  • 1002

                  #9
                  I don't think a first year coach has won a title before, I could be wrong.... this year history will change. Shumpert on Steph and James on Klay or Green will be the difference maker.
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                  • edawg
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-09-11
                    • 2820

                    #10
                    Cavs will win title team of destiny plus best storyline for NBA!
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                    • ROFLcopter
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-16-10
                      • 4446

                      #11
                      Didn't you just say earlier today the Cavs will be champs?

                      What do you think the series line will be?
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                      • Ghenghis Kahn
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                        • 01-02-12
                        • 19734

                        #12
                        i've said this before, san anton was the only team that could've beat golden state. the clips did them a huge favor.
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                        • jjgold
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                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          I think James might guard Curry and give him some trouble just because of his height and strength
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                          • jtoler
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                            • 12-17-13
                            • 30967

                            #14
                            Don't see James guarding Curry. Maybe a couple instances at close of quarters. Cleveland bench is weak behind Moz and Thompson, when they get a couple fouls early it gets dicey, Ezeli's confidence just soared because of last game, Kerr now confident to play him long stretches. Cleveland gonna need a lot of whistles, can JR keep shooting out of this world, prob not at same clip, Curry and Klay can. Kyrie has to get healthy quick, Love is an extra body, the more the better, still don't think it matters, series is in GS hands, if James pull this off he gets a lot of cred from me. Cleveland can defend Hawks, their offense isn't as smooth, its slower and on top of that they miss shots, too many, if they can play D like Memp. did some games and score who knows.
                            Last edited by jtoler; 05-24-15, 07:55 AM.
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                            • lupe
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                              • 09-29-09
                              • 190

                              #15
                              Let's remember Memphis was up 2-1 on Gsw .... You can't run and gun with Gsw like the rockets are doing. Cleveland will slow it down, play decent defense, rebound and not prevent fts break points.

                              Still think Gsw wins, 4-3
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                              • jtoler
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                                • 12-17-13
                                • 30967

                                #16
                                Originally posted by lupe
                                Let's remember Memphis was up 2-1 on Gsw .... You can't run and gun with Gsw like the rockets are doing. Cleveland will slow it down, play decent defense, rebound and not prevent fts break points.

                                Still think Gsw wins, 4-3
                                I thought of that too, in reality Cleveland is a live dog, it seems.
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                                • survive
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                                  • 01-08-11
                                  • 2388

                                  #17
                                  Only way is if gsw lets the finals pressure get to them, like OKC in 2012 with zero finals experience. Otherwise from a matchup standpoint gsw should take it
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                                  • Ratzz
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-07-10
                                    • 8965

                                    #18
                                    it's NOT just Lebron, they ALL play hard, they ALL play defense.

                                    People have difficulty scoring on them, they get frustrated, and then start making bad decisions..

                                    Cavs can do this. Seriously.

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                                    • Stallion
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                                      • 03-21-10
                                      • 3616

                                      #19
                                      GSW is 6.
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                                      • thetrinity
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                                        • 01-25-11
                                        • 22430

                                        #20
                                        going to be one of the highest rated finals ever
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                                        • KalouKalou
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                                          • 01-14-11
                                          • 1848

                                          #21
                                          We have to wait until June 4
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            James has to play Powerball no way you're running up and down the court with Golden State… Right now other than Michael Jordan curry the most unstoppable force we have ever seen in the playoffs
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                                            • smoke a bowl
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-09-09
                                              • 2776

                                              #23
                                              Gonna be tough but a super human effort could do it.
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                                              • dawgs777
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-19-14
                                                • 635

                                                #24
                                                a healthy kyrie and love, the cavs and warriors finals woulduv been epic.

                                                warriors in 6, maybe 5.

                                                golden state warriors will be the nba champs
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                                                • packerd_00
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-22-13
                                                  • 17803

                                                  #25
                                                  Ill take the Warriors in the Final
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    How did they play during year??

                                                    Cleve/GSW??
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                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                      • 48368

                                                      #27
                                                      Kyrie if healthy, Delly and Shumpert will be chasing Curry. JR and Jones will guard Thompson. Cleveland has a much higher IQ than the Rockets who don't ever play defense. I think a lot depends on Green and how Cleveland defends him. More than likely Lebron but they might go small too???
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                                                      • jtoler
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                                                        • 12-17-13
                                                        • 30967

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Ratzz
                                                        it's NOT just Lebron, they ALL play hard, they ALL play defense.

                                                        People have difficulty scoring on them, they get frustrated, and then start making bad decisions..

                                                        Cavs can do this. Seriously.
                                                        Yes.
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                                                        • lakerboy
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                                                          • 04-02-09
                                                          • 94379

                                                          #29
                                                          Kerr is tthe best at in between game adjustments
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                                                          • ace_202
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                                                            • 11-27-13
                                                            • 441

                                                            #30
                                                            I saw this 6 months ago and thought that this was going to be the best commercial for the Cavs if they come into the finals. Just watching it reminds me why i backed the Cavs to win it all at the start of the season.



                                                            Lebron is doing this for more than just the team, he's winning this championship for the city.
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                                                            • Snowball
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                                                              • 11-15-09
                                                              • 30047

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              How did they play during year??

                                                              Cleve/GSW??
                                                              Golden State hosted Cleveland in early January and won, but Lebron did not play.
                                                              This was also before Cleveland turned it around.
                                                              Then, Golden State went to Cleveland in late February with Lebron playing, and lost by 11.
                                                              Lebron roasted them with 42 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 steals.
                                                              Curry was only allowed 18 points.
                                                              Here are the box scores:
                                                              Box score for the Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers NBA game from January 9, 2015 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

                                                              Box score for the Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden State Warriors NBA game from February 26, 2015 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.


                                                              There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Cavs will beat Golden State
                                                              for Championship. Golden State is soft. Cavs will punk them hard.
                                                              Last edited by Snowball; 05-24-15, 12:55 PM.
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                                                              • Nookx
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                                                                • 12-17-07
                                                                • 486

                                                                #32
                                                                Warriors will be huge favorites. One of the best teams in the history of the game. Best offense, best defense. With that said Lebron is the best player ever. If anyone could pull it off it would be lebron. Those of you who think shumpert, smith, mozgov and the other cavs can match up with GS are on the sauce.
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                                                                • packerd_00
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-22-13
                                                                  • 17803

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                                                  Golden State hosted Cleveland in early January and won, but Lebron did not play.
                                                                  This was also before Cleveland turned it around.
                                                                  Then, Golden State went to Cleveland in late February with Lebron playing, and lost by 11.
                                                                  Lebron roasted them with 42 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 steals.
                                                                  Curry was only allowed 18 points.
                                                                  Here are the box scores:
                                                                  Box score for the Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers NBA game from January 9, 2015 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

                                                                  Box score for the Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden State Warriors NBA game from February 26, 2015 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.


                                                                  There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Cavs will beat Golden State
                                                                  for Championship. Golden State is soft. Cavs will punk them hard.
                                                                  Warriors soft,get out of here with that non sense.
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Who would've thought Wayback that this series will get major major ratings


                                                                    Golden State could be one of the best teams ever assembled
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                                                                    • lakerboy
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                                      • 94379

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Even james can't beat these guys. Warriors will have an answer for everything the cavs do. Everything,
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