Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
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don't just post one game. I play on Matchy/Pinny/5D/Betfair and MLB prices are better on Matchbook about 90% of the time.Comment -
St. Louis Cardinals -126 $38
Chicago Cubs +125 $985
$38 bucks...yeah the line is great...it's the amount posted...next line is -130...same as 5DsbrComment -
St Louis Cardinals (Westbrook) at Chicago Cubs (Lopez)Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
Aug 21 8:05 pm St Louis Cardinals
-130$12,366
-131$224
-141$16,920
23Chicago Cubs
+126$3,970
+125$985
+124$8,065
Lines are better than what any other books are offering ATM and liquidity is there.Comment -
not one trade since...almost 45 minutes....for the nationally televised gamesbrComment -
Nothing moves there. Absolutely nothing. Sits for hours and hours and hours.
I have a program that finds arbitrage that operates for all to see on my website - do you have any idea how many times Matchbook pops up? Tons. 2nd only to Betfair.
I have many international users who make arbitrage plays - they all complain that the great odds are usually posted for a few bucks. Nothing worth betting on. Funny part - those odds sit there for hours, and hours and hours.Comment -
Originally posted by the_situation
MB, 5d, and Betfair are all part of my arbitrage program. If you are a $10 better, yes you will find a few bucks at MB.Comment -
I'm NOT and arb. player.Originally posted by todd73nj
I'm NOT a $10 bettor.
I've consistently managed to get better MLB odds at MB all season than I can find anywhere else, including Pinnacle, Greek and Betfair.
When I post offers at both MB and Betfair. MB's get matched far more frequently than BF's do and for larger amounts.Comment -
It's pretty obvious Todd/Thremp and anyone else bashing MB are just bitter that they are no longer able to play there anymore..don't worry guys, maybe someday the USA will change
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Ctrl C / Ctrl VOriginally posted by Hareeba!
Not at all. if I had known their financial situation - I would have been gone long before they booted US players. Just like I did with WSEX, which was my favorite book for years.Originally posted by the_situationIt's pretty obvious Todd/Thremp and anyone else bashing MB are just bitter that they are no longer able to play there anymore..don't worry guys, maybe someday the USA will change
I, along with any other smart players, would be at a top outfit, like Betafir.Comment -
In other words you are again calling me a liar.Originally posted by todd73nj
I don't care about convincing YOU. You have made up your mind and just won't listen to or don't wish to believe the FACTS. You can't play at either so you just DON'T KNOW.
However there are many other reading this forum and this thread who might be interested in the TRUTH.
Once again overnight here I placed equal orders on BF and MB and woke to find $15.74 had been matched at BF but my full $1,160 stake had been taken at MB and a better price was available at MB for my unmatched BF amount (in excess of what is available at Pinnacle and elsewhere).
When it went in-play BF had matched just $883 on that market whereas at MB my bets alone would have accounted for almost $5k matched
SIMPLY NO COMPARISONComment -
Originally posted by Hareeba!In other words you are again calling me a liar.
I don't care about convincing YOU. You have made up your mind and just won't listen to or don't wish to believe the FACTS. You can't play at either so you just DON'T KNOW.
However there are many other reading this forum and this thread who might be interested in the TRUTH.
Once again overnight here I placed equal orders on BF and MB and woke to find $15.74 had been matched at BF but my full $1,160 stake had been taken at MB and a better price was available at MB for my unmatched BF amount (in excess of what is available at Pinnacle and elsewhere).
When it went in-play BF had matched just $883 on that market whereas at MB my bets alone would have accounted for almost $5k matched
SIMPLY NO COMPARISON
you must have gotten hosed on the price if you got matched....
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If so, why didn't it get snapped up at BF?Originally posted by QQPALLADIUMyou must have gotten hosed on the price if you got matched....
(irrelevant to my point but it turned out to be the same odds as the start of the game)Comment -
Betfair charges a lot of commission and is pretty brutal for US Sports with low liquidity and prices worse than Pinny. For Euro Sports, yes it is the best but for US there is no comparison between Matchbook and BF. And also, SBR claims Matchbook is in good standing and well off financially so why would I believe you over them when they have connections in the industry?Originally posted by todd73njComment -
Todd has been calling me a liar for stating this for a few months now. So I guess you must be a liar too (as must Santo for having confirmed the numbers I posted one day).Originally posted by the_situationComment -
Originally posted by Hareeba!
the same sbr who had no clue on the greek....
sbrComment -
utterly no idea what you are on about hereOriginally posted by QQPALLADIUMthe same sbr who had no clue on the greek....
and is there any relevance at all to what I've been posting?Comment -
over 7.5 +116
under 7.5 -136
$150 and $204...
mb is the best for basessbrComment -
stale line idiot!Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
show me where you can get better for the current line of 7Comment -
+220 $70Originally posted by Hareeba!
-248 $149
oak vs nyy
mb has the best lines and liquidity for overnites that has been said here before.
sbrComment -
Yes.. Brutal with 100k+ traded in game on any ESPN ball game. You guys all make so much money, should post up your picks and stand behind what you say. Betfair doesnt have enough posted for you - so you must be betting huge dollar amounts.Originally posted by Hareeba!
Why is it that everyone on this forum makes millions but me? Throw me a bone here!Comment -
Let me know when they are an A, and can document your account in a financial institution.Originally posted by the_situationComment -
Oh, nice change of topic Todd!Originally posted by todd73nj
You know very well that all I've been arguing with you about in this thread is PRE GAME betting. Now you have lost that argument pointlessly, so drop it and move onto in-play betting. NO I'm not going to engage you in that.
You have called me and others liars over this issue and a retraction and apology is overdue.Comment -
Originally posted by Hareeba!
todd is sorry you can't figure out a simple computer request to cut and paste your trades in real time to prove mb's superior liquidity and prices
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Its not a change of topic. But you guys keep talking liquidity is better, lines are better, blah blah. When I talk avg bet size, I use $200. When you you do its $1000. MB doesnt trade the volume you think it does - or the volume necessary for all of you guys to make the money you claim to. Thats my point. Unless you are a 70, maybe 80% winner - which we all know is impossible - think about the volume of pennies all the winners in this thread would need to trade.Originally posted by Hareeba!
But again... Watch the MMers price on Matchbook for the listed baseball games - they just sit and sit.. and no one trades.
But yet.. everyone makes thousands!
Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
todd is sorry you can't figure out a simple computer request to cut and paste your trades in real time to prove mb's superior liquidity and pricesComment -
So how is it that my offers almost always get accepted?Originally posted by todd73nj
And yet at Betfair they rarely do and when they do it tends to be only partial, like the example I posted yesterday.
You continue to call me a liar but this is FACT.
And several others have confirmed what I am saying but it doesn't fit your warped sense of reality so you won't accept it.
It was a change of subject because you started prattling on about in-play betting at BF which is something I've never challenged. In fact if you kept up with my postings elsewhere I've always said BF it the place for in-play betting.
And I don't need to hit 70% or anywhere near it so again you go prattling on about stuff you know nothing about.Comment -
so why doesn't mb post volume totals like bf?...imagine trading on the nyse and you couldn't see the volume....sbrComment -
no idea, but it doesn't change the FACTSOriginally posted by QQPALLADIUM
wish to hell they would as it would reveal Todd to be the liar he is for all to seeComment -
maybe mb should go public like betfair....for the revenue number they can substitute a number for "whatever Hareebitch! says"....sbrComment -
LOL. Facts. What facts?Originally posted by Hareeba!
Ill take this back to a little story from tradesports.. People would exaggerate there position that they bought because it was done in contracts. Like.. StL +10 50.0 +$40.00 or whatever.
They would simply add a "0" to the 10 to make it 100 contracts and a "0" to the profit to make it $400.. and wa-la. When you dont have to post a screen shot - you can type whatever it is you want. But the next morning - when they updated contract amounts - no one could explain why they didnt have the correct #s.
Just like this situation - no one posts screen shots of their info - they TYPE it. And its a good thing there are no volumes listed - because all the millionaires would look like fools.Comment -
Every number I've posted on here has been truthful and accurate.Originally posted by todd73nj
And others have verified them and backed me up.
CEASE CALLING US ALL LIARS.Comment -
post your plays for 2 weeks in real time and prove us wrong....Originally posted by Hareeba!sbrComment -
A lot of them likely aren't his to post.Comment -
What's the point, you and Todd just wouldn't believe me anyway?Originally posted by QQPALLADIUMComment -
Hey Todd73NJ, whats that homepage for arbs that you talk about?Are you a stock market trader? Give the SBR Stock Market Betting Book a try! Right here in the points forum!Comment -
if you posted them before the game started we would...Originally posted by Hareeba!
todd could have one one his employees take a mb screenshot every minute and then we could match up the numbers.sbrComment
