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    rangerb77
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    bets4all, i’m new victim?

    Hi, my name is Giovanni and I am Italian.
    I'm new in this forum I have known this, unfortunately, only a few days ago.
    I'm sorry for my bad English.
    I want to tell my sad story with Bets4All which is the same story that took many by what I read in this forum.
    Unfortunately I have to get their "only" € 1223.28.
    anyone know if one day I may get back this money?
    anyway I made some screenshots of my account that I hope will be useful.
    I greet you in the hope that someone can help me

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    rangerb77
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    I then ask you a question:
    because oddsportal, probabily the best odds comparisons, not bans bets4all?

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    rangerb77
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    I then ask you a question:
    because oddsportal, probabily the best odds comparisons, not bans bets4all?

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    misterbet
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    Ciao giovanni,
    I've been seeing Bets4all for several years, but I've never trusted them, because of its very bad rating. Recently I have read somewhere that they have changed ownership, but I'd never advise it to anyone.
    Regarding oddsportal, consider that a comparison site is not a rating site, its job is not to rate bookmakers.

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    AimingHigh
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    Rangerb77, fill out the complaint form posted in my signature and someone from SBR will help you.

    Hopefully Bets4All's new management really does want to rehabilitate their reputation and you'll get paid. The most recent news story on them suggests they want to pay "compensation" to improve their rating here. BUT Bets4Alll sent that message to SBR in November 2008, and there's been no update to say that those players got paid

    The story says the following:

    2/15/2010 08:02 AM
    BETS4ALL still in business; scam sportsbook continues taking bets
    BETS4ALL (SBR rating F) wrote SBR in November of 2008 inquiring about a rating reevaluation. The F rated sportsbook claimed to be under new ownership and inquired if compensation would eliminate forum postings from scorned players. Five players have outstanding no pay complaints against BETS4ALL with the earliest request made in September of 2008 for a combined €10,201 in funds owed. | BETS4ALL forum discussion

    BETS4ALL:
    To whom it may concern,

    BETS4ALL.com has changed its management a few weeks ago. Since then our main focus lies on restructuring and repositioning. In the course of this repositioning it is also our effort to reassess the legacy issues of the previous management best possible.

    Unfortunately we found some unpleasant forum postings that are in parts even damaging for our business. BETS4ALL.com strives to shed those postings. What kind of compensation would be needed to have your full support on this matter?

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    Chopsticks
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    If you happened to deposit by moneybookers, then talk to them about it. Moneybookers actually promote Bets4all (http://www.moneybookers.com/app/gamb...section=sports), so the least they should do is help you out if you have problems getting your money out. It is doubtful that they will care, but worth a try.

    Why they would even consider allowing bets4all to use their site to advertise is beyond me, but then again it is not the first time that they allow bookies like bets4all to advertise on their site. You would think that they cared about the security of players funds, but they don't. When asked why they allow bookies like bets4all to advertise there they just say that just because they allow a certain bookie or casno to advertise with them, that does not mean that they endorse them or take any responsibility for what may happen to your money.

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    Donadon
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    This is an absolute disgrace what Moneybookers are doing selling their ass to scammers like bets4all and some others along these lines in the past as if they dont earn enough from their business.

    As for bets4all the only chance you got, dude, is to get in contact with local staats police in Austria and lodge a complaint of internet fraud and then let bets4all scumbags know what youre doing and threaten them with legal action. I know this helped one or two guys to get their money back, hope it helps you too

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    rangerb77
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    Quote Originally Posted by AimingHigh View Post
    Rangerb77, fill out the complaint form posted in my signature and someone from SBR will help you.

    Hopefully Bets4All's new management really does want to rehabilitate their reputation and you'll get paid. The most recent news story on them suggests they want to pay "compensation" to improve their rating here. BUT Bets4Alll sent that message to SBR in November 2008, and there's been no update to say that those players got paid

    The story says the following:

    2/15/2010 08:02 AM
    BETS4ALL still in business; scam sportsbook continues taking bets
    BETS4ALL (SBR rating F) wrote SBR in November of 2008 inquiring about a rating reevaluation. The F rated sportsbook claimed to be under new ownership and inquired if compensation would eliminate forum postings from scorned players. Five players have outstanding no pay complaints against BETS4ALL with the earliest request made in September of 2008 for a combined €10,201 in funds owed. | BETS4ALL forum discussion

    BETS4ALL:
    To whom it may concern,

    BETS4ALL.com has changed its management a few weeks ago. Since then our main focus lies on restructuring and repositioning. In the course of this repositioning it is also our effort to reassess the legacy issues of the previous management best possible.

    Unfortunately we found some unpleasant forum postings that are in parts even damaging for our business. BETS4ALL.com strives to shed those postings. What kind of compensation would be needed to have your full support on this matter?

    tanks a lot.
    I hope that there is a misunderstanding and that I may have my money.....

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    juleser
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    Unfortunately i also read the bad feedback too late, i deposited about 700 euros and am waiting on withdrawals of about 1000 euros. i got an email telling me that i should wait 2 - 3 months for my money

    any progress with other people's withdrawals?

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