[captrobey]

Maybe they pay but these people are the slimiest people i have ever dealt with. First the guy Kenn Blatantly lies to me to get me to deposit by guaranteeing me higher limits. Of course after 1 win they limited me and he would not get on the phone after that.

I ended up winning in the casino up to $7000 if they would have not limited me i would have won what i needed to and been able to cash out. Instead i bet aggressively in hopes to hit the rollover and ended up losing it .

Then the Kenn guy ends up calling me months down the road i guess thinking i will not remember him. He already knew i wanted higher limits so he tries to use higher limits again to get me to deposit. This time he is with Uswager365 . So i sent him an e-mail basically saying he is crazy if he thinks i will ever deposit with him again after lying to me and screwing me over.

Then i get an e-mail back from a Jay Sawyer guy saying that i was wrong and Kenn and him Quit because Betmania back-stabbed me and it was not them and He quit and Kenn quit shortly after him because of what they did to me. I knew that was BS because if that were true why would he not call me to let me know all this time. Plus he had my info still with him so he obviously could have contacted me.

Here is the e-mail they sent me back on 1/27 not even a month ago ...

Hi Rob, your wrong about that, I was there that day and he went to bat for you, they played him and they played you!
He got the max bet limit increase approved from all departments, and then they reversed it after the deposit was in!
I quit that day, and Kenn quit shortly after.


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So anyway today i get another phone message . From Kenn again . And guess where he is calling from to get me to deposit. BETMANIA again. The same place he supposedly quit not even a month ago.

I do not care if they pay or not these people are underhanded and blatantly lie to get you to deposit . Will never trust them again. And once again they were exposed from another lie which i already sorta knew but this 100% confirmed it.

[relaaxx]

offshore gambling sometimes seems a lot like the carnival. freak shows-rigged games-fast talking liars------------------ carny's trying to get in your pockets.

[captrobey]

offshore gambling sometimes seems a lot like the carnival. freak shows-rigged games-fast talking liars------------------ carny's trying to get in your pockets.

Never thought of it like that before interesting view. Are they that stupid though to not realize if you lie to someone like this that person will most likely never trust you again. If you stick to your word and do what you say then that person will deposit again. Plus they get bad press on forums so now maybe others will not trust them.

[relaaxx]

take the money and move on to the next town - take the money and change your name and the sportsbook you work at or even worse you own the book and take the money and just open a different book. honesty is not the best policy when you are only looking for fast easy money.

[captrobey]

take the money and move on to the next town - take the money and change your name and the sportsbook you work at or even worse you own the book and take the money and just open a different book. honesty is not the best policy when you are only looking for fast easy money.

Yea definately no honesty there. At least they pay according to people but if they are that dishonest how long before they stiff big winners. If you want to be a good book you need to pay and get good feedback.

[relaaxx]

there are a few good honest books. there are many books that to me seem more like a carnival. i agree the best way to run a long lasting business is to be honest and have great customer service.

[captrobey]

Even after a couple months of telling them to stop calling and close my accounts with them-They STILL call over and over and my accounts are still open when i checked.

[Redondo]

I have deposited thousands at bet phoenix back when an ewallet was around and they are all the same umbrella , like a dumbass i ran a a $100 match casino chip upto $5800, and they have a max cashout out 2K on that, not a bad profit but i don't like max cashouts on bonuses only rollover is fair.

[captrobey]

I have deposited thousands at bet phoenix back when an ewallet was around and they are all the same umbrella , like a dumbass i ran a a $100 match casino chip upto $5800, and they have a max cashout out 2K on that, not a bad profit but i don't like max cashouts on bonuses only rollover is fair.

I had took it up to a little over $7000 but they had reduced the rollover bigtime. So i bet recklessly and lost it.

[Redondo]

I had took it up to a little over $7000 but they had reduced the rollover bigtime. So i bet recklessly and lost it.

i've been in the offshore betting game and bonus taking game for 15 years, this is the first place that had a max cashout on a deposit bonus and it's disgusting. Their telemarketers need training too, they called me saying so i was wondering if you're going to bet the games this weekend? of course i am, now wtf are you offering me!

[captrobey]

i've been in the offshore betting game and bonus taking game for 15 years, this is the first place that had a max cashout on a deposit bonus and it's disgusting. Their telemarketers need training too, they called me saying so i was wondering if you're going to bet the games this weekend? of course i am, now wtf are you offering me!

Yea i have been betting in my early 20s i am 48 now going on 6 . The only other place that calls as much as these guys is Youwager but at least they do not go back on their word. They finally did close my account though hopefully they stop calling me now.