Asianodds and Singbet void bets at their sole discretion

[lonnie55]

@Craig22 Don't think about it. You will never find out (unless you invest thousands and thousands of hours but what for?)

Just use Singbet or don't. I use them almost on a daily basis and I just don't want to miss them. Can't even remember the last bet they voided.

[Craig22]

Yes they have insane Limits for lower leagues. Unfortunetly they will void winning bets after the fact. And they dont have to make sense either, I had a bet voided there where to closing Line was actually higher then what I had bet. They just void winners and claim syndicate betting.

Interesting. They will void if there is a significant move in your direction after bet, or if there is an arb opportunity- that is Pinnacle line moves a lot for example, while Singbet stays put. I've seen them void a couple of bets before the game started, where none of these happened.
Ya, the closing line was crushing me for one of them- makes zero sense.

It would be nice if we could get some info on what criteria is used to confirm "syndicate betting" or what triggers a cancelled wager so it doesn't happen in the future.

[steeldagger]

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[AsianmanSports]

I'm so glad there is a book like Singbet in the market. Beside Pinnacle it's the only book with balls. All other Asian books became pussies when it comes to offering lower level leagues.

Yes they have insane Limits for lower leagues. Unfortunetly they will void winning bets after the fact. And they dont have to make sense either, I had a bet voided there where to closing Line was actually higher then what I had bet. They just void winners and claim syndicate betting.

[AsianmanSports]

but not so rare with Singbet.

This and there is nothing you do ( excpet not bet there ).

[lonnie55]

I'm so glad there is a book like Singbet in the market. Beside Pinnacle it's the only book with balls. All other Asian books became pussies when it comes to offering lower level leagues.

[qsgsg]

I think they are just best avoided, borderline scam book, definite one to never deposit a penny with!

It is indeed borderline scam. The problem is they get away with their shenanigans because bettors continue to use them regardless.

[qsgsg]

You have 0 idea if that is what they do, and I seriously doubt your reasoning is correct. They don't just void any game they are losing money on. In fact, I know pretty much for sure that's not the case at all. I've seen games where the opening money line is 1.9 there for a game (football). It's immediately bet down to 1.4 after a bunch of bets and all other bookies open at +/- 1.4. When the game starts, that team takes the lead after only a few seconds so there's no way they could have a balanced point at this book. No voids at all, even though there is no way they didn't lose any money there.

The percentage of voids is so low that losing money is not the reason. I truely believe they detect some weird betting patters like they claim and only void those games.

What I have mentioned is in addition to games that are voided for legitimate reasons. My above example are for games that they lose significantly more money on, they dont just void because they lost money.

We know also that Singbet voids games that have been Arbed on.

Value bettors in theory shouldn't be that much affected by Singbet if they have the quantity in which I suppose is what lonnie55 does.

[dealer wins]

I think they are just best avoided, borderline scam book, definite one to never deposit a penny with!

[moojoo]

Based on french game they void when they suspect wrong doing. There was 1:0 3rd min,2:0 5th and red card in 6th. They assumed is fixed match even tho it finished 2:1. Based on that example they have analytics team looking for strange moments in game.

[Alfa1234]

I'll give a fictitious example so that you can understand : Arsenal Vs Everton game.

Wager are Placed in the AH, ML, Over/under, BTTS, etc. for this particular match . Sportsbook typically try to balance their book to have a profit no matter what the outcome is.

Let's say at the last moment before kick off a huge bet is placed on Everton to win and Everton does go on to win the game. Assuming that Everton are big underdogs and the odds are really high. The Sportsbook is unable to make a profit on the ML side and not just that, the Vig that they earn from the other market like AH, Over/under, BTTS, etc. that might have turned in a small profit for them gets engulfed by the loss that the huge last minute bet on Everton to win at high odds.

So they have lost big money overall on this Arsenal Vs Everton game. In this scenario, Singbet just voids the whole game and returns all punters their money. They avoid taking a huge loss at the expense of the punter that won, very much free rolling. The reasons Singbet gives all the time are just excuses that doesn't make sense at all.

You have 0 idea if that is what they do, and I seriously doubt your reasoning is correct. They don't just void any game they are losing money on. In fact, I know pretty much for sure that's not the case at all. I've seen games where the opening money line is 1.9 there for a game (football). It's immediately bet down to 1.4 after a bunch of bets and all other bookies open at +/- 1.4. When the game starts, that team takes the lead after only a few seconds so there's no way they could have a balanced point at this book. No voids at all, even though there is no way they didn't lose any money there.

The percentage of voids is so low that losing money is not the reason. I truely believe they detect some weird betting patters like they claim and only void those games.

[qsgsg]

Then how come they void losing bets too?

I'll give a fictitious example so that you can understand : Arsenal Vs Everton game.

Wager are Placed in the AH, ML, Over/under, BTTS, etc. for this particular match . Sportsbook typically try to balance their book to have a profit no matter what the outcome is.

Let's say at the last moment before kick off a huge bet is placed on Everton to win and Everton does go on to win the game. Assuming that Everton are big underdogs and the odds are really high. The Sportsbook is unable to make a profit on the ML side and not just that, the Vig that they earn from the other market like AH, Over/under, BTTS, etc. that might have turned in a small profit for them gets engulfed by the loss that the huge last minute bet on Everton to win at high odds.

So they have lost big money overall on this Arsenal Vs Everton game. In this scenario, Singbet just voids the whole game and returns all punters their money. They avoid taking a huge loss at the expense of the punter that won, very much free rolling. The reasons Singbet gives all the time are just excuses that doesn't make sense at all.

[craftbrewer]

AsianConnect provide only 40% limit for Singbet accounts. Are limits the same with other agents or may be there is an agent with higher limits for Singbet account?

[Vyasports]

Singbet need to calculate which games they did not manage to balance. Those matches that made the most loss they void.

Then how come they void losing bets too?

[Alfa1234]

If I don't follow any tipsters and don't sell picks by myself but bet on opening lines on small markets like Russian soccer premier league (is it a small market?) and odds drop very much and closing line is much worse than opening line in these cases, should I expect to have 3-4 % of my bets to be voided by Singbet?

If you are that worried, you will only stress each time a bet takes a few hours to get graded and you'll be worrying every time you place a bet there. Don't use them if you are not emotionally ready for it, it's not worth stressing over IMHO.

[qsgsg]

Never ever 3-4%, you want to tell me that they void one in 25-33 bets?! This would be a ridiculous high number...

@craftbrewer: it's actually 50/50 in my case (2 won, 2 lost) if I don't count the matches that have been voided for other reasons like wrongly displayed teams or abnormal playing time like 3x45 in soccer friendlies

Of all Asian books Singbet takes the longest time to grade a bet, they always need hours after a match has been finished

Singbet need to calculate which games they did not manage to balance. Those matches that made the most loss they void.

[lonnie55]

If I don't follow any tipsters and don't sell picks by myself but bet on opening lines on small markets like Russian soccer premier league (is it a small market?) and odds drop very much and closing line is much worse than opening line in these cases, should I expect to have 3-4 % of my bets to be voided by Singbet?

No, because that's how I use Singbet all the time

Russian Premier League is a big market BTW

[craftbrewer]

If I don't follow any tipsters and don't sell picks by myself but bet on opening lines on small markets like Russian soccer premier league (is it a small market?) and odds drop very much and closing line is much worse than opening line in these cases, should I expect to have 3-4 % of my bets to be voided by Singbet?

[Motorhead11]

No, I don't follow any tipsters

Ok, then your 1% void makes sense. Percentage is much bigger when you follow services though.

[lonnie55]

Have you ever followed PGA or famous blogabet/tipstertube tipsters via singbet? 3-4% percentage of void at least. Would even say percentage is even bigger tbh.

No, I don't follow any tipsters

[Motorhead11]

Never ever 3-4%, you want to tell me that they void one in 25-33 bets?! This would be a ridiculous high number...

@craftbrewer: it's actually 50/50 in my case (2 won, 2 lost) if I don't count the matches that have been voided for other reasons like wrongly displayed teams or abnormal playing time like 3x45 in soccer friendlies

Of all Asian books Singbet takes the longest time to grade a bet, they always need hours after a match has been finished

Have you ever followed PGA or famous blogabet/tipstertube tipsters via singbet? 3-4% percentage of void at least. Would even say percentage is even bigger tbh.

[Vyasports]

Of all Asian books Singbet takes the longest time to grade a bet, they always need hours after a match has been finished

Yes and you can say that for customer support too...

[lonnie55]

I would say around 3-4% of games are getting voided

Never ever 3-4%, you want to tell me that they void one in 25-33 bets?! This would be a ridiculous high number...

@craftbrewer: it's actually 50/50 in my case (2 won, 2 lost) if I don't count the matches that have been voided for other reasons like wrongly displayed teams or abnormal playing time like 3x45 in soccer friendlies

Of all Asian books Singbet takes the longest time to grade a bet, they always need hours after a match has been finished

[KittiP]

Been playing with singbet via asianodds, haven't got any void bets in a year, my opinion they then to have the best price quite often, leaving them exposed to arbitrage and pros.

I have never used them, but it sounds absolutely crazy.

They offer good odds, but if someone takes the good odds, then they can just void the bets, if it looks like the bets will win and use the excuse that the customer is arbing.

I get that some people will be arbing, but so what? Don't offer those prices in that case, if you don't want to get caught out by arbers.

People who have half a brain would look through all of the bookies that they have money in or even know about before placing a bet and bet it at the firm with the best odds.

That doesn't necessarily mean that they are arbing, it just means that they are using their brain.

Its the same as if I want to buy a phone, computer for example, I would be a nutcase to buy the most expensive one, when I could get the exact same computer for a better price from another shop. It doesn't mean that I'm doing anything wrong, it just means that I used my brain.


Every time I read posts on this forum its shocking, I don't see how companies can operate like this. All I see is them stealing customers funds, which they can only do because we put trust in them to hold our money honestly.

It's crazy how they can even justify doing this to themselves.

[craftbrewer]

Do they void bets immediately after game is finished or can they even void bets many hours after game is finished?

[craftbrewer]

below 1%

Have you had your lost bets voided? If you have, what is the % of lost bets voided?

[Motorhead11]

Does anyone have personal stats what % of bets are voided by Singbet?

However, if you are following other tipsters bets whereas many bettors placing bets simultanusely etc, your chances of getting void are bigger.

Also if you bet on their opening lines on small/exotic leagues, your chances of getting void are even bigger especially if odds move on your favor till kick off. Exotic leagues in general got higher chances of getting voided than mainstream.

I would say around 3-4% of games are getting voided, however, most of my bets fit in the second category i described above. For normal bets, percentage is minimal, it is still a possibility though.

[lonnie55]

below 1%

[craftbrewer]

Does anyone have personal stats what % of bets are voided by Singbet?

[Vyasports]

they do not void all your bets that i can agree on. Im still trying to figure out how they calculate which bet to void ... surely it must have something to do with profits and their weird odds for certain low level league matches... but i know a lot of players are in profits (even tho some of their bets have been voided, be it winning/losing).
OP claimed to have been playing for 15 years? is this your first time at singbet?

[Ruifgalmeida]

Been playing with singbet via asianodds, haven't got any void bets in a year, my opinion they then to have the best price quite often, leaving them exposed to arbitrage and pros.

[Alfa1234]

I like Singbet

Seconded. They very, rarely void bets and as I've shown in a different thread, they also void losing bets but you never hear any complaints about those.

[lonnie55]

I like Singbet

[qsgsg]

Singbet is a chance bookie. They void all types of bets for the match when it is a big nett loss for them for that particular game.

[moojoo]

Your bet is VOID anyway,result was 2:1.