ACE 84 SPORTSBOOK refuses to payout $11,000

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  • bkrxx2013
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-25-18
    • 7

    #1
    ACE 84 SPORTSBOOK refuses to payout $11,000
    ACE 84 sportsbook is player/agent sportsbook. the sportsbook refuses to make the agent payout the $11,000 he owes me. as soon as i went up $11,000 the agent changed my account password and refused to pay me. which contradicts Ace 84 sportsbook's own rules and policies. "Any player's agent found to be participating in fraudulent activity (i.e. not paying players, deleted winning wagers, etc.), unfair practice or any other negative dealings which are not consistent with our policies, will result in an internal investigation."

    ACE 84 has done nothing and has blocked me from contacting them.
  • milwaukee mike
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    • 08-22-07
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    #2
    ugh sorry to hear

    when dealing with places like that, you have 2 possible ways of being screwed over
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    • milwaukee mike
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      • 08-22-07
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      #3
      We provide player support and wagering services on behalf of our agent customers. We do not handle deposits or payouts on behalf of any agent, nor do we hold, nor are we the benefactor, nor are we the guarantor of any monies related to wagers.
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      • milwaukee mike
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        • 08-22-07
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        #4
        meaning, you got robbed by an agent, so there's probably nothing sbr or anyone can do other than some vigilante justice on your part
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        • bkrxx2013
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          • 12-25-18
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          #5
          "Any player's agent found to be participating in fraudulent activity (i.e. not paying players, deleted winning wagers, etc.), unfair practice or any other negative dealings which are not consistent with our policies, will result in an internal investigation."

          THIS IS ALSO ON THEIR SITE. no investigation was done and they still allow this guy to use their site
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          • milwaukee mike
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            • 08-22-07
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            #6
            Originally posted by bkrxx2013
            "Any player's agent found to be participating in fraudulent activity (i.e. not paying players, deleted winning wagers, etc.), unfair practice or any other negative dealings which are not consistent with our policies, will result in an internal investigation."

            THIS IS ALSO ON THEIR SITE. no investigation was done and they still allow this guy to use their site
            how do you know whether or not they did an investigation?

            they could've easily asked him, and then he says "i don't owe him anything he made that up" and you're screwed anyway. just like anywhere else, when i was selling on ebay people would keep packages saying they never received them and ebay sided with the liars 100%
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            • bkrxx2013
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              • 12-25-18
              • 7

              #7
              Maybe they did maybe they didn't. but they have records of my account and wagers. they know he owes me. Anyway i just wanted to put it out there that these bookies/agents use ACE 84 sportsbook and want to be paid when you lose but as soon as you win, all they have to do is change your password, not pay you and ACE 84 allows this shit to happen and will still let these shady agents/bookies to use their site.
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              • milwaukee mike
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                • 08-22-07
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                #8
                Originally posted by bkrxx2013
                Maybe they did maybe they didn't. but they have records of my account and wagers. they know he owes me. Anyway i just wanted to put it out there that these bookies/agents use ACE 84 sportsbook and want to be paid when you lose but as soon as you win, all they have to do is change your password, not pay you and ACE 84 allows this shit to happen and will still let these shady agents/bookies to use their site.
                it's definitely good that you are sharing, and sucks that you got stiffed

                there's a special place in hell for that agent, and hopefully he gets there sooner rather than later, so he can stop making others' lives miserable
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                • littlekona
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-19-15
                  • 5242

                  #9
                  what is this a pay per head site that locals use?

                  regardless it states in terms
                  Terms of Use & Policies top

                  We are not responsible for agent/player disputes, fraudulent activity, lack of payment, or any other aspect of the agent/player relationship. we provide a service to both players and agents with no financial responsibility to either.
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                  • bkrxx2013
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 12-25-18
                    • 7

                    #10
                    i just wanted to put it out there that these bookies/agents use ACE 84 sportsbook and want to be paid when you lose but as soon as you win, all they have to do is change your password, not pay you and ACE 84 allows this shit to happen and will still let these shady agents/bookies to use their site.

                    AT MINIMUM THEY SHOULD NOT ALLOW THIS AGENT/BOOKIE TO USE THEIR SITE ANY LONGER.
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                    • littlekona
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-19-15
                      • 5242

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bkrxx2013
                      i just wanted to put it out there that these bookies/agents use ACE 84 sportsbook and want to be paid when you lose but as soon as you win, all they have to do is change your password, not pay you and ACE 84 allows this shit to happen and will still let these shady agents/bookies to use their site.

                      AT MINIMUM THEY SHOULD NOT ALLOW THIS AGENT/BOOKIE TO USE THEIR SITE ANY LONGER.
                      it's a dirtball local not the site they use...i have locals in town that use sites similar and settle every week with a $200 positive negative balance...Just choose a better local guy plenty around esp at local poker games or racetrack OTB's but i prefer offshore
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                      • milwaukee mike
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                        • 08-22-07
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by littlekona
                        it's a dirtball local not the site they use...i have locals in town that use sites similar and settle every week with a $200 positive negative balance...Just choose a better local guy plenty around esp at local poker games or racetrack OTB's but i prefer offshore
                        the locals around here are horrible thieves/slow payers... lose big and they need it NOW, win big and they will use every excuse in the book, probably the same everywhere
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                        • littlekona
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                          • 11-19-15
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                          the locals around here are horrible thieves/slow payers... lose big and they need it NOW, win big and they will use every excuse in the book, probably the same everywhere
                          locals in my area are pro's they run big poker games too pay big amounts out too...Funny I see so many regular guys that play poker or OTB's disappear cause they get stuck and cant pay the books or shark....I tell my local to cap me at $200 a week just to be safe as its just to easy to get stuck on credit
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                          • milwaukee mike
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                            • 08-22-07
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by littlekona
                            locals in my area are pro's they run big poker games too pay big amounts out too...Funny I see so many regular guys that play poker or OTB's disappear cause they get stuck and cant pay the books or shark....I tell my local to cap me at $200 a week just to be safe as its just to easy to get stuck on credit
                            that's a blessing

                            stuff sucks around here, i was in a big omaha game that got broken up by the cops about 10 years ago where they seized probably 20k in cash, even though we were playing for chips

                            all it takes is one jackass to ruin local poker games/betting... hopefully everything gets legalized eventually
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                            • bkrxx2013
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 12-25-18
                              • 7

                              #15
                              Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                              that's a blessing

                              stuff sucks around here, i was in a big omaha game that got broken up by the cops about 10 years ago where they seized probably 20k in cash, even though we were playing for chips

                              all it takes is one jackass to ruin local poker games/betting... hopefully everything gets legalized eventually
                              Yeah really sucks that this guy stiffed me $11,000. But i also blame the sportsbook because they have records that he owes me and they still allow him to use the site.
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                              • bkrxx2013
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                                • 12-25-18
                                • 7

                                #16
                                whether it's an offshore sportsbook that pays it's players directly or a pay per person sportsbook that agents/bookies pay the players, its still a sportsbook that's involved in non payment to a player/bettor. We need to get the word out for players/bettors not to use ACE 84 SPORTSBOOK.
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                                • littlekona
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5242

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bkrxx2013
                                  whether it's an offshore sportsbook that pays it's players directly or a pay per person sportsbook that agents/bookies pay the players, its still a sportsbook that's involved in non payment to a player/bettor. We need to get the word out for players/bettors not to use ACE 84 SPORTSBOOK.
                                  Ace 84 is just the random pay per head site your local uses..ace 84 doesn't take action terms are pretty clear..

                                  Terms of Use & Policies top

                                  We are not responsible for agent/player disputes, fraudulent activity, lack of payment, or any other aspect of the agent/player relationship. we provide a service to both players and agents with no financial responsibility to either
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                                  • jtoler
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                                    • 12-17-13
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                                    #18
                                    horrible, sometimes may be difficult enough having to rely on book to pay but to go through a middle man is just too many hands
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                                    • newton0038
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                                      • 03-07-07
                                      • 2387

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bkrxx2013
                                      Yeah really sucks that this guy stiffed me $11,000. But i also blame the sportsbook because they have records that he owes me and they still allow him to use the site.
                                      Put the word out on the street. I guarantee he has someone he reports to and a that someone doesnt want any word of a "no pay" out there. Bad for business as no pay = no business.
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                                      • milwaukee mike
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                                        • 08-22-07
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by newton0038
                                        Put the word out on the street. I guarantee he has someone he reports to and a that someone doesnt want any word of a "no pay" out there. Bad for business as no pay = no business.
                                        i would do less talking and more harassing.

                                        if you know the guy, then contact everyone related to him, if he has a real job then disrupt it, etc etc

                                        if you're not willing to go beat the money out of him, then at least mess with his life
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                                        • bkrxx2013
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 12-25-18
                                          • 7

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by newton0038
                                          Put the word out on the street. I guarantee he has someone he reports to and a that someone doesnt want any word of a "no pay" out there. Bad for business as no pay = no business.
                                          I'm hoping the sportsbook will no longer let him use the site or make him pay me. That would disrupt his business.
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                                          • Optional
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                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 61457

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bkrxx2013
                                            I'm hoping the sportsbook will no longer let him use the site or make him pay me. That would disrupt his business.
                                            For about 30 minutes until he setup a new PPH account at another random site and told his players to move there.

                                            If you want a reliable sportsbook check out the SBR Rated List.
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