WSEX is a joke now

**Frank** · 02-19-09, 09:36 PM

You are not the only one.

They not only do it on the 2nd pop, but sometimes before you bet it once.

For example most books have +7, they move to +7.5, I try to take +7.5

Approval for this wager has been denied.
Approval for this wager has been denied.
Approval for this wager has been denied.

Then the line just sits there and doesn't move for an hour.

Try 1 hour later

Approval for this wager has been denied.
Approval for this wager has been denied.
Approval for this wager has been denied.

They are so afraid to take action anymore.

I am starting to wonder......one minute delays........drastic limit cuts......refusal of wagers at stale times........long payments delays.

Is it possible they may not be as financially solid as they once were?

**WSEX** · 02-19-09, 10:18 PM

tomcowley,

Steve will contact you in the morning. The reason the desk kept denying you was because you were betting a teaser and the subsequent bet was would cumulatively put you over our teaser limit.

Frank,

Please feel free to PM me your user name and I will be happy to have Steve contact you as well.

WSEX

**ZBOIZ** · 02-19-09, 10:19 PM

go to 5dimes guys!

no problem like this pure satisfaction

**tomcowley** · 02-19-09, 10:43 PM

I was absolutely not betting a teaser. I was buying half a point on ONE CBB side. I was not betting more on that type of wager than I'd bet multiple times in the past.. the latest being the night before. You don't have a hard-coded limit on repopping any straight bets that I'm aware of. Any random account that isn't on manual approval could dump in an arbitrarily large amount of money until you moved the line (and after you moved the line, if he wanted that number too). The limit on CBB sides is 2500. I was only trying to bet 1000 twice buying .5, which isn't even a "max bet" combined.

You have a line posted. Take action on it or move it. If you don't want dime chunks coming in, circle it or lower limits. If you don't want people buying points (or those points), don't offer to sell them. I don't care if you reject a wager and then move your line to more of a consensus number- it's lame for me, but I can understand why you do it. Offering a bet and then spending 25 mintes refusing to take any action on it or to change the number is just chickenshit.

**WSEX** · 02-19-09, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by tomcowley

I was absolutely not betting a teaser. I was not betting more on that type of wager than I'd bet multiple times in the past.. the latest being the night before.

I'm sorry. I guess I have you confused with someone else. Please PM me your user name and Steve will contact you in the morning.

WSEX

**RonPaul2008** · 02-19-09, 11:48 PM

That's nothing. Try having $100 limit and a long ass delay and getting most plays denied for the ridiculous limit even when the line has not yet moved (then they use the information to adjust their lines).

Originally posted by tomcowley

Trying to bet a CBB spread tonight, and they take the first bet. Try to pop it again 5 minutes later, wager denied. Ok, fine, they forgot to move the line after my first bet and they're moving it now. Nope. I try about 15 times over the next 30 minutes, declined every time. Do they move the line? No. The line hasn't changed for an hour, and they refuse to take a bet on it (or move it). That's just pathetic.

Edit: Holy shit! I guess they fell asleep, because they finally approved it on the 15th try.

**Peep** · 02-20-09, 12:12 AM

Doesn't sound good, thanks for the posts. I just tapped out there, looks like not much reason to reload.

I like that they don't time out though.

**Frank** · 02-20-09, 12:15 AM

Frank,

Please feel free to PM me your user name and I will be happy to have Steve contact you as well.

WSEX[/quote]

Sent

**tomcowley** · 02-20-09, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by Peep

Doesn't sound good, thanks for the posts. I just tapped out there, looks like not much reason to reload.

I like that they don't time out though.

My post title isn't really fair for most users- most people aren't going to get on a delay and want to repop a line. They're a useful book for most US-sport players because they have a good number a decent amount of the time, plus they have live betting, which is just fun if nothing else, and they have two-way futures lines. There are plenty of reasons to put money there.

When I bet a slightly off-market line there (the CBB in question was off-market by just under half a point), and they deny it, they'd always moved the number (and usually moved the number when they accepted it too). Before tonight, I hadn't run into Frank's experience where they just refused action and wouldn't move the number.

**Peep** · 02-20-09, 02:22 AM

Thanks for the clarification Tom.

I didn't mind tapping out there, had money in for a week, didn't really see any numbers I like, so I just polish middled my way out tonight, and don't feel bad about it.

**durito** · 02-20-09, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

go to 5dimes guys!

no problem like this pure satisfaction

As for WSEX, the place has really changed in the last year.

**fiveteamer** · 02-20-09, 10:09 AM

ZBOIZ is does not matter where you bet.

**Mudcat** · 02-20-09, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by tomcowley

My post title isn't really fair for most users- most people aren't going to get on a delay and want to repop a line. They're a useful book for most US-sport players because they have a good number a decent amount of the time, plus they have live betting, which is just fun if nothing else, and they have two-way futures lines. There are plenty of reasons to put money there.

I'm glad you added this. It sums up what I was thinking as I read the first post. The problem situation you described has never affected me in my life and I doubt it ever will. And as you say, that would go for a lot of players.

**tomcowley** · 02-20-09, 05:39 PM

Steve contacted me today, and I'll be the first to say that his response to the situation was better than I could have imagined. A+ repsonse.

**bigboydan** · 02-20-09, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by tomcowley

Steve contacted me today, and I'll be the first to say that his response to the situation was better than I could have imagined. A+ repsonse.

Care to share a few of the highlights of the conversation if it's not highly classified info, sir?

**Casi** · 02-20-09, 08:24 PM

Compared to those new clown books, Wsex is still an excellent out...

**durito** · 02-20-09, 08:44 PM

I see there is no longer a WSEX banner ad here. That's a first.

**eachwayplease** · 02-20-09, 09:26 PM

For the record I would like to say that I think at long last I've now been paid out in full by WSEX. Whilst I stand by all my many criticisms, I do wish this book success in the future and for the sake of fellow punters, hope it is able to resolve its payment issues and brush up CS.

**Peep** · 02-20-09, 10:35 PM

Glad to hear it eachwayplease. About time they paid you!

**tomcowley** · 02-20-09, 10:44 PM

WSEX can post the details if they want to. I don't mind them becoming public, but I don't think it's my place to make them so.

**evo34** · 02-20-09, 11:06 PM

WSEX owes an explanation to all its customers for what has been going on for the past year. "Steve" should come out and post a public explanation in this forum. Until then, WSEX's fair grade is about a D+ -- regardless of the current SBR grade.

**tomcowley** · 02-20-09, 11:11 PM

No way. At worst they deserve some sort of bodogging for check times. Look at the garbage that's rated D+ and even C+.

**Frank** · 02-20-09, 11:14 PM

I was also contacted via email today by Steve and am also satisfied with what he did for me.

Thanks poster "WSEX"

**eachwayplease** · 02-21-09, 07:55 AM

Part of the problem by the way was the failure of many emails WSEX claimed to have sent me to arrive. I have three email addresses, globalnet, gmail and hotmail. Success rate of emails from WSEX to the first two was very low.

Anyway thanks to Bill Dozer and "WSEX" for intervening.

**rookie** · 02-21-09, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by durito

I see there is no longer a WSEX banner ad here. That's a first.

And they have moved to page 3 on sbrlines.

**Peep** · 02-21-09, 11:13 AM

Some spectulation they got caught with funds in the Stanford bank freezing.

KC · 02-21-09, 11:28 AM

I am tired of the wsex bashing on here, still a top 5 book.

**durito** · 02-21-09, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Peep

Some spectulation they got caught with funds in the Stanford bank freezing.

Given their location this would not surprise me at all.

This of course, should not have had any effect on their months long slow pays recently since it happened last week.

**Peep** · 02-21-09, 01:17 PM

I was thinking more along the lines that they were using Stanford to do some of their processing. If they were "slow paying" other processors.

Do banks "slow pay" lol? I imagine some do.

**durito** · 02-21-09, 01:51 PM

Colombian banks and offshore sportsbooks are remarkably similar in their business practices. They like to hold your money hostage.

**John Dough** · 02-21-09, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by Peep

Some spectulation they got caught with funds in the Stanford bank freezing.

Could you elaborate on this story please or post a link? Thanks.

**Peep** · 02-21-09, 06:32 PM

One of the CR book types mentioned it at OGD. Don't think the sillies here like links to other sites, why all their customers might fly the coop! Willie erased a link to the Pinnacle bet cancellations, so I still haven't read the whole story there.

**WSEX** · 02-21-09, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Peep

Some spectulation they got caught with funds in the Stanford bank freezing.

The key word there is "Speculation." I can say unequivocally that WSEX did not have any exposure to Stanford's banks and never has.

We do apologize for the recent processing issues and are always working to improve our methods in this hostile environment.

WSEX

**DIF** · 02-25-09, 06:40 PM

Unfortently. I really miss the real WSEX. The book I loved for many years. Please wsex tell me if your neteller-processing still is not good?