Real Madrid vs Barcelona CL Semis Thread

[latinrus]

No I agree Barcelona didn't do anything until after the red card. The difference though is Barcelona wasn't the home team here. So they were just trying to make a draw today so that they could go home and finish off madrid. Madrid was the team that was supposed to put forth the offensive effort and try to get the win since they were the home team. Any coach who leaves a player like kaka on the bench deserves to lose.

Hm Kaka He still owns Madrid a lot cause he hasn't played with us and I think he'll go on summer!

But we still coud have put Benzema, Higuain, Ozil, DI Maria, Ronaldo! Or ok even Kaka!

Lass was useless.

Mou did a mistake and I think he knows it! But I think there's no team that can play Barca's game! I just thing Mou was SO defensive! He could have done the same like at Copa del Rey first half, defensive style but with good counter!

About the cards I just think the ref showed 2 different way to make decisions IMO! All the theather of Barca never saw a yellow not today and not last year against inter even for a theater of busquets last year Motta was sent off! Mascherano did a tackle almost like pepe's and he get a yellow! Those are things that pissed people! I accept pepe can lose the head but please take same decision! And here I could be wrong! But I still don't know why UEFA can do such things!
Before the game Barca said that they didn't wanted a Portuguese ref on this game! Ok understand! But then they put a Messi fan that has said that! Not correct IMO!

[TurkzZ]

wasn't the procession like 70% in Barcelona's favor prior to the red, Real were playing way too negative, after the cup win they should of carried the momentum and pressed Barcelona, but they made it easy and sat off.

Now its time for jose's conspiracy's

[FindTheLock]

haha it doesn't matter if you agree with me or not. The bottom line is Madrid didn't do enough to earn a victory today. I may be a biased observer and fan of Barcelona, but I wouldn't complain about losing if Messi sat on the bench in a CL must win game. Kaka played in that 6-2 blowout the other day didn't he? I don't understand how you don't play him in a must win game. He's one of the best Brazilians in the game today.

[TurkzZ]

i think Puyol made a massive diff in stopping Madrids attacks which may of been the reason real had trouble countering, while Pepe's tackle was never a red, if you play a hard tackling negative game, i feel you run the risk of picking up cards

[TurkzZ]

Kaka should of started over ozil, that kid disappears in the big games (Uefa final, world cup v spain, and here again...)

[Supamanu]

With all the love Mou gets on here i was very underimpressed by his tactics today, i don't think he gave madrid much of a chance to win in a must win home game. He presser sounds like a sore loser and he needs to own up to his defensive approach to a home game.

[FindTheLock]

I agree ozil is a great player, he was critical in Germany's win over england. In the big game against spain everyone disappears. Spain is the best team in the world for a reason. They have defense and offense so It is hard to blame ozil for not producing against Spain.

[latinrus]

wasn't the procession like 70% in Barcelona's favor prior to the red, Real were playing way too negative, after the cup win they should of carried the momentum and pressed Barcelona, but they made it easy and sat off.

Now its time for jose's conspiracy's

I know but in any case that was Mou game! Even with 80% if u want Barca was not going anywhere!

haha it doesn't matter if you agree with me or not. The bottom line is Madrid didn't do enough to earn a victory today. I may be a biased observer and fan of Barcelona, but I wouldn't complain about losing if Messi sat on the bench in a CL must win game. Kaka played in that 6-2 blowout the other day didn't he? I don't understand how you don't play him in a must win game. He's one of the best Brazilians in the game today.

I'm biassed also! I'm a Madrid fan

About Kaka I still have doubts! If u watch Valencia they were crap on defense! 90 minutes against Barca is not the same! But Agree that he could have been a way to prove!

i think Puyol made a massive diff in stopping Madrids attacks which may of been the reason real had trouble countering, while Pepe's tackle was never a red, if you play a hard tackling negative game, i feel you run the risk of picking up cards

Puyol is the ONLY Barca player that has my respect!

Kaka should of started over ozil, that kid disappears in the big games (Uefa final, world cup v spain, and here again...)

People hits to hard ozil when he has this kind of games!

U same said Barca has 70% of the ball! So what the hell do u want of Ozil?? He's still young!
Ozil is not a player that can be bright on this games. And not with the stupid Lass on the back making him come down!

Today he got 2-3 balls and 3 Barca players around! Who will he pass the ball? Noone around!
The megadefensive game of Mou killed the skills of Ozil!

If Mou would have done something like last week first half Copa del rey with a good defense but ahving good counter u will notice Ozil! But not today!

[The Special One]

dont blame Mourinho, blame the stupid organization in Real... they have fukin pathetic management and are EXACTLY like Man City, and so they will never succeed like this.

[FindTheLock]

I know when my teams lose I get upset too! I like you I am not trying to argue with you. I am just stating that the coach could have tried other options instead of sticking to his Italian style tactics that were going to lead to a 0-0 draw heading on the road where madrid lost 5-0 already this season.

[SiMON2g]

How about you blame the player who got sent off if anything? Surely you would realize the importance of this game, and don't give me this bullshit about getting caught up in the game, because any player who goes in at pace with raised stud's is completely wreckless and shouldn't have even been considered for a starting spot.

[latinrus]

dont blame Mourinho, blame the stupid organization in Real... they have fukin pathetic management and are EXACTLY like Man City, and so they will never succeed like this.

C'mom TSO!

Here Mou is the person to BLAME!

He bring some guys he wanted, he asked for strikers and today he had 3 on the bench!

And I'm telling u I want this guy to stay here! But today made a mistake! He just doesn't use the players he doesn't like or he doesn't trust still!

ANd don't compare with City at least this year!

We bring Ozil, DI Maria, Khedira, we have Marcelo, Higuain and some other youngs!

While City has been doing sh*t this year!

[TurkzZ]

i thick we should also mention carvalho's absence, this guy is one of the best defenders around and he knows how to stop messi,

but i gota agree with findthelock, Jose is due some criticism here, they played a game which in all honesty, resembled Shalke last night, they floated around the middle not knowing weather to attack or sit back. This is Real Madrid, at the legendary Bernabea, 80 thousand supporters, you must be able to push Barce and apply pressure, like they did in the 1st half of copa game.

[latinrus]

i thick we should also mention carvalho's absence, this guy is one of the best defenders around and he knows how to stop messi,

but i gota agree with findthelock, Jose is due some criticism here, they played a game which in all honesty, resembled Shalke last night, they floated around the middle not knowing weather to attack or sit back. This is Real Madrid, at the legendary Bernabea, 80 thousand supporters, you must be able to push Barce and apply pressure, like they did in the 1st half of copa game.

agree!

Damn Carvalho! Great defender in fact! He is like brain of our defense, maybe like Puyol for Barca right now!

Ramos can be such a crap sometimes and Albiol is not that good!

If Carvalho is in he can play with, Ramos, Garay or Albiol and he'll make those guys to concentrate!

[TurkzZ]

yh these players can be as important as Ronaldo and co, but because there defenders they dont get as much hype (as a defender my self i share there pain lol), take a look at Barce without Puyol, they look flimsy and uncertain in defence.

still it be wise to remember it is only Jose's first season, Madrid will be a better side next season

[The Special One]

I know when my teams lose I get upset too! I like you I am not trying to argue with you. I am just stating that the coach could have tried other options instead of sticking to his Italian style tactics that were going to lead to a 0-0 draw heading on the road where madrid lost 5-0 already this season.

ok couple of things... first of all, im also not trying to argue with you (dont get wrong idea)...

- i'm not upset because I dont like Real (not my team) and made good money from their loss, so im actually VERY happy..
- there are basically no other options he could have tried... for a stupid, rushed team like Real, changing ANYTHING (even slightest formation change) can absolutely dismantle the team... I know his strategy failed, but if they continued with 11 vs 10 (not Pepe being fukin stupid), they would have won - and if he tried anything else, deviating from the common strategy even one bit, they would have been destroyed 11 vs 11.

[FindTheLock]

ok couple of things... first of all, im also not trying to argue with you (dont get wrong idea)...

- i'm not upset because I dont like Real (not my team) and made good money from their loss, so im actually VERY happy..
- there are basically no other options he could have tried... for a stupid, rushed team like Real, changing ANYTHING (even slightest formation change) can absolutely dismantle the team... I know his strategy failed, but if they continued with 11 vs 10 (not Pepe being fukin stupid), they would have won - and if he tried anything else, deviating from the common strategy even one bit, they would have been destroyed 11 vs 11.

maybe. I prefer not to speculate on what would've or could've happened. I just know what he was trying wasn't working. I have other teams that I cheer for that have bad coaches. So I am used to seeing coaches sticking with plan A even when it is failing hopelessly. I am not saying Jose is a bad coach, but in this instance I believe he had other options that he did not even give a chance. How many times do you see a player come in off the bench and provide a miracle spark for his team? In every sport in big games there has always been the guy you would least expect that get's it done under the big spotlight. Maybe it would've worked and maybe it wouldn't, but what he was doing wasn't getting the job done, and I think it would be at least worth a shot to give a player of Kaka's skill level a chance to create a pass or a shot that might not be possible with him on the bench.

[Soon2BRich]

no doubt madrid should have attacked more. they had busquets playing in centre back and puyol at left back!!! busquets is not a centre back and although puyol is great i would of liked to have seen di maria or ronaldo run at puyol because puyols lacks pace. And also what happened to benzema?? i dont watch la liga regularly but a while back wasnt he scoring for fun?

anyway, games over now and the ties over as well, madrid might as well go all out attacking against barca at the nou camp cuz they have nothing to lose.

[lukahh]

this is not over yet. an away goal for Real in 2nd game, and everything is open. they got better goalkeeper, they can still advance.

red card was deserved, so instead of being sore loser Mou should prepare strategy for next game. being as cunning as he is, he is probably doing just that while giving impression of accepting defeat.

[FindTheLock]

this is not over yet. an away goal for Real in 2nd game, and everything is open. they got better goalkeeper, they can still advance.

red card was deserved, so instead of being sore loser Mou should prepare strategy for next game. being as cunning as he is, he is probably doing just that while giving impression of accepting defeat.

it's true this is not over yet, but real needs to win by 2 because they are down 2 away goals. They can not only score 1 away goal to get back in this. They must win by 2 goals at camp nou. I don't remember the last time a team accomplished that. Then if the manage to win by 2 away goals at camp nou they only earn OT, unless they can score 3 away goals which would be a miracle.

[qukubau]

madrid and morinho are so pathetic.playing like this in a home game....

[OGUCCI-SBR]

Went through the comments pages and I think I read somewhere that the red card was fully deserved... ?!


As to 70% ball possession? Ok, you seriously started watching football yesterday.
I can make you a 10 minute long compilation where Puyol and Pique ball around, that percentage number piled up next to their 16 yard box. You clearly haven't heard the word - tactics, yes Mourinho used a hideous one BUT don't say Barca fucckin outplayed them and use that stupid Ball possession stat as an argumentation.
It's like you didn't watch Spain at WC2010 or Barca ever, when they play top teams, they like to keep the ball and fatigue their opponent, since it wasn't working too well with Real sitting back, all they got was that big possession and all we got was a relatively boring ElClassico.
Go check the shots On and off the target for yesterday's match and stick those 70% somewhere else.