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  • b-jamin
    SBR Rookie
    • 07-25-06
    • 13

    #1
    Formula Asian Handicap
    Hi all,

    Hope you can help me.

    i want to convert 12X prices into Asian Handicap prices, but i dont know the formula... Did somebody can help me ?
    especially for those one:

    AH-0.5-1
    AH-1
    AH-1-1.5
    AH-1.5

    And i try to do the same for the under/over Asian Handicap
    To convert the U/O 2.5 in:

    U/O 2
    U/O 2-2.5
    U/O 2.5-3
    U/O 3

    Thanks for any help
  • Augustus
    SBR MVP
    • 09-05-06
    • 2787

    #2
    Asian Handicap involves two wagers.

    AH -0.5 -1, 1st wager -0.5 goal, 2nd wager -1 goal
    AH -1, both wagers -1 goal
    AH -1 -1.5, 1st wager -1 goal, 2nd wager -1.5 goals
    AH -1.5, both wagers -1.5 goals

    U/O 2, both wagers U/O 2 goals
    U/O 2-2.5, 1st wager O/U 2 goals, 2nd wager O/U 2.5 goals
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    • Augustus
      SBR MVP
      • 09-05-06
      • 2787

      #3
      -0.25 goals is the same as pk and -0.5 goals
      -0.75 goals is the same as -0.5 and -1 goals
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      • b-jamin
        SBR Rookie
        • 07-25-06
        • 13

        #4
        Hi, thanks to answer...

        But, i'm sorry i'm french and i dont speak (and understand) well english.

        My question was the calculation. How did the bookmakers for to calculate the 1X2 odds in AH odds.

        Exemple:

        If the 1X2 odds are "1.38" - "5.2" - "9.8"
        what will be the odds for the AH shown higher

        thanks
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        • Augustus
          SBR MVP
          • 09-05-06
          • 2787

          #5
          1X2 odds are 3 ways.
          AH odds are 2 ways.

          Asian Handicap advantage compared to fixed odds:

          You eliminate the possibility of a draw result, increasing your main winning chance from 33.3 percent to 50 percent in a single game.
          If a quarter handicap game ends with a tie result, and you fail to win your bet, you only lose 50 % of your stake.

          Depending on the handicap you can win your bet even if the team you bet on don't win the game.
          You can bet on a team you believe will lose the game, but because of a big handicap you can still win the bet. Typical here is when the favorite team win the game with only one goal.

          When following the match 'live', tension is high since a single goal can take you from losing to winning (or the other way around).
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          • b-jamin
            SBR Rookie
            • 07-25-06
            • 13

            #6


            I speak chinese ? Serious ...?
            I go to believe that it's come from me.

            Thanks for your answer, but it's not for this one i'm looking for.

            If somebody have it, thanks to reply.

            Regards
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            • juuso
              SBR MVP
              • 10-04-05
              • 2896

              #7
              You can convert 3-way lines to some handicaps like level ball (0), -0.5, +0.5 etc, but not all kinds of handicaps. wouldn't it be better to open an account at a book where you can bet straight asians? Better odds that way also.
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              • Pegasus
                SBR MVP
                • 09-05-06
                • 1024

                #8
                There is no way to convert a 3-way 1X2 odds to 2 ways AH odds. They are two different concepts.

                If you take the home side, it is the same as home -0.5 goals.
                If you take the away side, it is the same as away -0.5 goals.
                There is no way to convert the DRAW to Asian Handicap odds.
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                • b-jamin
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 07-25-06
                  • 13

                  #9
                  Thanks everybody.

                  It's more for the betting exchange site.

                  So, i dont understand how did the book do for to convert their Asian Handicap.
                  Did you know if it exist and table or a book who show the divert comparison ?

                  Sorry for my english.
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                  • juuso
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-04-05
                    • 2896

                    #10
                    Originally posted by b-jamin
                    Thanks everybody.

                    It's more for the betting exchange site.

                    So, i dont understand how did the book do for to convert their Asian Handicap.
                    Did you know if it exist and table or a book who show the divert comparison ?

                    Sorry for my english.
                    If you want to know how Asian lines and odds are calculed from 1x2 probabilities, read this one:

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                    • nasdaq888
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-22-05
                      • 1045

                      #11
                      Originally posted by juuso
                      If you want to know how Asian lines and odds are calculed from 1x2 probabilities, read this one:

                      http://www.sportsdiscover.com/3/AsianHandicap.pdf
                      Great link Juuso !
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                      • b-jamin
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 07-25-06
                        • 13

                        #12
                        Awesome juuso

                        Thanks very much.
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                        • aca
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-20-06
                          • 2111

                          #13
                          Thanks for link!
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                          • b-jamin
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 07-25-06
                            • 13

                            #14
                            Hi juuso...

                            Did you have the same link for to calculate the under/over Asian Handicap too ?
                            I'm looking for to convert the under/over 2.5 into the AH U/O 2; AH U/O 2-2.5; U/O 2.5-3; U/O 3...

                            All and all, your first link was perfect for what i'm looking for.

                            Thanks.
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                            • juuso
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-04-05
                              • 2896

                              #15
                              Originally posted by b-jamin
                              Hi juuso...

                              Did you have the same link for to calculate the under/over Asian Handicap too ?
                              I'm looking for to convert the under/over 2.5 into the AH U/O 2; AH U/O 2-2.5; U/O 2.5-3; U/O 3...

                              All and all, your first link was perfect for what i'm looking for.

                              Thanks.
                              Poisson distribution is what you can use to scale the totals to different goal numbers.

                              Do a google on poisson distribution and it's various uses in betting.
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                              • kangaroo21
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 03-26-07
                                • 3

                                #16
                                AsianHandicap.pdf

                                the link doesn't work :


                                does anyone have the document or know the right link ?

                                Cheers
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                                • jimmyc
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 06-18-08
                                  • 11

                                  #17
                                  Asian Handicap guide

                                  Hi,

                                  Just bringing an old post back which has a link to download how Asian Handicap is calculated. Anyone knows of any other good link / guide?

                                  Thanks for helping a newbie here.
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                                  • pico
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 04-05-07
                                    • 27321

                                    #18
                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                    • rollerman
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 11-07-09
                                      • 3

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by kangaroo21
                                      the link doesn't work :


                                      does anyone have the document or know the right link ?

                                      Cheers

                                      Hi guys, i have same problem here, does anyone still have that pdf document that was posted from Juuso?
                                      Many thanks in advance
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                                      • mariomonte
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 06-27-09
                                        • 98

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by rollerman
                                        Hi guys, i have same problem here, does anyone still have that pdf document that was posted from Juuso? Many thanks in advance
                                        I can send you the document if you haven't got it 10 times already. Just send me a PM.
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                                        • mariomonte
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 06-27-09
                                          • 98

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Pegasus
                                          There is no way to convert a 3-way 1X2 odds to 2 ways AH odds. They are two different concepts. If you take the home side, it is the same as home -0.5 goals. If you take the away side, it is the same as away -0.5 goals. There is no way to convert the DRAW to Asian Handicap odds.
                                          Not true.
                                          You can easily convert 1x2 to AH odds using the bookie's implicit probabilities - and therefore calculate their relative value.
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                                          • sbc123
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 12-08-09
                                            • 1

                                            #22
                                            Hi guys just joined the forum after doing a google search for converting 1 X 2 odds to AH and vice versa. The aforementioned pdf looks ideal but the link is now down. Could some kind soul possibly send it to me via PM?

                                            Regards
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                                            • Landprofits
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 08-26-09
                                              • 138

                                              #23
                                              Does anybody still have that PDF?
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                                              • startm
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 01-07-10
                                                • 460

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Landprofits
                                                Does anybody still have that PDF?


                                                Here you can find formulas for asian handicaps calculation.
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                                                • SportsInsights
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 119

                                                  #25
                                                  I'm looking to talk with someone that knows soccer betting, specifically Asian Handicap and 3Way Handicap. I'm in the process of creating a soccer odds comparison product, I'd like to get an idea how punters want AHC and 3Way Handicap presented in an comparison odds format. Thanks, Dan
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                                                  • freakypi
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 01-15-12
                                                    • 1

                                                    #26
                                                    Hi guys, I just saw the thread, as I was searching for such formula as well, if someone can send me that PDF, it will be highly appriciated.

                                                    Regards P
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