Are Democrats. They are trying to erase the history so EVERYONE does not know all the Racists in American History were Democrats.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
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Trump Has Dismantled More Monuments Than Any Protest
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What does Sleepy Joe think of all this destruction ?
Nobody knows . His handlers won’t let the mute answer tough questions .
AG Bill Barr previously highlighted the DOJ effort to coordinate with the National Parks Service to identify perpetrators who were attempting to destroy national monuments on federal property. Accordingly, the DOJ has been searching for several suspects identified in video coordinating their attacks. Today the DOJ announced first four suspects to be charged. One is currently under arrest, the other three are on the run:
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Monarchy never lost 1776. Pushing Empire building wherever they land. They never care what you call your ideology, WE ALL serve the same master, .0000001% over 99.999999%
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What? In Britain the most forward thinking country in Europe at that time the three pillars of conservatism were 1) the monarchy 2) the established church 3) the aristocracy.
while creating the new nation:
In a stroke of enlightened progressive genius the founders managed
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A man attempting to vandalize the St. Louis IX statue discovers the Law of Gravity<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/hOgO1wnO5a">pic.twitter.com/hOgO1wnO5a</a></p>— Hirsty (@realHirsty) <a href="https://twitter.com/realHirsty/status/1277419625802858496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Comment -
Eh kinda of agree with her on that.
You tear down all the reminders of messed up things that happened...you end up with stuff like "Plantation Weddings".
These dudes make some good points, including the one: if you tear down and rename everything but nothing else changes, did you actually accomplish anything?
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Yea I got no problem with that quote either.Eh kinda of agree with her on that.
You tear down all the reminders of messed up things that happened...you end up with stuff like "Plantation Weddings".
These dudes make some good points, including the one: if you tear down and rename everything but nothing else changes, did you actually accomplish anything?
The problem is that most Americans don't know or understand their history to begin with.
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hey brother, this is for bigtymer56 too,
I understand that some want that heritage preserved as a reminder of the hardships of the past, but I also know that their are those that want it totally gone and I side with them.
My grandparents and parents were from the coal mining towns of eastern Kentucky and the grandparents on both sides were a very racist bunch, my father was not though, he was career military and he saw the injustice towards those of color in the military and he taught me and my siblings to respect all, regardless of color.
My own indoctrination into racism started with my grandparents, who my father kept us children away from as one of my grandads was a card carrying member of the KKK, when I enlisted in the Army, I saw first hand racism in the different units I was assigned to, I saw the hurt in the black brothers eyes when some cracker from the south would hang a confederate flag from his hooch or a rebel yell after a night of drinking that General Robert E Lee should be leading us and all blacks would be working in the mess and digging latrines,if he was in charge.
In the 1968 Olympics when Tommie Smith and John Carlos raised there fist in protest, we almost had a riot in my outfit as a lot of white brothers thought this to be an insult to America, but not me, I understood, it was a terrible time and with the other things going on around the world it made trusting the guy next to you very hard.
I see Condi Rice grew up in better conditions than most of my brothers of color who were drafted from rural and ghetto areas of America, most of the ones that I befriended told me that they and their families were sick of the reminders of the past, especially the ones who lived in the south.
I get it, I hope that the world can change and I am all for removing the stain that still haunts a few of my brothers to this day, maybe I should not have an opinion on this as I am white and old, but I have seen the hurt that symbols can cause and if it helps the healing process I'm fine with the removal.
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Always a stand up guy, & now I learn you were ahead of your time. I got no problem with taking down BS monuments (many that were put up in the civil rights era) that promote white power. Nor am I a fan of C. Rice.hey brother, this is for bigtymer56 too,
I understand that some want that heritage preserved as a reminder of the hardships of the past, but I also know that their are those that want it totally gone and I side with them.
My grandparents and parents were from the coal mining towns of eastern Kentucky and the grandparents on both sides were a very racist bunch, my father was not though, he was career military and he saw the injustice towards those of color in the military and he taught me and my siblings to respect all, regardless of color.
My own indoctrination into racism started with my grandparents, who my father kept us children away from as one of my grandads was a card carrying member of the KKK, when I enlisted in the Army, I saw first hand racism in the different units I was assigned to, I saw the hurt in the black brothers eyes when some cracker from the south would hang a confederate flag from his hooch or a rebel yell after a night of drinking that General Robert E Lee should be leading us and all blacks would be working in the mess and digging latrines,if he was in charge.
In the 1968 Olympics when Tommie Smith and John Carlos raised there fist in protest, we almost had a riot in my outfit as a lot of white brothers thought this to be an insult to America, but not me, I understood, it was a terrible time and with the other things going on around the world it made trusting the guy next to you very hard.
I see Condi Rice grew up in better conditions than most of my brothers of color who were drafted from rural and ghetto areas of America, most of the ones that I befriended told me that they and their families were sick of the reminders of the past, especially the ones who lived in the south.
I get it, I hope that the world can change and I am all for removing the stain that still haunts a few of my brothers to this day, maybe I should not have an opinion on this as I am white and old, but I have seen the hurt that symbols can cause and if it helps the healing process I'm fine with the removal.
But I agree that history good or bad should be preserved, not so much it the public square. But in areas were it can be talked about, learned & not whitewashed as it is in many public schools. IMO the quote has some merit. Not that Dwight posted it for the reason of using that merit. We all know why he posted it.
If you give people civil & economic justice as the vid posted by biggs says. That history seems to matter less, but should still not be forgotten. Or we are doomed to repeat it.
If I never learned most of the history that for the most part is never talked about in this country. I would be an asshole like Dwight. LOL
Luck for you, your old man was hip & understanding. Most of my family more or less was a version of your grandparents. But I will say I don't think any were in the KKK. But my grandfather was from Kentucky. One of my aunts was married to one of the Pinkertons for a while.
If you don't know who the Pinkertons were, they were cops that were sent in to beat the fuk out of labor strikers.
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You ain't clowning around. Glad you slipped through the cracks, never sold out.hey brother, this is for bigtymer56 too,
I understand that some want that heritage preserved as a reminder of the hardships of the past, but I also know that their are those that want it totally gone and I side with them.
My grandparents and parents were from the coal mining towns of eastern Kentucky and the grandparents on both sides were a very racist bunch, my father was not though, he was career military and he saw the injustice towards those of color in the military and he taught me and my siblings to respect all, regardless of color.
My own indoctrination into racism started with my grandparents, who my father kept us children away from as one of my grandads was a card carrying member of the KKK, when I enlisted in the Army, I saw first hand racism in the different units I was assigned to, I saw the hurt in the black brothers eyes when some cracker from the south would hang a confederate flag from his hooch or a rebel yell after a night of drinking that General Robert E Lee should be leading us and all blacks would be working in the mess and digging latrines,if he was in charge.
In the 1968 Olympics when Tommie Smith and John Carlos raised there fist in protest, we almost had a riot in my outfit as a lot of white brothers thought this to be an insult to America, but not me, I understood, it was a terrible time and with the other things going on around the world it made trusting the guy next to you very hard.
I see Condi Rice grew up in better conditions than most of my brothers of color who were drafted from rural and ghetto areas of America, most of the ones that I befriended told me that they and their families were sick of the reminders of the past, especially the ones who lived in the south.
I get it, I hope that the world can change and I am all for removing the stain that still haunts a few of my brothers to this day, maybe I should not have an opinion on this as I am white and old, but I have seen the hurt that symbols can cause and if it helps the healing process I'm fine with the removal.
Land of Lincoln proud of your service
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History is important and I respect your view and the view of others on this topic, I could list other examples of my own personal history, but that would be bias on my behalf, the confusing part for me is I look around today and I see a lot of similarities to the 60's, I ask have we grown as nation when it comes to accepting people of all races, creed and color, I do believe we have, but in the past four years the ugly side of our nation has been exposed by those that do not hold my beliefs, as much as I would like to forget this stain I am sure we will remember this history for generations to come.
But my grandfather was from Kentucky. One of my aunts was married to one of the Pinkertons for a while.Wow, my family of rednecks was named Parker and they instigated all kinds of sh!t in those labor disputes or so I have been told, it's small world my friend,LOLIf you don't know who the Pinkertons were, they were cops that were sent in to beat the fuk out of labor strikers.
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Firm believer in that upbringing defines who we become later in life, standup guys like you, khicks and others on this forum are what makes me believe that the future will be safe for generations to come.hats off to you my friend
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They been fuking with US for 10,000 years, Checker Players. We created Chess to fuk with them. Knowbuddy dare fuk with Chinese Checkers up to now. Checkmate, NWO prototype, CIA backed 1945. WE Always Knew,( WAK OFFS Underground WAC's) 75 years down the drain. Mankind will win this round, A
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We have advanced on civil rights, & each generation seems to be a little better. Worlds of difference from my generation to my kids generation. The kids coming up today make my kids look like conservatives.History is important and I respect your view and the view of others on this topic, I could list other examples of my own personal history, but that would be bias on my behalf, the confusing part for me is I look around today and I see a lot of similarities to the 60's, I ask have we grown as nation when it comes to accepting people of all races, creed and color, I do believe we have, but in the past four years the ugly side of our nation has been exposed by those that do not hold my beliefs, as much as I would like to forget this stain I am sure we will remember this history for generations to come.
Wow, my family of rednecks was named Parker and they instigated all kinds of sh!t in those labor disputes or so I have been told, it's small world my friend,LOL
The problem is economic justice. Its a class war disguised as a race war.
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Exactly. The news fools people into thinking race relations are way worse than they are. I can see why people (esp some of the guys on this site) have such warped views. Everyday Americans get along just fine.We have advanced on civil rights, & each generation seems to be a little better. Worlds of difference from my generation to my kids generation. The kids coming up today make my kids look like conservatives.
The problem is economic justice. Its a class war disguised as a race war.
Pretty much why they killed him.
PS. I wonder if my kids when they're adults are gonna look at the movies and tv I watch and think Im an asshole. Can't wait to watch Tropic Thunder with them and see their reactions.
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LOL, they are going to think your an asshole either way. LOL But don't worry, they come back to you.Exactly. The news fools people into thinking race relations are way worse than they are. I can see why people (esp some of the guys on this site) have such warped views. Everyday Americans get along just fine.
PS. I wonder if my kids when they're adults are gonna look at the movies and tv I watch and think Im an asshole. Can't wait to watch Tropic Thunder with them and see their reactions.Comment -
L8night, please keep sharing your thoughts and opinions.hey brother, this is for bigtymer56 too,
I understand that some want that heritage preserved as a reminder of the hardships of the past, but I also know that their are those that want it totally gone and I side with them.
My grandparents and parents were from the coal mining towns of eastern Kentucky and the grandparents on both sides were a very racist bunch, my father was not though, he was career military and he saw the injustice towards those of color in the military and he taught me and my siblings to respect all, regardless of color.
My own indoctrination into racism started with my grandparents, who my father kept us children away from as one of my grandads was a card carrying member of the KKK, when I enlisted in the Army, I saw first hand racism in the different units I was assigned to, I saw the hurt in the black brothers eyes when some cracker from the south would hang a confederate flag from his hooch or a rebel yell after a night of drinking that General Robert E Lee should be leading us and all blacks would be working in the mess and digging latrines,if he was in charge.
In the 1968 Olympics when Tommie Smith and John Carlos raised there fist in protest, we almost had a riot in my outfit as a lot of white brothers thought this to be an insult to America, but not me, I understood, it was a terrible time and with the other things going on around the world it made trusting the guy next to you very hard.
I see Condi Rice grew up in better conditions than most of my brothers of color who were drafted from rural and ghetto areas of America, most of the ones that I befriended told me that they and their families were sick of the reminders of the past, especially the ones who lived in the south.
I get it, I hope that the world can change and I am all for removing the stain that still haunts a few of my brothers to this day, maybe I should not have an opinion on this as I am white and old, but I have seen the hurt that symbols can cause and if it helps the healing process I'm fine with the removal.
Your post actual made me realize something. Like Condi, being in my liberal northern bubble, I don't have to deal with seeing these reminders all the time, so it's way easier for me to say don't tear them down. And honestly, if people tear them down I don't really care. Ideally, they'll replace them with monuments of people who deserve it.
And to Khicks point, education is huge thing. In my 30's now, and looking back, we learned the bare minimum about history in school.Comment
