Fading Indian Cowboy-Friday

Ultimate_Marvel · 02-24-12, 12:19 PM

Oh Lord.....not again....

seanrabi09 · 02-24-12, 12:30 PM

Not sure I would waste my time finding data to fade him, but it is obvious he isn't a very good handicapper. He just gets people upset in this forum, because there are a few people who act like he is God. The guy hangs out in his bedroom at his parents house and just throws darts at games and hopes he gets lucky. He had his big hockey play last night with the over in the boston game, which saw 2 goals scored, never had a chance. He's a joke, I just wouldnt pay attention to him. I wish we could just get rid of any and all IC threads

skyscrapers · 02-24-12, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by seanrabi09

Not sure I would waste my time finding data to fade him, but it is obvious he isn't a very good handicapper. He just gets people upset in this forum, because there are a few people who act like he is God. The guy hangs out in his bedroom at his parents house and just throws darts at games and hopes he gets lucky. He had his big hockey play last night with the over in the boston game, which saw 2 goals scored, never had a chance. He's a joke, I just wouldnt pay attention to him. I wish we could just get rid of any and all IC threads

Dude, his big hockey play last night was the over in the PHI/EDM game not BOS. In fact BOS didn't even play last night.

Yes, he is a tout but I wouldn't call him a joke. There are so many jokers out there that are way worse. You faders should consider fading the other jokers out there instead of IC as a better option.

seanrabi09 · 02-24-12, 12:58 PM

My bad - I meant the flyers - THe game ended 2-0, never had a chance. I agree I wouldnt fade him, but I wouldnt follow him either. He is awful and at best will hit 45-50% in the long run.

bigdonk · 02-24-12, 01:00 PM

....While overall results are slightly positive for followers, we believe current IC form has a bias to the downside with faders to gather profit momentum in the coming days....

Just curious, who is we?

bigdonk · 02-24-12, 01:04 PM

Im a very small time gambler and only do this for entertainment, so I really dont have any vested interest in any handicapper, but I have been following IC and from everything I have heard he is a documented winner on an annual basis.

"He is awful and at best will hit 45-50% in the long run."

What are you basing this comment off of? Has he ever lost money in any season? I dont know the answer, I'm asking...

LightMyFire · 02-24-12, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by bigdonk

....While overall results are slightly positive for followers, we believe current IC form has a bias to the downside with faders to gather profit momentum in the coming days....

Just curious, who is we?

I sometimes refer to myself as we. My shrink says I have Multiple Personality Disorder. He says it is due to the fact that I got lost in the woods when I was 6 months old and was raised by a pack of wild sheepdogs until I was 5 years of age.

BeardedTaco · 02-24-12, 01:40 PM

My personal IC paid plays tracker since November:

Risked: $326,127.08 Won: $172,102.86 Lost: -$141,127.00 Net: $30,975.86 Win Percentage 56.98% | 151-114-3

LightMyFire · 02-24-12, 01:49 PM

Taco, first 10 rounds are on you!

uup115 · 02-24-12, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by BeardedTaco

My personal IC paid plays tracker since November: Risked: $326,127.08 Won: $172,102.86 Lost: -$141,127.00 Net: $30,975.86 Win Percentage 56.98% | 151-114-3

what is your risk per star? $300?

dariofranco · 02-24-12, 02:11 PM

More than 300$, more. I can't understand you follow a guy who hits 56% at cuotes 1.9 with those amounts per bet, maybe 30$. What is his ridiculous ROI?

There are better handicappers..

You mad bro · 02-24-12, 02:56 PM

dude are you down money right now by fading? .. im trying to understand what you are doing here

rglopez · 02-24-12, 03:14 PM

Im quite sure you will be banned before the month and your data is completed...Do yourself a favor and go put together a fade chart on someone else. You obviously aren't risking any of your money doing this otherwise you would have reversed your strategy since you continue to be down units.

You mad bro · 02-24-12, 03:17 PM

why will he be banned? you cant fade IC i dont get it

RoiScout · 02-24-12, 03:34 PM

Best thing of using a PROFFESIONAL monitoring service is that the data is unbiased and you can trust it.
IC's results obtained from The Sports Monitor
NBA current season: +$7300 - W/L 26/17, 60.47%
NCAAB current season: +$19300 - W/L 49/27 64.47%,
NHL current season: +$2500 - W/L 54/47, 53.46%

peppermillrick · 02-24-12, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by LightMyFire

Taco, first 10 rounds are on you!

When did you get out?

OpiateBank · 02-24-12, 06:17 PM

You cant post anything negative or even slightly non positive about the boy blunder. You can cuss and use profanity on Lang but not boy blunder. Could be a racial biased or payments to the forum to keep his appearance pollished for the revenue flow to his site. Thats just the way it is.

uup115 · 02-24-12, 06:50 PM

if there was a good spot to fade this is it with such a limited card....

beastoftheast · 02-24-12, 07:50 PM

cowboy is cold

langlover · 02-24-12, 08:01 PM

Good to have you back Sheepdog. Keep up the stats for the public. It would be nice to have one on all touts. Two years ago you would have been crucified even harder for fading Ras as he moved the vegas line more than Billy Walters. Now he is almost forgotten, but a few of his loyalists appear from time to time.

LightMyFire · 02-24-12, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by langlover

Good to have you back Sheepdog. Keep up the stats for the public. It would be nice to have one on all touts. Two years ago you would have been crucified even harder for fading Ras as he moved the vegas line more than Billy Walters. Now he is almost forgotten, but a few of his loyalists appear from time to time.

Ed is a first class guy. I would follow his totals but wear a parachute for a quick exit when things turn south. I would never fade him. He has a reputation to uphold which is probably why he packed in in early this season. Seems like I remember several years ago he was way off form and refunded all subscriber money. Not any cappers that I know of would do that.

HoulihansTX · 02-24-12, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by OpiateBank

You cant post anything negative or even slightly non positive about the boy blunder. You can cuss and use profanity on Lang but not boy blunder. Could be a racial biased or payments to the forum to keep his appearance pollished for the revenue flow to his site. Thats just the way it is.

SBR has been trying to prop this guy up for the past year, with videos(endorsements), and allowing him free reign.

downsouth · 02-24-12, 08:52 PM

My guess is you get infraction points/bans because you continue to clutter the service play section of the board with a fade thread. This obviously does not belong here and you have been told a few times but your need/want for people to notice and interact with you continues to lead you to post here. So obviously only a matter of time before you are given a vacation from SBR world again.

Imagine the cluter if everyone pulled this same stunt.

And for the record I neither play nor fade IC and have no problem with fade threads. Just believe they should be posted in the appropriate areas.

LightMyFire · 02-24-12, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

My guess is you get infraction points/bans because you continue to clutter the service play section of the board with a fade thread. This obviously does not belong here and you have been told a few times but your need/want for people to notice and interact with you continues to lead you to post here. So obviously only a matter of time before you are given a vacation from SBR world again.

Imagine the cluter if everyone pulled this same stunt.

And for the record I neither play nor fade IC and have no problem with fade threads. Just believe they should be posted in the appropriate areas.

There are quite a few threads in this forum that, per you, are not service threads-threads that fade various cappers and treads that just report records of cappers.

I would contend that a fade thread is, by any definition, a serivce play thread.

Today the IC service thread had 2 plays:
Idaho + 5.5 & Boston/Buffalo over 5.5

Today this thread had 2 plays:
Utah State -5.5 & Boston/Buffalo under 5.5

The first thread is a service play thread.
The second is not a service play thread.

Makes no sense.

dugdogg · 02-24-12, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by BeardedTaco

My personal IC paid plays tracker since November:

Risked: $326,127.08 Won: $172,102.86 Lost: -$141,127.00 Net: $30,975.86 Win Percentage 56.98% | 151-114-3

IS THIS A JOKE?!?! he's 18 games above .500 so about +15 or +16 units on the year and you're up $30k??

so you're assuming $2k/unit??? come on dude seriously???

being up 15 units on the entire year in all sports is honestly pathetic for a tout...he did cfb, nfl, nhl, mlb, nba... really only 15 units combined?

Stinkfist12 · 02-24-12, 10:46 PM

Solid play on Idaho and BOS over. Honestly, I pick my own games and do my own research and occasionally use these forums to take a play. In my opinion if you can't pick your own games then you shouldn't be gambling because your trusting someone else with your money. If you choose to take plays made by someone else I think we've all followed the results. Pick your own games and if you're not competent enough to do that you shouldn't whine about a touts plays. Just my opinion

Robert Ferringo · 02-24-12, 11:13 PM

Robert Ferringo · 02-24-12, 11:13 PM

Robert Ferringo · 02-24-12, 11:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRmxfLuNto

But I will get my point across somehow.

Robert Ferringo · 02-24-12, 11:15 PM

PS - That picture of the Pillsbury Doughboy was the funniest thing I have seen this month. I couldn't stop laughing. Good show.

LightMyFire · 02-24-12, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Robert Ferringo

The satisfaction is in trying, even if you fail, then not trying at all.

I don't want to offend you, but I believe you release too many plays. Love Ya anyway!

LightMyFire · 02-24-12, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by Robert Ferringo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRmxfLuNto

But I will get my point across somehow.

Bravo! A classic that can be used over and over again in almost all situations.

Robert Ferringo · 02-24-12, 11:36 PM

Haha. Yeah, I have no idea how to embed or any of that nonsense. But I was so giddy that I found a perfect situation to break out that scene that I just had to get it up there somehow.

And no worries; I can't be offended. And I am used to people saying that I play too many games. But to them I say, "You can't count."

BeardedTaco · 02-24-12, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by dugdogg

IS THIS A JOKE?!?! he's 18 games above .500 so about +15 or +16 units on the year and you're up $30k??

so you're assuming $2k/unit??? come on dude seriously???

being up 15 units on the entire year in all sports is honestly pathetic for a tout...he did cfb, nfl, nhl, mlb, nba... really only 15 units combined?

I'm not sure if you are leveling me with the units comment? My post clearly states a 57% hit rate along with an almost 10% yield. A high volume guy like Ferringo most likely has a 5% yield this season but him and IC both have similar profits. One plays a lot of games and the other is more selective.

I can't really comment on my unit size since it has changed multiple times depending on the sport. If you have been betting the same size per unit this year for nba+nhl+nfl as you do for his CBB you are doing it wrong.