Why are you guys trying so hard to prove this system wrong?
LostSun - The BIGGEST flaw to your arguement is that you are using each teams YEAR ENDING RPI. When they played in June they were NOT within .01 RPI points and therefore it was NOT a play!
That's what makes it extremely hard to backtest. How can you use Year Ending RPI for a game between 2 teams in Mid June????
What is an RPI?
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Munson15
SBR High Roller
12-24-07
218
#74
Originally posted by durito
I thought you recommended BetUS?
Where else would you suggest betting these? Where else can you buy 3pts at -170?
Bet Jam and Sportsbook
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therber2
Restricted User
12-22-08
3715
#75
Originally posted by Justin7
I call bullshit.
Include pushes as wins in your record? Remove losing plays from your record? Use lines that don't exist in your record? Use progressive betting that require you to exceed a book's limits?
These systems are full of it. A player who follows them is out the money, as well as the negative equity of betting them. If your system wants to undergo formal tracking, I'll take a look at it. But that hasn't happened and it won't - it will be exposed.
Justin, you should backtest it doing what John said before calling bullshit. You've been wrong plenty of times. I have respect for both of you, but I think you should consider what he is putting out on the table instead of immediately discounting it.
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underdog
Restricted User
07-02-07
33
#76
Still think this is a waste of money...but only my opinion. I lost money with the Morrison racket.
Plusline Sports is the ONLY pay service or pay system that I have found in 5 years that actually delivers a c-o-n-s-i-s-t-e-n-t profit over MLB and hoops.
Hey, I am just one person with an opinion and an experience. There are many.
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ThomasKranked
SBR Rookie
01-19-09
25
#77
Can anyone tell me a site where i can backtest a system with per-date-RPI-ratings? On espn.com i just found the final table of each season, but not, for example, the RPI ratings of the 22nd June 2007. But to backtest a system i need the RPI ratings just one day before a game was played, you know what i mean? Would be glad if anyone could help me. Thanks
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SoonerGreg
SBR Wise Guy
10-16-08
825
#78
I started following the JM system in NBA sometime in mid Jan. and it has been very profitable. I only buy 2 points b/c my bookie won't allow me to buy 3. With that said I still don't play every game I get an e-mail for and it has cost me a few winners too, but it has also prevented (A) losses & (B) losses. Bottom line is, Johnmorr08 is only offering to help. Why bash someone who is offering free help with a system that works the majority of the time?
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BouncedCheck
SBR Sharp
02-21-09
283
#79
Anyone using JM chase system yet?
I think JM is a scumbag and I would never pay for his system, but I'm starting out with my own version of a chase system. I have money on San Diego over LA tonight. It's a 4-game series, and home teams rarely get swept 4 straight. It also helps that the Dodgers will be favored in each individual game in this system, so I'm getting pretty good moneyline odds. Maybe I should have taken the runline to get +1.5? What does everybody think?
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The_Kid
SBR Hall of Famer
02-09-08
5049
#80
Originally posted by BouncedCheck
I think JM is a scumbag and I would never pay for his system, but I'm starting out with my own version of a chase system. I have money on San Diego over LA tonight. It's a 4-game series, and home teams rarely get swept 4 straight. It also helps that the Dodgers will be favored in each individual game in this system, so I'm getting pretty good moneyline odds. Maybe I should have taken the runline to get +1.5? What does everybody think?
You have to be careful with the teams you choose as one loss will wipe you out pretty good.
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Dexter
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-24-08
25829
#81
Originally posted by Justin7
I call bullshit.
Include pushes as wins in your record? Remove losing plays from your record? Use lines that don't exist in your record? Use progressive betting that require you to exceed a book's limits?
These systems are full of it. A player who follows them is out the money, as well as the negative equity of betting them. If your system wants to undergo formal tracking, I'll take a look at it. But that hasn't happened and it won't - it will be exposed.
just like the basketball one
i know, i know....you wanna take my action next year for $500K.
hey - maybe we all just got damn lucky in nba 2008-2009.
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BouncedCheck
SBR Sharp
02-21-09
283
#82
Originally posted by The_Kid
You have to be careful with the teams you choose as one loss will wipe you out pretty good.
Yeah, it's definitely important to understand the math of a chase system. Assuming even money on every bet, one loss will wipe out 7 wins.
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BouncedCheck
SBR Sharp
02-21-09
283
#83
Won on my A game today... Pads got the job done against LA.
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Syrax
SBR High Roller
03-09-09
188
#84
Originally posted by BouncedCheck
Won on my A game today... Pads got the job done against LA.
Nice mate keep us posted on you're system
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DevilDog
SBR High Roller
12-27-08
190
#85
There is a GREAT baseball and hockey system out there that I know a few here are using...but not mentioning. I have a feeling the JM system will do quite well this year. These types of chase systems are proven year after year....and they are easy to use.
As for the REAL JM...I do not know enough about him to make a comment but there are OTHER places you can go to that ARE FOR REAL.
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Shortstop
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
01-02-09
27281
#86
John Morrison has a Doctorate Degree from Cornell. Please refer to him as Doctor Morrison from now on.
Thank You!
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BouncedCheck
SBR Sharp
02-21-09
283
#87
Originally posted by Syrax
Nice mate keep us posted on you're system
There were actually two other A games that both won Tuesday night - St. Louis over Pittsburgh and Minnesota over Seattle. I didn't bet on them though. I only bet on San Diego.
Good luck to all!
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thebestthereis
SBR Posting Legend
03-01-09
11459
#88
How are JM plays already starting before the first of any series are over? Usually they don't start for a few weeks based on the schedules. Is there a new system? Can some PM the details to me? Thanks for the help, much appreciated.
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jellobiafra
SBR Hall of Famer
03-08-09
6291
#89
I don't think there have been any JM plays yet. You gotta wait for somebody to get swept first.
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JohnMorr08
SBR Sharp
11-18-08
366
#90
Don't get greedy and bet without considering RPI - I promise you it will ease the heart-burn - Wait it out
Good Luck
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DevilDog
SBR High Roller
12-27-08
190
#91
Wow! Some of you really do not understand what is going on here. There are OTHER systems out there (yes they are sold) that do NOT involve a team first getting swept. I cannot comment much on them here but some of you are really missing out!!
JM is NOT the only guy that has sensational betting systems..he is just the guy that is the most well known.
There is a system out there right now that is 90-1 in hockey (I know because I use it) and a system that went like 186-6 last year in baseball. Others on this board know about them but don't say much about them.
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jackng
SBR Rookie
11-27-08
14
#92
I LOOOOVE that there are all these different systems out there that are 447-6 and 1000000-4, that lots of people know about.....but just don't talk about much. Gimme a ****in break...
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BouncedCheck
SBR Sharp
02-21-09
283
#93
Originally posted by JohnMorr08
Don't get greedy and bet without considering RPI - I promise you it will ease the heart-burn - Wait it out
Good Luck
I don't know what RPI is and I don't care. I have several filters that are based on simple baseball statistics that have been easily understandable to the average baseball fan for over 100 years. I'm a purist at heart and I despise sabermatricians and anyone who flaunts newly-created stats like OPS and "win shares." Those who overanalyze the game in the media have contributed to ruin baseball for me. I no longer enjoy it as a fan. It has become an unhealthy obsession and addiction, and at least by gambling recreationally, I'm hoping to start enjoying it a little more by regaining a rooting interest. I no longer have a favorite team, so it will be a little different than it used to be for me, but at least I'll have a team I can root for on any given day.
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jellobiafra
SBR Hall of Famer
03-08-09
6291
#94
You despise people who use stats like OPS? That's a pretty useful stat.
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BouncedCheck
SBR Sharp
02-21-09
283
#95
OPS is a tool used by lazy fools who want to create a single statistic to use as a "lowest common denominator" differentiator between hitters. OPS doesn't reveal nearly as much information as OBP and SLG when broken down into their original components. In fact, those aren't all that informative either absent other relevant information. I have to see a player's entire statistical profile in order to really understand what kind of hitter he is and how he's likely to perform in specific situations against different types of pitchers.
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Foghorn
SBR Sharp
01-28-09
461
#96
Love how one guy posts his system and tracks it, and others speak of other systems, don't know where to find them, can't tell you you about them, but they are proven to be better............
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SPORTSKING
SBR Rookie
03-22-09
5
#97
Say what!!!
Tou my friend are an ignaramous you have no clue i made over 300,000 on the NBA going to make another 150,000 in mlb My advice to you is pick your own games and make your bookie rich thanks the sportsking.
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rgga86
SBR High Roller
02-21-09
216
#98
nationals has just be swept against marlins, the next series between them starts the next week, is this an A bet for nationals?
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Syrax
SBR High Roller
03-09-09
188
#99
Originally posted by DevilDog
Wow! Some of you really do not understand what is going on here. There are OTHER systems out there (yes they are sold) that do NOT involve a team first getting swept. I cannot comment much on them here but some of you are really missing out!!
JM is NOT the only guy that has sensational betting systems..he is just the guy that is the most well known.
There is a system out there right now that is 90-1 in hockey (I know because I use it) and a system that went like 186-6 last year in baseball. Others on this board know about them but don't say much about them.
mate If you know of another system why not share it? Thats what the forum is for
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Cheme82
SBR Hall of Famer
09-03-08
7823
#100
It will depend on the RPI at that point.
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Syrax
SBR High Roller
03-09-09
188
#101
Originally posted by BouncedCheck
There were actually two other A games that both won Tuesday night - St. Louis over Pittsburgh and Minnesota over Seattle. I didn't bet on them though. I only bet on San Diego.
Good luck to all!
Yes I saw those games that had a win, it looks promising, Il throw down a little bit of cash and see where I end up
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Dexter
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-24-08
25829
#102
Originally posted by DevilDog
Wow! Some of you really do not understand what is going on here. There are OTHER systems out there (yes they are sold) that do NOT involve a team first getting swept. I cannot comment much on them here but some of you are really missing out!!
JM is NOT the only guy that has sensational betting systems..he is just the guy that is the most well known.
There is a system out there right now that is 90-1 in hockey (I know because I use it) and a system that went like 186-6 last year in baseball. Others on this board know about them but don't say much about them.
devildog - pm me where i can go to look up these systems. thx.
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therber2
Restricted User
12-22-08
3715
#103
Yeah PM me too.
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jmathes
SBR MVP
02-19-09
2385
#104
Guys, I am 100% this is another John Morrison scam. There is a website called Ratedpicks that are releasing picks right now in the service plays area of SBR. They are hitting a very good streak and exploiting this to the fullest. When cappers hit a hot streak they capitalize on this greatly by luring people in to their website. The main reason I believe that this is a John Morrison scam is by going to the site and looking at the advertisements. The advertisement links then redirect you to the Sportsbettingchamp website which is John Morrison's scam site. They also say that if you are one of the first 50 people they will give you a lifetime of free picks. That is the same scam that John Morrison promises on his site. If you go to their website they claim to have an insane record which I copied and posted below. There is no way in hell that any handicappers can hit at 80% with that many picks. All I have to say is be careful because I have seen a few people that have already bought this subscription and are already fooled. It never ceases to amaze me the levels that John Morrison will stoop to in order to make money.
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payingthejuice
Restricted User
04-02-09
2075
#105
LMAO ....
HE got the WEBSITE LINK to JohnMorrisons website from a GOOGLE ADWORDS ad from that website.
Check Reatedpicks.com for yourself... see if you see any CEMENT weblinks to johnmorrison on there. What a joke