Amazing how clueless people really are. Truly amazing.
CIA insider tells 911 truth. Time to re-examine your World-view, America!
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The Son Of SamSBR Rookie
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TheRiflemanSBR Hall of Famer
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Dark HorseSBR Posting Legend
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#109I don't know anybody who has researched 9/11 seriously, and from an objective perspective (the hardest thing for many), who has not concluded that the official account is, at the very least, full of holes. It is one of those areas where people have to come to their own conclusion. And the unfortunate reality is that a large section of the public is brainwashed by the mainstream media. We've seen this before. But in those days it was the Church that made the public believe that non-believers were heretics. Today that term has been replaced by 'conspiracy theorist'. So we have a standoff between blind believers and those who question. What else is new?Comment -
TheRiflemanSBR Hall of Famer
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#11012:57...." The Nazi were not fascists, they were SOCIALISTS!! And they come from the same group as COmmunists"Finally, the truth comes OUT!!!
I've always said this....this is what happens under socialism....they eventually take away ALL YOUR FREEDOMS!!!
ex- Nazi Hilmer Von Campe
he goes on to say " the American government TODAY is closer to Nazism than to our founding fathers"
PROFOUND!!Comment -
Dark HorseSBR Posting Legend
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#11112:57...." The Nazi were not fascists, they were SOCIALISTS!! And they come from the same group as COmmunists"Finally, the truth comes OUT!!!
I've always said this....this is what happens under socialism....they eventually take away ALL YOUR FREEDOMS!!!
ex- Nazi Hilmer Von Campe
he goes on to say " the American government TODAY is closer to Nazism than to our founding fathers"
PROFOUND!!Comment -
TheRiflemanSBR Hall of Famer
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#112We need to confront these leftists on the streets....a good start would be with the communist "occupy" leftist movement.....hand to hand combat.Comment -
milwaukee mikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#114The thousands of military personnel, politicians, engineers, etc that are on record here must all be stupid too.
Perhaps some of those thousands of cameras at the airports couldve taken a picture of a terrorist? Perhaps there could have been at least one eyewitness that saw a terrorist on 9/11? Hmm no proof i guess ill just take the tv's word for it...
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pronkRestricted User
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#115Mike, it's useless arguing with these "scholars".
Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984, commanding 15,000 intelligence and security personnel. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career. Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.- Video interview 6/28/09:
General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …
I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …
So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.
Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?
General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was notan airplane.
Interviewer: What made you believe that?
General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.
One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …
I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …
We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.
Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …
When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E - Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" http://www.undersiegemovie.com
- Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Capt. Davis, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.
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pronkRestricted User
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#116General Wesley Clark
General Wesley Clark, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. European Command, which included all American military activities in the 89 countries and territories of Europe, Africa, and the Middle East. Additionally, Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR), which granted him overall command of NATO military forces in Europe 1997 - 2001. Awarded Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart for his service in Viet Nam and numerous subsequent medals and citations. Graduated valedictorian of his class at West Point.- Video interview ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos 3/5/06: "I think when you look at this country, right now, we need a 2-party system that works. We need Congress to do its job. We need real investigation of some of the abuses of authority that are apparently going on at the Executive branch. ... We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time." http://securingamerica.com/node/692
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milwaukee mikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#117Actually quite the contrary pronk. Arguing with people caused me to do more research 10 years ago, fascinating topic. No matter how much evidence comes out some will still ignore it (funny how planes were hijacked yet cockpit doors never opened!)
Doesnt matter that 1/2 of the terrorists were alive after 9/11, doesnt matter that there wasnt an arab on any of the passenger lists, doesnt matter that larry silverstein and his 2 children all magically didnt show up to work that day with different lame excuses, etcComment -
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#118Link Not Working - Removed-)Comment -
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#119Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career. Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.- Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...
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TheRiflemanSBR Hall of Famer
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#120If a missile hit the Pentagon, and not a plane, where then are the people that were on the passenger manifest including the ex-solicitor generals wife (Ted Olsen) and TV commentator wife Barbara Olsen? WHERE ARE THEY?? THEIR FAMILIES WOULD LIKE THEM TO COME HOME!!
Freakin idiot truthers..LMFAO!! NOne of these videos support the idiot known as "pronk" case for a 9-11 conspiracy. And don't have the slightest idea why he posted the ex nazi youth video, as it doesn't help his case whatsoever......PRONK IS A TRUTHER MORON!!
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TheRiflemanSBR Hall of Famer
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pronkRestricted User
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Or how about simply whacked and cremated. You are too "gifted".Comment -
raydogSBR Hall of Famer
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#123so these people agreed to be part of butchering the towers, pentagon etc. and leave their families forever to go into witness protection?and for what, exactly? konck, do you not realize how incredibly fukkin stupid you sound? nothing personal man, but you have lost your marbles reading and watching all this whoreshit
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wikkidinsaneSBR Posting Legend
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#124hmm pronk posted some good information supporting his stance but rifleman just post hatred and bad words. Keep it coming pronkComment -
TheRiflemanSBR Hall of Famer
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#125
witness protection? witness to WHAT? whacked and cremated?? 300 people?? wtf are you talking about??
LIke i said before, YOU ARE A FREAKING IDIOT OF THE FIRST ORDER. Did they let you out of that straight jacket again for an hour....Your hour is up.
PRONK....PRINCE OF CLOWNSComment -
SnowballBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#128911 was aninsideIsraeli job.Comment -
MC PICKSSBR Hall of Famer
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#129911 was a real estate scam.Comment -
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#131nothing suprises meComment -
BettingWizardSBR Hall of Famer
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#132"If it's a big secret why has nobody leaked it?"
*somebody comes forward*
"If it's a big secret why has nobody leaked it?""Comment -
MatISBR Hall of Famer
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#133My uncle witnessed the Pentagon incident with his own eyes. I guess he saw wrong then, along with thousands of other people?Comment -
MatISBR Hall of Famer
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#134Yep. Imagine how much money could be made by coming forward with info on a cover up. A journalist would be hailed as a hero and become world famous and wealthy almost overnight. Yet there is nothing...Comment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#135Ok... let's just say our government was behind this entire thing... I just have one question and one question only:
What Was Our (Government's) Intention On Bringing The World Trade Center Buildings To The Ground?
Thank You.Comment -
TseaySBR High Roller
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#136Some of you people are fukkin morons. No wonder book makers make so much money, thier clients are idiots.Comment -
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