Jackie Robinson Sucked

[SamDiamond]

Kermit said it all. Thread ended right after Kermits post.
You're a motherfcking moron and a stupid racist. Robinson had the perfect sentence: “I’m not concerned with your liking or disliking me. All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.” But guys like you little monkeyboy are not even giving him that little bit of respect by calling him a "darkie". Typical guy from Philly, classless as shit. No suprise it were the Philadelphia Phillies calling him a '******' and to 'go back in the jungle'.
He was a great defensive player, the most aggressive and simply the best baserunner and had an absolutely sharp and perfect eye for walks. And that's not even half the list of things he was great on the field. And there was another very special reason to pick him, because he wasn't the overhumble black man, racist dumbfcks like yourself would have loved to see. He was 10 times the man you will ever be.
Funny thing is, that there are buildings, stadiums, stamps to honour him, the 42 is retired forever, he was the most popular man behind Bing Crosby in 1947 in the whole country and was listed on the list of 100 most influential people of the 20th century, Nr 44 of Baseballs best players of all times whereas you are a bloody nobody and not a single fck is given the day you are going to die.

Ziz said it better than I can.

The idea the Jackie Robinson "sucked"--- when as Mickey Mantle described--- every single at bat for Robinson on the road the worst of insults were hurled at him. People hung him effigy in every stadium, he had death threats in every single city he visited on the road, and still managed to hit over .300 for his career and averaged 166 hits over his 9 years in MLB. Give him that over 15 years----and he gets 2500 hits easily.

[stevenash]

.311 BA, 1500 hits.

What's so fukkin special about this guy other than the fact that he was a darkie?

You know something?
You have surpassed Rifleman as the most ignorant poster to grace SBR.

What's the problem with .311?
Secondly, his life time OBA is an unbelievable .409
I'll explain the .409 OBA for you. Every time in his career he got up to the plate, he reached first over 40 percent of the time. That puts him on the all time list for OBA career wise.
He *only*had 1518 hits in 10 seasons because he walked 740 times. Do the math Einstein.
What else? He was the dominant second baseman of his generation, he was a league leader in stolen bases, batting average, on base percentage, stolen bases, and sac bunts. He had 28 sac bunts one season, that's 28 times the bat was taken out of hands to move a base runner up successfully.

He averaged 16 homers a season, remarkable number for a middle infielder in that era.

He was Rookie of the Year, a MVP, a 6 time all star in 10 seasons.

Special enough so far?

I don't understand you internet trollers, I don't understand why guys like you and Rifleman, spend 2 hours a night, on a Friday night yet, starting crap for the sake of starting crap.

Empty life much?

I know if I had a few extra hours, I would spend it with my family, dogs, catch a game.....
I wouldn't spend all my free time proving to everybody on a message board that your'e an idiot.

Good luck to your Flyers in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Who you playing in the first round? Oh, my bad, you didn't qualify.

[Kermit]

I would also like to add that he was also one of the most patient hitters and one of the hardest players in history for a pitcher to strike out with only 291 strikeouts in 5,804 plate appearances. This strikeout ratio is absolutely insane when comparing to other great players of that time or anytime for that matter. To put this number into a better perspective, the great Mickey Mantle struck out 1,710 times out of 9,907 times coming up to the plate.

[tony_come]

Thank the white guy

Dodgers owner

[zizoudane10]

Thank the white guy

Dodgers owner

A fcking brave man.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

some savvy good guys and a frog in this thread.

[TheGoldenGoose]

You want the truth? Go to the source.

"The way I figured it, I was even with baseball and baseball with me. The game had done much for me, and I had done much for it."
~~~~~Jackie Robinson












Jackie Robinson

[InTheDrink]

philly abandoned thread once he was buried about 20 feet deep

he didnt stop when he buried himself....took a few posters to drive him further into the ground

[Russian Rocket]

philly abandoned thread once he was buried about 20 feet deep

he didnt stop when he buried himself....took a few posters to drive him further into the ground

nothing new here - PhillyPhag buried alive yet again

[statnerds]

you aren't smart.

you should start by comparing him to every other MLB player that had a 10 year career that started when they were 28 years old. if you aren't smart enough to realize players skills deteriorate as the age, then i can't help.

top 5 in avg 3 years straight, top 10 in avg 5 years straight.

so everyone beneath him over those years sucked too?

[Andy117]

.311 BA, 1500 hits.

What's so fukkin special about this guy other than the fact that he was a darkie?

You should stop following baseball if you think Jackie Robinson doesn't belong in the HOF on merit alone cause you really don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[Monitor-Tan]

Numbers aren't everything when being inducted into the hall of fame.

Strictly on numbers, Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame, but he's not. Why's that?

There's also integrity, and other intangibles you bring to the game..

[chargers4222]

I agree with OP...they could have picked any black dude as "the first" one to be in the majors and they would be what Jackie Robinson is today...he kind of just got born at the right time and impressed the right guy. Not really a transcending baseball player. Anyone who is known for stealing home is a novelty player.

[chargers4222]

You know something?
You have surpassed Rifleman as the most ignorant poster to grace SBR.

What's the problem with .311?
Secondly, his life time OBA is an unbelievable .409
I'll explain the .409 OBA for you. Every time in his career he got up to the plate, he reached first over 40 percent of the time. That puts him on the all time list for OBA career wise.
He *only*had 1518 hits in 10 seasons because he walked 740 times. Do the math Einstein.
What else? He was the dominant second baseman of his generation, he was a league leader in stolen bases, batting average, on base percentage, stolen bases, and sac bunts. He had 28 sac bunts one season, that's 28 times the bat was taken out of hands to move a base runner up successfully.

He averaged 16 homers a season, remarkable number for a middle infielder in that era.

He was Rookie of the Year, a MVP, a 6 time all star in 10 seasons.

Special enough so far?

I don't understand you internet trollers, I don't understand why guys like you and Rifleman, spend 2 hours a night, on a Friday night yet, starting crap for the sake of starting crap.

Empty life much?

I know if I had a few extra hours, I would spend it with my family, dogs, catch a game.....
I wouldn't spend all my free time proving to everybody on a message board that your'e an idiot.

Good luck to your Flyers in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Who you playing in the first round? Oh, my bad, you didn't qualify.

I'll never understand why losers like you say stuff like that...not everybody busts nuts and cries to the results of the pro sports team they root for like I'm sure you do. How does that improve your argument by saying a group of men neither of you have ever met or will ever be associated with missed the playoffs? Makes you look like a fanboy who ran out of relevant insults.

[PhillyFlyers]

I didn't abandon the thread. His numbers are not Hall worthy.

You can argue any other point but the fact remains his numbers are nothing special and he was not a special player.

To the idiots that brought up Ashburn and Mazeroski, they have nothing to do with this conversation but if you want to talk numbers, then I would say to you that if you are not a first ballot Hall of Famer then you don't deserve to get in the Hall.

The rest of you Robinson supporters are a bunch of brain-washed lemmings.

He is in the Hall because of the color of his skin. He was in the Major Leagues only because of the color of his skin.

These are the facts.

[SamDiamond]

I didn't abandon the thread. His numbers are not Hall worthy.

You can argue any other point but the fact remains his numbers are nothing special and he was not a special player.

To the idiots that brought up Ashburn and Mazeroski, they have nothing to do with this conversation but if you want to talk numbers, then I would say to you that if you are not a first ballot Hall of Famer then you don't deserve to get in the Hall.

The rest of you Robinson supporters are a bunch of brain-washed lemmings.

He is in the Hall because of the color of his skin. He was in the Major Leagues only because of the color of his skin.

These are the facts.

That isn't a fact you fukin moron.

It's an opinion.

I have a "fact" for you. You're a fuking idiot. Stick to bigfoot, ghosts, and aliens. Let the adults talk sports.

By the way, when is Dom Brown going to turn around this 2013 season and be a 5-tool player again?

[Kermit]

I didn't abandon the thread. His numbers are not Hall worthy.

You can argue any other point but the fact remains his numbers are nothing special and he was not a special player.

To the idiots that brought up Ashburn and Mazeroski, they have nothing to do with this conversation but if you want to talk numbers, then I would say to you that if you are not a first ballot Hall of Famer then you don't deserve to get in the Hall.

The rest of you Robinson supporters are a bunch of brain-washed lemmings.

He is in the Hall because of the color of his skin. He was in the Major Leagues only because of the color of his skin.

These are the facts.

Well, considering the fact that you keep talking about numbers and stats, I would think that those guys have everything to do with this conversation. Especially since their stats are far worse.

[Kermit]

I agree with OP...they could have picked any black dude as "the first" one to be in the majors and they would be what Jackie Robinson is today...he kind of just got born at the right time and impressed the right guy. Not really a transcending baseball player. Anyone who is known for stealing home is a novelty player.

So any black guy off of the street was going to have a career average of .311, an on base percentage well over .400, and strikeout an average of only 29 times a year?

Yeah, ok.

[SamDiamond]

Well, considering the fact that you keep talking about numbers and stats, I would think that those guys have everything to do with this conversation. Especially since their stats are far worse.

Kerm-- don't try and use common sense with Philly. It just confuses him.

[PhillyFlyers]

So any black guy off of the street was going to have a career average of .311, an on base percentage well over .400, and strikeout an average of only 29 times a year?

Yeah, ok.

They have NOTHING to do with this conversation.

Ashburn and Mazeroski were NEVER brought into the game of baseball or inducted into the Hall on the basis of their race like Robinson was.

You continue to be the head lemming of the Robinson supporters. What's so special about his NUMBERS?

[SamDiamond]

They have NOTHING to do with this conversation.

Ashburn and Mazeroski were NEVER brought into the game of baseball or inducted into the Hall on the basis of their race like Robinson was.

You continue to be the head lemming of the Robinson supporters. What's so special about his NUMBERS?

Okay. I'll try and explain it to you slowly.

You're right. Ashburn and Maz were not inducted because of their race, they were inducted because of their numbers.

AND.

Robinson's NUMBERS ARE BETTER THAN BOTH ASHBURN AND MAZEROSKI.

Follow? Do you need it to be further explained to you?

[PhillyFlyers]

Okay. I'll try and explain it to you slowly.

You're right. Ashburn and Maz were not inducted because of their race, they were inducted because of their numbers.

AND.

Robinson's NUMBERS ARE BETTER THAN BOTH ASHBURN AND MAZEROSKI.

Follow? Do you need it to be further explained to you?

Are you fukkin nuts?

Ashburn had over 2,500 hits. More than a thousand more than Robinson.

[SamDiamond]

are you fukkin nuts?

Ashburn had over 2,500 hits. More than a thousand more than robinson.

because he played 6 more seasons you fukin retard!

[PhillyFlyers]

because he played 8 more seasons you fukin retard!

Therefore had a longer career and better numbers than Robinson YOU FUKKING IDIOT!

[SamDiamond]

Therefore had a longer career and better numbers than Robinson YOU FUKKING IDIOT!

No fukface. Robinson WAS NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY IN THE MAJORS UNTIL HE WAS 28.

Jesus Christ are you stupid.

Here's one for you.

Ashburn had 1278 hits from the age of 28 (When Robinson was allowed to come into MLB) forward.

Robinson had 1518 hits from age 28 on.

Suk on that one, and let's see you try and explain it.

In fact, fukface.

There IS NOT ONE OFFENSIVE CATEGORY that Ashburn eclipsed Robinson when you compare them from age 28 until they retired.

[PhillyFlyers]

No fukface. Robinson WAS NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY IN THE MAJORS UNTIL HE WAS 28.

Jesus Christ are you stupid.

Here's one for you.

Ashburn had 1278 hits from the age of 28 (When Robinson was allowed to come into MLB) forward.

Robinson had 1518 hits from age 28 on.

Suk on that one, and let's see you try and explain it.

You are a FUKKING MORON!

How many times was Robinson an All-star genius? Ashburn was a 6 time All-Star.

How many batting titles did Robinson win? AShburn won two of them.

Ask yourself this and then look at the numbers before spewing ignorance all over this forum fukking nitwit.

[Kermit]

You are a FUKKING MORON!

How many times was Robinson an All-star genius? Ashburn was a 6 time All-Star.

How many batting titles did Robinson win? AShburn won two of them.

Ask yourself this and then look at the numbers before spewing ignorance all over this forum fukking nitwit.

Robinson was an allstar 6 times in less years played and won the batting title once.

[SamDiamond]

I don't expect Philly to ever admit he was wrong, but here is a perfect example of why he's a fukin moron.

These are the career stats of both Ashburn and Robinson from age 28 until they retired.

Ashburn 670 runs, 16 home runs, 265 RBI, 109 SBs, and 706 BB

Robinson 947 runs, 137 home runs, 734 RBI, 197 SBs, and 740 BB.

Case fuking closed.

[SamDiamond]

You are a FUKKING MORON!

How many times was Robinson an All-star genius? Ashburn was a 6 time All-Star.

How many batting titles did Robinson win? AShburn won two of them.

Ask yourself this and then look at the numbers before spewing ignorance all over this forum fukking nitwit.

Robinson was a 6 time all-star, Rookie of the Year, 1 batting title, and ONE MVP.

How many MVP awards does Ashburn have?

[PhillyFlyers]

Robinson was a 6 time all-star, Rookie of the Year, 1 batting title, and ONE MVP.

How many MVP awards does Ashburn have?

So he has less batting titles than Ashburn, worse numbers overall, a shorter career, less hits, but somehow Robinson is the better player with better numbers according to you.

What a nitwit you are.

[Kermit]

So he has less batting titles than Ashburn, worse numbers overall, a shorter career, less hits, but somehow Robinson is the better player with better numbers according to you.

What a nitwit you are.

Overall, his numbers are better genius. Plus he won an MVP, something which Ashburn never did in his 16 seasons.

[SamDiamond]

So he has less batting titles than Ashburn, worse numbers overall, a shorter career, less hits, but somehow Robinson is the better player with better numbers according to you.

What a nitwit you are.

Nice dodge. I love how you ignore the fact that Robinson wasn't allowed to play MLB until he was 28.

Because, as I proved-- Ashburn couldn't carry Robinson's crusty jock when you compare their careers from the age of 28 until they retired.

[Kermit]

Robinson also has something that Ashburn doesn't have. A world series championship.

[PhillyFlyers]

Robinson also has something that Ashburn doesn't have. A world series championship.

LMAO shows how much of a nitwit you are.

That's a team accomplishment not an individual one.

[PhillyFlyers]

Nice dodge. I love how you ignore the fact that Robinson wasn't allowed to play MLB until he was 28.

Because, as I proved-- Ashburn couldn't carry Robinson's crusty jock when you compare their careers from the age of 28 until they retired.

You're an idiot.

It's somehow Ashburn's and Mazeroski's fault Robinson didn't get to the big leagues until he was 28?

You tried to say he had better numbers. He didn't.

What the fukk is the pointless point you're trying to make here moron?