Guns are the leading cause of death for American Children..thanks NRA/GOP

[Greget]

https://everytownresearch.org/graph/firearms-are-the-leading-cause-of-death-for-american-children-and-teens/

Not much better for the rest of us.
Every day, 120 Americans are killed with guns

[b1slickguy]

18 and 19 year olds aren't children.
Legally they are adults.
Why would 18 and 19 year olds be included?

Take a lap!

[Greget]

18 and 19 year olds aren't children.
Legally they are adults.
Why would 18 and 19 year olds be included?

Take a lap!

4 years to 14 years as well... learn to read

[b1slickguy]

4 years to 14 years as well... learn to read

From the webpage you posted:


Source: CDC, WONDER, Underlying Cause of Death, Injury Mechanism & All Other Leading Causes, 2021. Ages 1–19.Last updated: 2.13.2023


You're the boy who cried "wolf" and nobody believes you anymore.


Take another lap!

[rkelly110]

[BOA12]

Make America Like Texas (MALT)

aabott/cruz 2024

Vote red UR children will B dead.

[Greget]

From the webpage you posted:


Source: CDC, WONDER, Underlying Cause of Death, Injury Mechanism & All Other Leading Causes, 2021. Ages 1–19.Last updated: 2.13.2023


You're the boy who cried "wolf" and nobody believes you anymore.


Take another lap!

So 1-19, doesn't include kids... Dumb mutherfker, I can tell you don't have kids. Thank God.

[Emily_Haines]

Let us know when you have 2/3's of congress or 3/4's of state legislators

until then you need to STFU on your gun ban

[b1slickguy]

You used a study with flawed data and you know it. 18 and 19 year olds are legally adults. Adults were purposely included to fluff the numbers and you fell for it. The majority of the 18 and 19 year olds killed by guns are the result of 'hood violence and gangbangers who don't follow the gun laws already in place.

[rkelly110]

You used a study with flawed data and you know it. 18 and 19 year olds are legally adults. Adults were purposely included to fluff the numbers and you fell for it. The majority of the 18 and 19 year olds killed by guns are the result of 'hood violence and gangbangers who don't follow the gun laws already in place.

[Greget]

You used a study with flawed data and you know it. 18 and 19 year olds are legally adults. Adults were purposely included to fluff the numbers and you fell for it. The majority of the 18 and 19 year olds killed by guns are the result of 'hood violence and gangbangers who don't follow the gun laws already in place.

Answer the question putz. Does the age group 1-19 include children, or not? These are just the statistics, which lumps children and teens (yes that include 18 and 19 year olds) into one group. Nothing about that is "flawed" simply because you don't like the facts. Guns are the leading cause of death for kids and teens in America. Just a fact. Regardless of the context, hood violence, or redneck violence, or native american violence, the culprit is still guns. In fact, most white trash (you) violence is made more deadly by guns.

[Greget]

Let us know when you have 2/3's of congress or 3/4's of state legislators

until then you need to STFU on your gun ban

Gun ban? Are you drunk again?

Most Americans support violent history checks for people trying to buy guns. Why are you against that?

[Auto Donk]

guns were the leading cause of death for these, as well:

















well, not "guns", but rather one gun, that being the 7mm mag in a couple of the photos above......

[VeggieDog]

Now break down all the U.S. gun violence statistics by race and you'll see the real problem.

[slewfan]

You used a study with flawed data and you know it. 18 and 19 year olds are legally adults. Adults were purposely included to fluff the numbers and you fell for it. The majority of the 18 and 19 year olds killed by guns are the result of 'hood violence and gangbangers who don't follow the gun laws already in place.

Gregslime is a flawed, gay porn freak. Not just the data he reports.
He is a nasty slimy type guy who weasels his way around facts and truth..

[rkelly110]

Now break down all the U.S. gun violence statistics by race and you'll see the real problem.

[b1slickguy]

Now break down all the U.S. gun violence statistics by race and you'll see the real problem.

The same goes for gun violence committed by legal gun owners verses those who possessed guns illegally.

[Mike Huntertz]

Now break down all the U.S. gun violence statistics by race and you'll see the real problem.

Bingo!

[slewfan]

Race and illegal gun ownership crime does not figure into the democrat statistics. It simply blows apart their agenda of propaganda and misinformation.

GregSlime won’t show his face in his own thread again. He is once again taken to the cleaners…

[guitarjosh]

18 and 19 year olds aren't children.
Legally they are adults.
Why would 18 and 19 year olds be included?

Take a lap!

There were 4733 deaths cited in the OP link, yet 2143 or 45.2778% were people aged 18-19. Of those 4733 deaths, 363 were aged 11 and under. Unless there's a massive spike in gun deaths when people go from 17 to 18, it's safe to say most child gun deaths cited in the OP are among kids who are old enough to drive.

Of the 2590 children deaths left, 36% or 932 were suicide, and 129 were accidents. I don't know the plan to eliminate suicide by gun since most people who claim they're pushing for "Common sense gun reforms" also claim they don't want to ban all guns. Kind of hard to eliminate suicide with a gun when you can still have a gun lying around the house.

46% of all gun deaths were black children and teens, yet 84% (1001 of 2590) were homicides, compared to 34% for white children and teens.

This is one of those "studies" that's really just propaganda designed to create a sense of urgency in people so they'll do something stupid.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2023/04/06/gun-deaths-among-us-kids-rose-50-percent-in-two-years

[rkelly110]

There were 4733 deaths cited in the OP link, yet 2143 or 45.2778% were people aged 18-19. Of those 4733 deaths, 363 were aged 11 and under. Unless there's a massive spike in gun deaths when people go from 17 to 18, it's safe to say most child gun deaths cited in the OP are among kids who are old enough to drive.

Of the 2590 children deaths left, 36% or 932 were suicide, and 129 were accidents. I don't know the plan to eliminate suicide by gun since most people who claim they're pushing for "Common sense gun reforms" also claim they don't want to ban all guns. Kind of hard to eliminate suicide with a gun when you can still have a gun lying around the house.

46% of all gun deaths were black children and teens, yet 84% (1001 of 2590) were homicides, compared to 34% for white children and teens.

This is one of those "studies" that's really just propaganda designed to create a sense of urgency in people so they'll do something stupid.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...t-in-two-years

[Greget]

There were 4733 deaths cited in the OP link, yet 2143 or 45.2778% were people aged 18-19. Of those 4733 deaths, 363 were aged 11 and under. Unless there's a massive spike in gun deaths when people go from 17 to 18, it's safe to say most child gun deaths cited in the OP are among kids who are old enough to drive.

Of the 2590 children deaths left, 36% or 932 were suicide, and 129 were accidents. I don't know the plan to eliminate suicide by gun since most people who claim they're pushing for "Common sense gun reforms" also claim they don't want to ban all guns. Kind of hard to eliminate suicide with a gun when you can still have a gun lying around the house.

46% of all gun deaths were black children and teens, yet 84% (1001 of 2590) were homicides, compared to 34% for white children and teens.

This is one of those "studies" that's really just propaganda designed to create a sense of urgency in people so they'll do something stupid.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...t-in-two-years

Josh have you seen the school shooting statistics, is that just propaganda too? You are good at cherry picking data and being outright disingenuous, but can you tell the truth? Most Americans support violent history checks before people get guns. Most Americans understand that America is a country with a serious gun problem and you can cut and slice this anyway you want, but other countries don't have our problem with guns, and the reason is simple, they have common sense gun laws. It's a FACT that guns are now the leading cause of deaths for kids and teens aged 1-19. You can chose the losing side of history that thinks this is OK, or you can join the rest of us who want to do something about it.

And what exactly are you trying to say with the black vs white stuff you like to peddle in?

[guitarjosh]

Josh have you seen the school shooting statistics, is that just propaganda too? You are good at cherry picking data and being outright disingenuous, but can you tell the truth? Most Americans support violent history checks before people get guns. Most Americans understand that America is a country with a serious gun problem and you can cut and slice this anyway you want, but other countries don't have our problem with guns, and the reason is simple, they have common sense gun laws. It's a FACT that guns are now the leading cause of deaths for kids and teens aged 1-19. You can chose the losing side of history that thinks this is OK, or you can join the rest of us who want to do something about it.

And what exactly are you trying to say with the black vs white stuff you like to peddle in?

Statistics that count an adult driving to a school overnight and killing himself as a school shooting is propaganda. I'm not cherry-picking anything, I'm adding context, something you didn't do. If you want to look at statistics, you'd see that semi-automatic mag fed rifles are responsible for a few hundred gun deaths a year. Banning them will at best be a drop in the bucket. We already have background checks for people buying a gun to see if they have a violent history, dishonorable discharge, felony convictions, and it is a felony to lie on that form. I have a better idea than checking to see if they have a violent history: if they're too dangerous to have a gun, they're too dangerous to be in public and should be locked up.

A lot of other countries have a serious problem with guns, including countries with much more restrictive gun laws than America. Explain why Constitutional Carry states like Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine have a significantly lower gun homicide rate than Chicago or D.C., which have very restrictive gun laws.

Thanks for admitting that your numbers include legal adults. What is your plan? When almost 36% of children gun deaths in 2021 were from suicide, how do you stop that? Are you wanting to ban all guns? Any gun that wil kill a large animal or defend against people trying to physically harm you will also cause suicide.

I don't peddle in black vs white stuff at all, I was literally posting numbers from Pew Research. Does the fact that over 38% of gun deaths were black children getting gunned down bother you at all? Do you really think that access to guns is the main problem they face, and if that access to guns would be cut off, their problems would be eliminated? If you really believe that, I can't help but shake my head, you're quite naive.

[jackpot269]

Statistics that count an adult driving to a school overnight and killing himself as a school shooting is propaganda. I'm not cherry-picking anything, I'm adding context, something you didn't do. If you want to look at statistics, you'd see that semi-automatic mag fed rifles are responsible for a few hundred gun deaths a year. Banning them will at best be a drop in the bucket. We already have background checks for people buying a gun to see if they have a violent history, dishonorable discharge, felony convictions, and it is a felony to lie on that form. I have a better idea than checking to see if they have a violent history: if they're too dangerous to have a gun, they're too dangerous to be in public and should be locked up.

A lot of other countries have a serious problem with guns, including countries with much more restrictive gun laws than America. Explain why Constitutional Carry states like Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine have a significantly lower gun homicide rate than Chicago or D.C., which have very restrictive gun laws.

Thanks for admitting that your numbers include legal adults. What is your plan? When almost 36% of children gun deaths in 2021 were from suicide, how do you stop that? Are you wanting to ban all guns? Any gun that wil kill a large animal or defend against people trying to physically harm you will also cause suicide.

I don't peddle in black vs white stuff at all, I was literally posting numbers from Pew Research. Does the fact that over 38% of gun deaths were black children getting gunned down bother you at all? Do you really think that access to guns is the main problem they face, and if that access to guns would be cut off, their problems would be eliminated? If you really believe that, I can't help but shake my head, you're quite naive.

What's it worth, a child's life? What's saving one worth, 10, 20, 50,.
One child going home that would not have, may not matter to most.
Until it's your child, sister or brother, nephew or niece .
Or maybe it would not matter then.
I do not pretend to know the best answer, but never say there is nothing that can be done, like the cowards that make up the Tennessee state government.

[guitarjosh]

What's it worth, a child's life? What's saving one worth, 10, 20, 50,.
One child going home that would not have, may not matter to most.
Until it's your child, sister or brother, nephew or niece .
Or maybe it would not matter then.
I do not pretend to know the best answer, but never say there is nothing that can be done, like the cowards that make up the Tennessee state government.

How many lives and lives worth living are you giving up?

I'll tell you this much, there's no way I'm going to unilaterally disarm in the face of an enemy who flippantly calls me a traitor (someone guilty of a capital offense) or Nazi (someone whom our military hunted down and killed on sight) or an American Taliban terrorist (our military also had a policy of hunting down and killing the Afghanistan version on sight as well). I give up my guns, you evil monsters will have me in the internment camp faster than you can get the serial number that is my new name tattooed on my forearm.

[Greget]

Statistics that count an adult driving to a school overnight and killing himself as a school shooting is propaganda. I'm not cherry-picking anything, I'm adding context, something you didn't do. If you want to look at statistics, you'd see that semi-automatic mag fed rifles are responsible for a few hundred gun deaths a year. Banning them will at best be a drop in the bucket. We already have background checks for people buying a gun to see if they have a violent history, dishonorable discharge, felony convictions, and it is a felony to lie on that form. I have a better idea than checking to see if they have a violent history: if they're too dangerous to have a gun, they're too dangerous to be in public and should be locked up.

A lot of other countries have a serious problem with guns, including countries with much more restrictive gun laws than America. Explain why Constitutional Carry states like Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine have a significantly lower gun homicide rate than Chicago or D.C., which have very restrictive gun laws.

Thanks for admitting that your numbers include legal adults. What is your plan? When almost 36% of children gun deaths in 2021 were from suicide, how do you stop that? Are you wanting to ban all guns? Any gun that wil kill a large animal or defend against people trying to physically harm you will also cause suicide.

I don't peddle in black vs white stuff at all, I was literally posting numbers from Pew Research. Does the fact that over 38% of gun deaths were black children getting gunned down bother you at all? Do you really think that access to guns is the main problem they face, and if that access to guns would be cut off, their problems would be eliminated? If you really believe that, I can't help but shake my head, you're quite naive.

It's important to consider the context and nuances of the argument you've presented. While it's true that not all gun-related incidents are equal, it's essential to address the broader issue of gun violence and not get caught up your cherry picked "context". The devastating impact of school shootings in America cannot be overstated. The pain and trauma experienced by survivors, families, and communities are immense and long-lasting, leaving deep emotional scars that never truly heal.

Focusing on the number of deaths caused by semi-automatic rifles may minimize the broader issue of gun violence. It's important to consider the overall impact of firearms on public safety, including deaths and injuries caused by handguns, shotguns, and other firearms.

While background checks are in place, there are still loopholes that allow people to obtain firearms without proper scrutiny. For example, private sales and gun shows often do not require background checks, which can allow dangerous individuals to access firearms. Strengthening background checks and closing loopholes could be more effective in reducing gun violence.

Comparing gun violence rates between states or countries can be misleading. Many factors contribute to differences in gun violence rates, such as socioeconomic conditions, population density, and law enforcement efforts. Comparing states or countries with different gun laws does not necessarily establish a causal relationship between gun control and gun violence.

Regarding the issue of suicides, it's important to recognize that access to firearms can increase the likelihood of successful suicide attempts. Reducing access to firearms, along with mental health support and education, can help prevent suicides.It's important to address the fact that gun violence disproportionately affects minority communities. However, it's essential to recognize that reducing access to firearms is only one part of the solution. Addressing the root causes of violence in these communities, such as poverty, education, and systemic racism, is also necessary.

Some of the points raised in the argument have merit, most do not, and they do not negate the need for a comprehensive approach to reducing gun violence. This includes implementing stronger gun control measures, addressing the root causes of violence, and providing mental health support to those in need.

[Greget]

How many lives and lives worth living are you giving up?

I'll tell you this much, there's no way I'm going to unilaterally disarm in the face of an enemy who flippantly calls me a traitor (someone guilty of a capital offense) or Nazi (someone whom our military hunted down and killed on sight) or an American Taliban terrorist (our military also had a policy of hunting down and killing the Afghanistan version on sight as well). I give up my guns, you evil monsters will have me in the internment camp faster than you can get the serial number that is my new name tattooed on my forearm.

I always respected you Josh, but you lean into personal attacks when you're losing the argument. At the end of the day, we live in a democracy and you don't unilaterally decide things for mine and other good and decent American families that just want to send our kids to school without getting shot in the face learning to read.

The tide is turning on the gun debate. Americans support taking guns out of the hands of violent criminals and the mentally unstable far right lunatics that shoot up schools on what seems like a daily basis now.

[rkelly110]

Statistics that count an adult driving to a school overnight and killing himself as a school shooting is propaganda. I'm not cherry-picking anything, I'm adding context, something you didn't do. If you want to look at statistics, you'd see that semi-automatic mag fed rifles are responsible for a few hundred gun deaths a year. Banning them will at best be a drop in the bucket. We already have background checks for people buying a gun to see if they have a violent history, dishonorable discharge, felony convictions, and it is a felony to lie on that form. I have a better idea than checking to see if they have a violent history: if they're too dangerous to have a gun, they're too dangerous to be in public and should be locked up.

A lot of other countries have a serious problem with guns, including countries with much more restrictive gun laws than America. Explain why Constitutional Carry states like Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine have a significantly lower gun homicide rate than Chicago or D.C., which have very restrictive gun laws.

Thanks for admitting that your numbers include legal adults. What is your plan? When almost 36% of children gun deaths in 2021 were from suicide, how do you stop that? Are you wanting to ban all guns? Any gun that wil kill a large animal or defend against people trying to physically harm you will also cause suicide.

I don't peddle in black vs white stuff at all, I was literally posting numbers from Pew Research. Does the fact that over 38% of gun deaths were black children getting gunned down bother you at all? Do you really think that access to guns is the main problem they face, and if that access to guns would be cut off, their problems would be eliminated? If you really believe that, I can't help but shake my head, you're quite naive.

[guitarjosh]

It's important to consider the context and nuances of the argument you've presented. While it's true that not all gun-related incidents are equal, it's essential to address the broader issue of gun violence and not get caught up your cherry picked "context". The devastating impact of school shootings in America cannot be overstated. The pain and trauma experienced by survivors, families, and communities are immense and long-lasting, leaving deep emotional scars that never truly heal.

Focusing on the number of deaths caused by semi-automatic rifles may minimize the broader issue of gun violence. It's important to consider the overall impact of firearms on public safety, including deaths and injuries caused by handguns, shotguns, and other firearms.

While background checks are in place, there are still loopholes that allow people to obtain firearms without proper scrutiny. For example, private sales and gun shows often do not require background checks, which can allow dangerous individuals to access firearms. Strengthening background checks and closing loopholes could be more effective in reducing gun violence.

Comparing gun violence rates between states or countries can be misleading. Many factors contribute to differences in gun violence rates, such as socioeconomic conditions, population density, and law enforcement efforts. Comparing states or countries with different gun laws does not necessarily establish a causal relationship between gun control and gun violence.

Regarding the issue of suicides, it's important to recognize that access to firearms can increase the likelihood of successful suicide attempts. Reducing access to firearms, along with mental health support and education, can help prevent suicides.It's important to address the fact that gun violence disproportionately affects minority communities. However, it's essential to recognize that reducing access to firearms is only one part of the solution. Addressing the root causes of violence in these communities, such as poverty, education, and systemic racism, is also necessary.

Some of the points raised in the argument have merit, most do not, and they do not negate the need for a comprehensive approach to reducing gun violence. This includes implementing stronger gun control measures, addressing the root causes of violence, and providing mental health support to those in need.

I'm curious if a bot wrote this. There are no actual policy ideas, just fluff, and platitudes. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS

I always respected you Josh, but you lean into personal attacks when you're losing the argument. At the end of the day, we live in a democracy and you don't unilaterally decide things for mine and other good and decent American families that just want to send our kids to school without getting shot in the face learning to read.

The tide is turning on the gun debate. Americans support taking guns out of the hands of violent criminals and the mentally unstable far right lunatics that shoot up schools on what seems like a daily basis now.

Yeah, you really respected me here, saying I deserve to be killed with a bullet to the head:

Josh thinks his money will save him. The first thing the people he hirers to protect his silly ass do?

Put a bullet in his worthless head. LOL

A good ending for a cuck like Josh

And you wonder while I'll fight monsters like you to the death. BTW, I guess you're admitting all the accusations of being called racist, sexist, Islamophobic, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, toothless, knuckle-dragging, uneducated, illiterate, inbred, hillbilly, teabagger, treasonous, Nazi, white supremacist, American Taliban, terrorist..well, hopefully, you get the picture, is proof the left is losing the argument.

Lastly, my rights aren't determined by a majority vote. All the horrible oppression America has done in the past to American Indians and slaves, and who can forget FDR's treatment of the Japanese was done through the democratic process. The 2nd Amendment isn't just about taking out tyrannical politicians but taking out their supporters like you.

[guitarjosh]

I'll take that over this, what you want to happen to people like me, any day of the week.

[MaltedHopsFrenzy]

There were 4733 deaths cited in the OP link, yet 2143 or 45.2778% were people aged 18-19. Of those 4733 deaths, 363 were aged 11 and under. Unless there's a massive spike in gun deaths when people go from 17 to 18, it's safe to say most child gun deaths cited in the OP are among kids who are old enough to drive.

Of the 2590 children deaths left, 36% or 932 were suicide, and 129 were accidents. I don't know the plan to eliminate suicide by gun since most people who claim they're pushing for "Common sense gun reforms" also claim they don't want to ban all guns. Kind of hard to eliminate suicide with a gun when you can still have a gun lying around the house.

46% of all gun deaths were black children and teens, yet 84% (1001 of 2590) were homicides, compared to 34% for white children and teens.

This is one of those "studies" that's really just propaganda designed to create a sense of urgency in people so they'll do something stupid.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...t-in-two-years

For the millionth time, focusing on strong family values and education solves a lot of this - but, not ‘sexy’ enough for the ‘woke’ Tards when they can’t blame anybody and have to take a hard look in the mirror…..

[jackpot269]

guns were the leading cause of death for these, as well:

















well, not "guns", but rather one gun, that being the 7mm mag in a couple of the photos above......

kill deer not kids!!

[jackpot269]

How many lives and lives worth living are you giving up?

I'll tell you this much, there's no way I'm going to unilaterally disarm in the face of an enemy who flippantly calls me a traitor (someone guilty of a capital offense) or Nazi (someone whom our military hunted down and killed on sight) or an American Taliban terrorist (our military also had a policy of hunting down and killing the Afghanistan version on sight as well). I give up my guns, you evil monsters will have me in the internment camp faster than you can get the serial number that is my new name tattooed on my forearm.

So you are of the opinion that mass shooting will happen and there no need in trying to stop them?

The word guns did not appear in my post once, or anything about disarming anyone, I don't understand what your post has to do with kids being killed all across our country.

I'm an evil monster now that's funny!!

[guitarjosh]

So you are of the opinion that mass shooting will happen and there no need in trying to stop them?

The word guns did not appear in my post once, or anything about disarming anyone, I don't understand what your post has to do with kids being killed all across our country.

I'm an evil monster now that's funny!!

Oh, there's a need to try to stop mass shootings, like I wrote earlier, if you're too dangerous to have a gun in your hand you're too dangerous to be in public.

You posted in a thread about guns being the leading cause of death for children then referenced the cowardly Tennessee government not doing anything to stop kids getting killed.

If you are trying to foment violence against people over differences in taxes or even gun policy, you're a monster.

[Thor4140]

I'm curious if a bot wrote this. There are no actual policy ideas, just fluff, and platitudes. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS


Yeah, you really respected me here, saying I deserve to be killed with a bullet to the head:



And you wonder while I'll fight monsters like you to the death. BTW, I guess you're admitting all the accusations of being called racist, sexist, Islamophobic, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, toothless, knuckle-dragging, uneducated, illiterate, inbred, hillbilly, teabagger, treasonous, Nazi, white supremacist, American Taliban, terrorist..well, hopefully, you get the picture, is proof the left is losing the argument.

Lastly, my rights aren't determined by a majority vote. All the horrible oppression America has done in the past to American Indians and slaves, and who can forget FDR's treatment of the Japanese was done through the democratic process. The 2nd Amendment isn't just about taking out tyrannical politicians but taking out their supporters like you.

Can you find me a graph that might show how to get thicker skin