The Wall

[RoyBacon]

Vast majority (according to US gov't stats) of detained illegals came over legally and overstayed their v-i-sa. No wall stops that.

More important. POTUS said Mexico would pay for it. He didn't say we'd figure it out with them when we do creative trade accounting. He said he'd MAKE them pay. It was a staple of his campaigning.

Make it part of the trade war if you want. But he promised they'd pay for -- at least keep that promise.

That's a libtard fake news talking point.

What is 100% true is around 1500 illegals cross the border illegally each and every day. Try this website; www.google.com

[jtoler]

donald could have campaigned on saving snow leopards and these idiots would have ran with it they just wanted a candidate, any candidate to win so they could come back here and prance around, I can name 100 things more important than your wall but those things will never be discussed

[RoyBacon]

100?

7 of the top 20 dangerous and volatile countries on the planet are below the southern border.

[DwightShrute]

donald could have campaigned on saving snow leopards and these idiots would have ran with it they just wanted a candidate, any candidate to win so they could come back here and prance around, I can name 100 things more important than your wall but those things will never be discussed

such as

[Nitrogen]

That's a libtard fake news talking point.

Quoting the 239 pound (according to his doctor) POTUS is now fake news?

Like I said - he made the promise, go make Mexico pay for it.

[RoyBacon]

Obama said he would pass immigration in his first 100 days.

[Nitrogen]

Obama said he would pass immigration in his first 100 days.

I can provide pages of actual quotes and videos from Trump saying he'd build the wall and that it won't cost the taxpayers since Mexico will pay ("and they'll like it")

I remember Obama saying he'd have a bill presented (on immigration reform) in his first year (discussions but no bill was voted), but don't recall the promise of having one passed in the first 100 days.

Happen to have a link for your claim?

[RoyBacon]

I can provide pages of actual quotes and videos from Trump saying he'd build the wall and that it won't cost the taxpayers since Mexico will pay ("and they'll like it")

I remember Obama saying he'd have a bill presented (on immigration reform) in his first year (discussions but no bill was voted), but don't recall the promise of having one passed in the first 100 days.

Happen to have a link for your claim?

He had a super majority as you probably recall. No bill the 1st 100 days, 1st year or any time else.

Mexico is going to pay more to trade with the US. But it's up to tax payers to protect their borders no matter what campaign promise was made.

Keep in mind Europe absorbed millions of Syrians. We could have a situation many times larger. You could see a cut in welfare payments . Libs figure they dont pay taxes so why should they care? If we get millions coming in there could be major cuts to welfare.

[Nitrogen]

Mexico is going to pay more to trade with the US. But it's up to tax payers to protect their borders no matter what campaign promise was made.

"no matter what campaign promise was made"

Well that pretty much clears that up.

Except for "Obama said he would pass immigration in his first 100 days."

You never provided proof he said that.

For a group who cries "fake news" at everything they don't like, an actual quote that can be cited shouldn't be too hard...right....?

[RoyBacon]

"no matter what campaign promise was made"

Well that pretty much clears that up.

Except for "Obama said he would pass immigration in his first 100 days."

You never provided proof he said that.

For a group who cries "fake news" at everything they don't like, an actual quote that can be cited shouldn't be too hard...right....?

This reminds me of debate on the economy. You ask a lib what is their plan or ideas to grow the economy you might as well be asking a toad.

But let's give it a shot...

What is your solution to stem the 800,000 illegals that cross the border?

Here is a left wing news op that says 40k/month are caught. How many are not caught? No one knows. Safe to assume more do not get caught than get caught.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/despite-trump-admin-crackdown-illegal-immigration-border-increased-may-n880686

[JIBBBY]

The wall is coming and Mexico will pay for it indirectly.. Trump keeps his campaign promises as we are seeing now with Trade tariffs.. Evening up the playing field.. Trump has almost 7 years to build the wall.. It's coming!!! Parts of it being built now in San Diego..

Trumps own worlds just 3 weeks ago.. http://thehill.com/latino/390380-con...climbing-plate

[vitterd]

The wall is coming and Mexico will pay for it indirectly.. Trump keeps his campaign promises as we are seeing now with Trade tariffs.. Evening up the playing field.. Trump has almost 7 years to build the wall.. It's coming!!! Parts of it being built now in San Diego..

Trumps own worlds just 3 weeks ago.. http://thehill.com/latino/390380-con...climbing-plate

Hysterical.

Trumps own words....as if that means anything

[Nitrogen]

This reminds me of debate on the economy. You ask a lib what is their plan or ideas to grow the economy you might as well be asking a toad.

But let's give it a shot...

What is your solution to stem the 800,000 illegals that cross the border?

Here is a left wing news op that says 40k/month are caught. How many are not caught? No one knows. Safe to assume more do not get caught than get caught.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ed-may-n880686

You stated a claim. I asked for a source.

No source provided. A proud liar you are.

All you need to do is walk in on 15 year old girls, then act like you want to f\*\*k your daughter. You could be President!

[JIBBBY]

Hysterical.

Trumps own words....as if that means anything

Wonder what you will be saying about Trump when the wall if finally built and trade is more fair between Countries?

I sure didn't read you say that's great that Trump went to meet with North Korea and Kim and things seem better now, or that the economy is doing much better and or the fact that Isis is dead and gone either...

It's all about bashing Trump's character I know for you liberals.. Sad.... MAGA!!!

[Nitrogen]

The wall is coming and Mexico will pay for it indirectly..

And the crowd resumes the chant....

"will pay for it...indirectly!"

[jtoler]

One of the pubby "conservative" presidents that pubs have in their pantheon of pubby presidents as with previous "conservatives" of the last 70 years these guys are the opposite of what pubs say they are which means either they dont give a turd or they have no idea what their talking about, Id go with both. Several times Ive tried to explain the game to them but they rather remain divided by the very thing that was created to divide them, pure stupidity. Pubby voters are the biggest frauds and hypocrites youll ever come across.

[RoyBacon]

You stated a claim. I asked for a source.

No source provided. A proud liar you are.

All you need to do is walk in on 15 year old girls, then act like you want to f\*\*k your daughter. You could be President!

Like magic!

Ask a lib what they would do to fix the problem and boy-a do they change the subject! This tard pivoted to banging his daughter or something!

Here it is again...it's not a trick... you can do this;
"What is your solution to stem the 800,000 illegals that cross the border? "

[JIBBBY]

Like magic!

Ask a lib what they would do to fix the problem and boy-a do they change the subject! This tard pivoted to banging his daughter or something!

Here it is again...it's not a trick... you can do this;
"What is your solution to stem the 800,000 illegals that cross the border? "

Yup ask a Liberal on how to fix the immigration problem and they'll tell you open borders and legalize everyone... Moderate Democrats will freeze up when asked and give no solutions or answers... Wall wouldn't even cross their mind..

[RoyBacon]

Dam we lost Nitro.

Seriously, ask these libs for a solution to ANYTHING and it's like turning the lights on rooster roaches.

If they offer anything it's a talking point from their propaganda. Most of the time they just run.

[khicks26]

Like magic!

Ask a lib what they would do to fix the problem and boy-a do they change the subject! This tard pivoted to banging his daughter or something!

Here it is again...it's not a trick... you can do this;
"What is your solution to stem the 800,000 illegals that cross the border? "

Yup ask a Liberal on how to fix the immigration problem and they'll tell you open borders and legalize everyone... Moderate Democrats will freeze up when asked and give no solutions or answers... Wall wouldn't even cross their mind..

Sometimes its best to remain silent when any idea expressed will be forgotten by the next reply/post.

[khicks26]

Dam we lost Nitro.

Seriously, ask these libs for a solution to ANYTHING and it's like turning the lights on rooster roaches.

If they offer anything it's a talking point from their propaganda. Most of the time they just run.

Roy's go to

[Nitrogen]

Like magic!

Ask a lib what they would do to fix the problem and boy-a do they change the subject! This tard pivoted to banging his daughter or something!

Here it is again...it's not a trick... you can do this;
"What is your solution to stem the 800,000 illegals that cross the border? "

I'll address/answer your 800,000 question

- when you either admit you're a liar and made up that claim, or actually provide proof it was said.

&

- when I am back online. I don't live on this forum.

[RoyBacon]

I'll address/answer your 800,000 question

- when you either admit you're a liar and made up that claim, or actually provide proof it was said.

&

- when I am back online. I don't live on this forum.

Sure you will.... I gave you the link...

Don't sweat it. All you guys are the same.... I hate Trump, this is fascism! Uhh, OK, what's your solution? Uhhhh...I hate Trump! riiiiight..

[Nitrogen]

Sure you will.... I gave you the link...

Don't sweat it. All you guys are the same.... I hate Trump, this is fascism! Uhh, OK, what's your solution? Uhhhh...I hate Trump! riiiiight..

You gave me a link that proves Obama said he'd pass immigration in the first 100 days? I don't see it. If I missed it, I'll definitely acknowledge it (assuming it's actually a verifiable source)

Care to provide it again?

Not some other immigration related link. One that backs up what you said "Obama said he would pass immigration in his first 100 days."

[RoyBacon]

You gave me a link that proves Obama said he'd pass immigration in the first 100 days? I don't see it. If I missed it, I'll definitely acknowledge it (assuming it's actually a verifiable source)

Care to provide it again?

Not some other immigration related link. One that backs up what you said "Obama said he would pass immigration in his first 100 days."

I already said don't sweat it. I'm not wasting time searching for it. It was a campaign promise in 2008. And when he won and you guys had 60 seats in the senate and the House was there a DACA solution? Immigration? Anything??

[Nitrogen]

I already said don't sweat it. I'm not wasting time searching for it. It was a campaign promise in 2008. And when he won and you guys had 60 seats in the senate and the House was there a DACA solution? Immigration? Anything??

You're sure he said it, yet you'd rather admit you're lazy and keep posting, then just prove yourself right? (Since the quote must exist but you just don't want to find the proof...right?)
You're either a liar, or have replaced a memory with one of your own choosing, or are lazy.. Either way, you can't back it up - so you dodge and dance and try to change gears.

Until you provide proof, you're a fake news flake who needs Jibby to come to his aid when he can't even back up the most basic comment.

PAGING JIBBY....Roy needs you!

[JIBBBY]

You're sure he said it, yet you'd rather admit you're lazy and keep posting, then just prove yourself right? (Since the quote must exist but you just don't want to find the proof...right?)
You're either a liar, or have replaced a memory with one of your own choosing, or are lazy.. Either way, you can't back it up - so you dodge and dance and try to change gears.

Until you provide proof, you're a fake news flake who needs Jibby to come to his aid when he can't even back up the most basic comment.

PAGING JIBBY....Roy needs you!

I try to avoid getting into political flame wars, that's not my gig.. People take sides and are set in their beliefs and ways..

For me posting on SBR I just support Trump and what he is trying to do for the Coutnry and I also enjoy celebrating the wins.. That's what JIBS is about on SBR and winning sports bets too...

I'm a peaceful man understand..

[Nitrogen]

I try to avoid getting into political flame wars, that's not my gig.. People have take sides and are set in the beliefs and ways..

For me posting on SBR I just support Trump and what he is trying to do for the Coutnry and I also enjoy celebrating the wins.. That's what JIBS is about on SBR and winning sports bets too...

I'm a peaceful man understand..

You may be a small-c Conservative, a bleeding heart green liberal, a rino or something else.
But referring to yourself in the 3rd person makes you a bonafide douche no matter who you vote for or support.

[JIBBBY]

You may be a small-c Conservative, a bleeding heart green liberal, a rino or something else.
But referring to yourself in the 3rd person makes you a bonafide douche no matter who you vote for or support.

Lol.. Now that was funny.. JIBS is now laughing (3rd person)... ..

[Nitrogen]

Lol.. Now that was funny.. JIBS is now laughing (3rd person)... ..

Cheers JIBS.

[petepan69]

Libtard stupidity is mind boggling...

Where do these dunces come from?

I don't consider libtards Americans.

They hate America and everything it stands for or has stood for.

I don't know what we are waiting for..

It's time to run the streets red with their filthy commie blood.

Co-existing is not possible. It's them or us.

[RoyBacon]

You're sure he said it, yet you'd rather admit you're lazy and keep posting, then just prove yourself right? (Since the quote must exist but you just don't want to find the proof...right?)
You're either a liar, or have replaced a memory with one of your own choosing, or are lazy.. Either way, you can't back it up - so you dodge and dance and try to change gears.

Until you provide proof, you're a fake news flake who needs Jibby to come to his aid when he can't even back up the most basic comment.

PAGING JIBBY....Roy needs you!

If I thought you would actually post a liberal solution to the 1 million illegals that cross the border I would find you the youtubes or quotes.

But I've played this game before with you guys. It's obvious that you have no solution. There is not a libtard on this board that has suggested a solution outside they hate Trump...and you ain't no different.

No matter what the subject is, you guys haven't even thought through the problem much less have a solution. We had a huge thread on the liberal solution to economic growth. Not a single idea only we hate trump. So I already know your answer.

[Nitrogen]

If I thought you would actually post a liberal solution to the 1 million illegals that cross the border I would find you the youtubes or quotes..

What an absolute laughable cop-out. You won't find the proof of your claim because you assume I don't have an answer to your followup comment?

Hahaha. It should be incredibly simple to find such a claim. There's posters in here who have threads devoted to all of Obama's lies or broken promises. They all missed it too?

[RoyBacon]

What an absolute laughable cop-out. You won't find the proof of your claim because you assume I don't have an answer to your followup comment?

Hahaha. It should be incredibly simple to find such a claim. There's posters in here who have threads devoted to all of Obama's lies or broken promises. They all missed it too?

Did you read my post?

You have no solution to this problem. Look at my join date. You don't think I've been through this before? I don't care what Obama did. We both know the Dems controlled the House and had a filibuster proof senate. So no need to play stupid. Ditto now, you haven't the foggiest idea how to stop illegal immigration. If you did, you would have already said it.

[Nitrogen]

Did you read my post?

You have no solution to this problem. Look at my join date. You don't think I've been through this before? I don't care what Obama did. We both know the Dems controlled the House and had a filibuster proof senate. So no need to play stupid. Ditto now, you haven't the foggiest idea how to stop illegal immigration. If you did, you would have already said it.

Where to begin.

I have ideas and opinions on how to stop it, but I'm comfortable not detailing it to someone who makes up claims (translation: lies) and then when caught in said lie, builds a shovel out of diversions and questions.

I didn't make any claims that are being challenged in this thread. Had I said "Trump promised he'd build the wall with his own tiny hands with one tiny shovel" - I would provide proof (or expect to be rightly challenged to provide proof)

You've gone from Obama said...to Promises don't matter... to...but you don't have a solution (paraphrasing)

You debate with conditions, yet can't even back up the most basic claims.

Provide the proof. Not some forum post from another site. A claim like that would be available on hundreds of reputable sites.

You can't provide proof. You're a joke.