Lawrence ODonnell vs Herman Cain on now

Mr KLC · 10-06-11, 08:12 PM

I caught the tail end of the interview. I liked it when Cain stopped him when Lawrence threw in the statement that 9-9-9 would cut the tax revenue in half. Good rebuttal to Lawrence's statement that this would make the lower class pay more taxes.

itchypickle · 10-06-11, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

I caught the tail end of the interview. I liked it when Cain stopped him when Lawrence threw in the statement that 9-9-9 would cut the tax revenue in half. Good rebuttal to Lawrence's statement that this would make the lower class pay more taxes.

Cain knows his stuff...have you seen the retro clip of when he schooled Bill Clinton in the 90's on the health care impact on businesses?

King Mayan · 10-06-11, 09:20 PM

Yes Cain knows his stuff. Stuffed pizza.

You guys be getting easily brainwashed by limbaugh

Turd Ferguson · 10-06-11, 09:20 PM

I listened to it. Cain's a clown but O'Donnel did cheapshot him, I was cringing at what a jackass O'Donnell was making out of himself. Thought Cain handled it well.

itchypickle · 10-06-11, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by Turd Ferguson

I listened to it. Cain's a clown but O'Donnel did cheapshot him, I was cringing at what a jackass O'Donnell was making out of himself. Thought Cain handled it well.

The last few seconds were the best when Cain told him "Lawrence, I'll come back and 'chat' with YOU....ANNNYYtime"

I like Cain for the fact he's a straight shooter....not a polished politician who crafts his statements. But you're right and cheap shot might even be an understatement. I guess O'Donnell was trying to get him pissed off enough to say something stupid so they could run the sound bite over and over and over.

itchypickle · 10-06-11, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by King Mayan

Yes Cain knows his stuff. Stuffed pizza.

You guys be getting easily brainwashed by limbaugh

King, you racist motherfukker

You can't say that about a black guy!

King Mayan · 10-06-11, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by itchypickle

King, you racist motherfukker

You can't say that about a black guy!

The guy was a coward that sat in the sidelines while the rest of the black people were getting their ass kicked/killed.

Let's get Christie. I'll vote for that fukk over Obama. Even huntsman.

itchypickle · 10-06-11, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by King Mayan

The guy was a coward that sat in the sidelines while the rest of the black people were getting their ass kicked/killed.

Let's get Christie. I'll vote for that fukk over Obama. Even huntsman.

I wouldn't say he was a coward, as you heard him say tonight, and he put in his book....his dad had him stay in school and not get a criminal record...and what do ya know.....he did that and got into college in the South and even rose through the ranks of the major companies he worked for, not by affirmative action and whining but through effort. I'll take that over a race baiter any day.

Obama probably read about Cain back in the day while Barack was cozied up in Harvard and Columbia living that rough life and thinking "why is this brother out there working for the white man"

I liked 'ole fatty Mcbutterpants Christie. He's hard in his tone and decisiveness but he's moderate on ideology and views. Good combo for me. I have no clue who I'll cast the vote for so far....all of the field have multiple pros and cons so hope it narrows out soon.

Mr KLC · 10-06-11, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by itchypickle

Cain knows his stuff...have you seen the retro clip of when he schooled Bill Clinton in the 90's on the health care impact on businesses?

Absolutely. He was throwing facts and figures at Clinton to the point where Clinton finally had to relent, and tell Cain to send those figures to him so he could look over them. You could tell Clinton was relieved to have that exchange over with.

Flashmo · 10-07-11, 06:48 AM

The left is scared that Cain will get the nomination..Then the people can vote for a REAL Black man, and he's a good man, too..

King Mayan · 10-07-11, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by itchypickle

I wouldn't say he was a coward, as you heard him say tonight, and he put in his book....his dad had him stay in school and not get a criminal record...and what do ya know.....he did that and got into college in the South and even rose through the ranks of the major companies he worked for, not by affirmative action and whining but through effort. I'll take that over a race baiter any day.

Obama probably read about Cain back in the day while Barack was cozied up in Harvard and Columbia living that rough life and thinking "why is this brother out there working for the white man"

.

Sorry, but anybody that thinks fighting for your rights because he didn't want a criminal record or get his ass kicked, when clearly blacks were treated like dogshit, it's a bitch and a coward. That's why hes a uncle Tom and every black voter will know that.

And Obama didn't have it easy, the guy made it to harvard without daddy connections.

RubberKettle · 10-07-11, 10:24 AM

Why couldn't they get Cain on with Rev. Al?

I would love to see Cain wipe the floor with that race trader.

PhillyFlyers · 10-07-11, 10:42 AM

Let me get this straight, 9-9-9 that would mean we pay 9% national sales tax, a 9% flat tax on personal income, and a 9% flat tax on corporate income. I have huge doubts about this plan. For starters, if you have a national sales tax, you have to get rid of the income tax completely. If you don't then any politician who came into office could easily change that 9-9-9 plan into a 20-20-20 plan. We would then have a national sales tax and a income tax. Seems like a recipe for disaster if you ask me.

golfrulz · 10-07-11, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Flashmo

The left is scared that Cain will get the nomination..Then the people can vote for a REAL Black man, and he's a good man, too..

the left scared of cain

....a good man

......a black rep...

golfrulz · 10-07-11, 12:13 PM

No job? It's your fault, US Republican Cain says......another brilliant statement by aka uncle tom of the rep party.

Turd Ferguson · 10-07-11, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by itchypickle

I guess O'Donnell was trying to get him pissed off enough to say something stupid so they could run the sound bite over and over and over.

This is probably the case and is why I was so dissapointed. O'Donnell is smart enough to have an intelligent debate and could have raked Cain over the coals for a number of things that have spewed out of his trap lately, but instead he took it in this direction and Cain wound up looking better than was the intent of O'Donnell or the people who directed him.

Flashmo · 10-07-11, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by golfrulz

No job? It's your fault, US Republican Cain says......another brilliant statement by aka uncle tom of the rep party.

Yet more living proof that the real racists are on the left...I'm guessing the best part of you ran down your father's leg...

Mr KLC · 10-07-11, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

Let me get this straight, 9-9-9 that would mean we pay 9% national sales tax, a 9% flat tax on personal income, and a 9% flat tax on corporate income. I have huge doubts about this plan. For starters, if you have a national sales tax, you have to get rid of the income tax completely. If you don't then any politician who came into office could easily change that 9-9-9 plan into a 20-20-20 plan. We would then have a national sales tax and a income tax. Seems like a recipe for disaster if you ask me.

They can try to raise taxes on people right now with the current tax code. They can try to get rid of deductions on your current income taxes. Sorry, I forgot. They're already trying it now.

itchypickle · 10-07-11, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by golfrulz

No job? It's your fault, US Republican Cain says......another brilliant statement by aka uncle tom of the rep party.

Cain - a self made career man, educated at Morehouse College which is the epitome of black envy in the south, has rose through the ranks of several multi billion dollar companies on MERIT not skin color and affirmative action

vs

Obama - an half breed who went to Harvard and Columbia and successfully published nothing in his 12 years as an attorney and professor other than his own memoirs and now spends his days golfing at the elite country clubs with old grey white men while never having or creating a single job of his own much less helping others do the same

Take out the known names of the two and which one sounds more Uncle Tomish to you? Fukking idiot.

And he was spot on with his remarks - if person x works his way through school and saves extra money along the way and then works 100 hour weeks for 15 years and has a stable house, job and family now. Person y bums around and barely scrapes by high school and then does one year at a community college before taking a job at a factory so he can have consistent hours leaving him free time to clown around and before you know it 15 years later he's still renting and apartment is in debt with no family and has not made pay raises due to slacking off to the minimum standard. The two see each other at a restaurant one night and talk for the first time since high school - can either of them blame a bank or George Bush for their current place in life?

King Mayan · 10-07-11, 08:26 PM

Uncle tom= yes sir I'll move back to the bus... You see white people, Herman is not a trouble maker. Those blacks that want rights are trouble makers and give you whites a hard time, not me sir. I'll sit back and reap the benefits of other people getting their ass kicked.

rkelly110 · 10-07-11, 09:50 PM

They are both success stories, itchy. Some day our grand kids will read about them.

We tried the different race route, let's not make the same mistake twice, eh?

Mr KLC · 10-08-11, 06:51 AM

Finally saw the whole interview. Would I have gone with the format that Lawrence did? Absolutely not, but I will say that I did get some stuff out of it. The main thing is that Cain can withstand the pressure of a presidential campaign. He called Lawrence out when he needed to be called out, but did it with eloquence. He gave attention to the questions that deserved it, and gave one sentence answers to the ones that weren't as relevant to the current political climate.

After seeing this, I believe more than ever, that the leadership and media on the left are scared to death of a black, conservative candidate. I've heard all the chants of racism against this administration when people asked for a birth certificate, or just simply disagreed with the policies of our president. Where's the outrage against O'Donnell for some of the questions asked here? Is O'Donnell really the person to judge that someone did not contribute enough to the civil rights movement? Why was he trying to make Cain look like some type of draft dodger during the Vietnam era? If Fox had tried this line of questioning against a black, liberal candidate, this story would be front page stuff.

The fact is, if Cain's message of listening to an alternative to the Democratic plan would resonate with just a portion of the automatically voting Democrat part of the black community, it would possibly start a trend that would take away an ensured voting block that the left enjoy every election cycle. I have no doubt that Mr. Cain can handle himself, and the pressure, if his campaign continues to grow and get stronger. My question is, "Will the black community come to his side, like they did with Obama, if his integrity is questioned similarly to how they felt our president's was?" I have a feeling that the answer will be a definitive, "No!".