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  • no gnu taxes
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-18-11
    • 805

    #1
    Obama is a FAILURE period.
    Why can't those on the left admit President Obama is a failure? What part of this bad economy do they not get? Hes been President for well over two years and in that time we have seen unemployment soar into the 9's. We have yet to end these useless ridiculous so called wars. Immigration is far worse now than it was when he took office. He states he wants to create jobs here in the United States and in the same breath we are sending jobs to China of all places to make commercial aviation aircraft/ parts. Then there is the tax
    debacle. Tax the rich to give to the poor! I mean really. I can understand if when a new President makes some mistakes, but Obama is setting records here. Look at the debt we owe now versus what we owed when he took office. He added....not subtracted. Nothing this man does is worth a damn. He's screwed us all and the sad part is, those on the left are still buying the goods he's selling. What about the health care bill? Just what we need, mandatory or else.....I really cannot stand Obama. I take back anything good I ever said about him. He and his cronies have managed to divide this country and its people. As for those on the left. Go ahead keep believing this mans lies and deceit.....

    After all....we wouldn't want you all to get soft now would we???

    BTW Since its likely someone will say...." oh goody, another I hate Obama thread

    " I'll save yous the trouble.....I do hate Obama and this is most decisively a, I hate Obama OP......

    Lets not forget his cronies as well......
  • jw
    SBR MVP
    • 10-25-09
    • 3999

    #2
    Originally posted by no gnu taxes
    Why can't those on the left admit President Obama is a failure?
    For the same reason that those on the right cannot accept that he has been instrumental in putting an end to the failed economic policies of the prior administration that led us down this garden path in the first place.

    Simple.

    Fact is ..... like it or not ... you will find at the next election that more people will support him than the nut-job alternative.

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    • no gnu taxes
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-18-11
      • 805

      #3
      Originally posted by jw
      For the same reason that those on the right cannot accept that he has been instrumental in putting an end to the failed economic policies of the prior administration that led us down this garden path in the first place.

      Bush average unemployment rate -- about 5%

      Obama 9%

      Boy, I'd sure like to to return to those "failed policies.
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      • jw
        SBR MVP
        • 10-25-09
        • 3999

        #4
        Originally posted by no gnu taxes

        Bush average unemployment rate -- about 5%

        Obama 9%

        Boy, I'd sure like to to return to those "failed policies.
        Actually Bush had already pushed unemployment numbers up from 4.2 in Jan 2001 to 8.2 in Feb 2009 (an 95% + increase)

        So far .. even if we blame Obama for everything from the second he took over (Feb 2009) .. Unemployment has gone from 8.2% .. to a massive 9.1% now ... a huge 10% increase ...

        So tell me again .. which economic policy would you rather have.
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        • no gnu taxes
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-18-11
          • 805

          #5
          Originally posted by jw
          Actually Bush had already pushed unemployment numbers up from 4.2 in Jan 2001 to 8.2 in Feb 2009 (an 95% + increase)

          So far .. even if we blame Obama for everything from the second he took over (Feb 2009) .. Unemployment has gone from 8.2% .. to a massive 9.1% now ... a huge 10% increase ...

          So tell me again .. which economic policy would you rather have.
          Over his Presidency, the unemployment rate under Bush averaged about 5.3%. And that 's after he inherited a dot com bubble recession when he took Office.

          But who cares about Bush anymore?

          Obmama's stimulus was supposed to guarantee the unemployment rate would never be above 8%. Yet it's never been that LOW and we have trillions in new debt.

          Exactly what Bush "economic policy" do you have a problem with anyway, that Obama has cured?
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          • jw
            SBR MVP
            • 10-25-09
            • 3999

            #6
            Originally posted by no gnu taxes
            But who cares about Bush anymore?
            You apparently .. as you chose to use him as the basis for your flawed argument.

            Originally posted by no gnu taxes

            Obmama's stimulus was supposed to guarantee the unemployment rate would never be above 8%.
            It was over 8% when he took office ... you're really bad at this "fact based argument" thing aren't you .. maybe your non-ghost screen-name is better .. why not try that one ...

            Originally posted by no gnu taxes
            Exactly what Bush "economic policy" do you have a problem with anyway, that Obama has cured?
            "Starve the Beast"
            ^^^ That one mainly ..

            ... you know - the one that took us down the garden path right into the mouth of huge debt, massive unemployment, a major recession .. despite massive stimulus spending ... (sound familiar ... ? Exactly the same things that now oppose strangely enough)
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            • no gnu taxes
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-18-11
              • 805

              #7
              You apparently .. as you chose to use him as the basis for your flawed argument.
              YOU are the one who keeps bringing him up, not me. What do you like about the current failed President?


              It was over 8% when he took office ... you're really bad at this "fact based argument" thing aren't you .. maybe your non-ghost screen-name is better .. why not try that one ...
              I believe the rate was 7.7% in January 2009, and Obama promised it would not be above 8% if he passed his stimulus.




              ... you know - the one that took us down the garden path right into the mouth of huge debt, massive unemployment, a major recession .. despite massive stimulus spending ... (sound familiar ... ? Exactly the same things that now oppose strangely enough)
              I'm still asking what exactly about Bush's so-called terrible economic policies have changed that you love so much about Obama has done?
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              • no gnu taxes
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 08-18-11
                • 805

                #8
                It was over 8% when he took office ... you're really bad at this "fact based argument" thing aren't you .. maybe your non-ghost screen-name is better .. why not try that one ...
                7.6% for January 2009, released the first week of February 2009

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                • jw
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-25-09
                  • 3999

                  #9
                  Originally posted by no gnu taxes
                  YOU are the one who keeps bringing him up, not me.
                  read back - you were the first to mention him here ...



                  Originally posted by no gnu taxes
                  What do you like about the current failed President?
                  I think he is not nearly liberal enough and would welcome a true far left wing candidate to vote for. He kowtows to the nut-jobs on the right far too much .. and should just screw them over when deciding policy and waving about his veto pen.

                  Originally posted by no gnu taxes
                  I believe the rate was 7.7% in January 2009,
                  Obama took office on 20th January .. you want to blame him for all of January ... or should we take the figures from February ... which are 8.2% ...

                  Originally posted by no gnu taxes
                  I'm still asking what exactly about Bush's so-called terrible economic policies have changed ...
                  .... nothing much has changed .. that however is not the fault of Obama .. they want to spend .. and we should be spending ..... restricting spending only curtails job creation which in turn means that we are in this slump longer than we need be .. if a Republican were in office .. they would be crying out for new spending/stimulus .. and the Democrats would be telling you how irresponsible you were ... you know it .. i know and the politicians know it.
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                  • oiler
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-06-09
                    • 6585

                    #10
                    so your saying none of this is bush fault,then u need to stop doing the drugs your on and get to reality
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                    • guitarjosh
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 12-25-07
                      • 5798

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jw

                      For the same reason that those on the right cannot accept that he has been instrumental in putting an end to the failed economic policies of the prior administration that led us down this garden path in the first place.

                      Simple.

                      Fact is ..... like it or not ... you will find at the next election that more people will support him than the nut-job alternative.

                      The problem is that they're pretty much the same policies.
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                      • jw
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-25-09
                        • 3999

                        #12
                        Originally posted by guitarjosh

                        The problem is that they're pretty much the same policies.
                        Indeed they are .. Obama is far too right-leaning for my liking ... hopefully he will run as far to the left as he can once he has won re-election. Time to start stepping on toes.
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                        • no gnu taxes
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-18-11
                          • 805

                          #13
                          read back - you were the first to mention him here ...
                          Oh, because you said "prior administration" and not "Bush," that doesn't count for mentioning him first?
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                          • no gnu taxes
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 08-18-11
                            • 805

                            #14
                            Obama took office on 20th January .. you want to blame him for all of January ... or should we take the figures from February ... which are 8.2% ...
                            Obama took Office with an unemployment rate of of 7.6%. That's the fact. In fact he campaigned at that time the unemployment rate would not exceed 8% if his stimulus was passed.

                            It's sort of like you people blaming Bush for the recession which officially started in March 2001.
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                            • jw
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-25-09
                              • 3999

                              #15
                              Originally posted by no gnu taxes

                              Obama took Office with an unemployment rate of of 7.6%.
                              lol .. ok - so Bush only raised unemployment by 80% whilst in office ... FACT.



                              Great job with your argument there ... prove how much of a failure the previous administration was with your own argument .. well done you ..
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                              • rkelly110
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 10-05-09
                                • 39691

                                #16
                                I understand where no gnu is coming from. 'bama tooted from his biggest horn to get elected.
                                Now he's tooting out of his ass.

                                I agree jw, I don't like him caving to the Repukes either.
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                                • DwightShrute
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-17-09
                                  • 103473

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by no gnu taxes
                                  Why can't those on the left admit President Obama is a failure?
                                  too stubborn
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                                  • no gnu taxes
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-18-11
                                    • 805

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jw
                                    lol .. ok - so Bush only raised unemployment by 80% whilst in office ... FACT.



                                    Great job with your argument there ... prove how much of a failure the previous administration was with your own argument .. well done you ..
                                    You do realize that the average unemployment rate over Bush's term was about the same as the previous President? The unemployment rate under Bush didn't start to explode until the Dems took Congress.
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                                    • jw
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-25-09
                                      • 3999

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by no gnu taxes

                                      You do realize that the average unemployment rate over Bush's term was about the same as the previous President? The unemployment rate under Bush didn't start to explode until the Dems took Congress.

                                      SO Obama is to blame right now ... but congress was at fault under Bush ... riiiiight ... please continue to talk and make yourself look even more foolish ... pick a rule and stick to it ghost boy ...
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                                      • no gnu taxes
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-18-11
                                        • 805

                                        #20
                                        but congress was at fault under Bush
                                        Actually, yes for their refusal to reign in the GSEs. But then, it goes back to the previous President for the the irresponsible stepped up enforcement of the CRA in the mid 90s.
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