Federer v. Murray

[bettilimbroke999]

What a fukin joke, yea Roger you really won that game you fukin cocksucker, nice call linesman

[hoopster42]

i started a thread about why this match is so much more difficult (thus far) for murray vs fed than it was vs. nadal:

nadal's shots have so much topspin that they were bouncing so high off the court right into andy murray's hitting zone

today, fed's shots are staying low and going 'through the court' more, as they say

much tougher for andy to receive the ball in his wheelhouse

i'm curious what CrazyL and other tennis experts here think about my theory

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Murray still has a chance here - he's suffering because his first serve % isn't all there , and Federer was really punishing his seconds. Raise that FS% by 5%, and his service games will go from horrible to solid. He then only needs to pinch a break, which he'll have plenty chances to do, and the match is level.

[Shark79]

Fed Ex about to deliver.

[Boner_18]

What a fukin joke, yea Roger you really won that game you fukin cocksucker, nice call linesman

Oh please that was just as much Murray's fault as it was the linesman's. Learn to understand the challenge system Andy

[hoopster42]

Murray still has a chance here - he's suffering because his first serve % isn't all there , and Federer was really punishing his seconds. Raise that FS% by 5%, and his service games will go from horrible to solid. He then only needs to pinch a break, which he'll have plenty chances to do, and the match is level.

yeah, his serve is definitely his key, he thrives off of blasting those weak returns so hard into the corners of the court

[HeeeHAWWWW]

You know what: Federer has played much better as an average, but as the 2nd set goes on Murray is looking more comfortable holding serve than Federer. That suggests a break or a Murray tiebreak win are definite possibilities.

Wouldn't be deserved of course, but tennis scorelines don't bother about things like that.

[hoopster42]

i agree heehaww, andy is closer to breaking fed's serve than vice versa

[bettilimbroke999]

Well instead of serving for the 2nd set, he's serving for 5-5, what a fukin joke, robbed by the linesman, thefixisin.com

[hoopster42]

bet999, thats hogwash

[ryanXL977]

you are assuming that, if the linesman made the right call, murray would have won the whole match? it was a bad call, but he can stil lrecover

[Kingctb27]

You people were morons for betting on Murray.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Was a very difficult line call, Murray himself wasn't even sure enough to stop the point.

[bettilimbroke999]

Well 1 set all, oh fuk whoops I forgot the linesmen have been paid off, 5-5 , where the fuk is Steeltown and his "vegas connections" when I need him

[Boner_18]

seriously

bet999, thats hogwash

Seriously. I agree in an ideal world shotspot would apply to every point instantly. However the player shares responsibility with the linesman and can overturn any call if they follow the rules.

Not to mention Murray (as well as other players) have benefited this from still returning balls but being allowed to challenge nonetheless. For some reason chair umps were letting this fly earlier in the tourney.

[ryanXL977]

the match isnt close to over

[HeeeHAWWWW]

You people were morons for betting on Murray.

People said that when I posted my Murray 3-1 Nadal correctscore bet at +1000, and Murray to beat Djokovic in the Cincinatti final.

There was no indication Federer could lift his game to this sort of level anymore - I'm content the value was with Murray. Bluntly, anyone betting on Federer the last year has been losing money extremely badly, anyone betting on Murray has been making a mint.

[bettilimbroke999]

You people were morons for betting on Murray.

Yea we shoulda predicted the linesmen would be betting on Fed

[Shark79]

TRIPLE BP for FEDEX !!!

[Shark79]

3rd set bout to start!! FEDEX up 2 - 0

[bettilimbroke999]

Congrats Fed backers, including the linesman, what a fukin joke instead of 1-1 it's 2-0, betting on tennis is a joke, anyone who thinks they got a "deal" on Fed at -200 is a fukin nitwit

[Kingctb27]

Yea we shoulda predicted the linesmen would be betting on Fed

Yeah, because 2-3 points here and there are going to decide the match.

[ryanXL977]

he was already getting beat
it sucks and its not fair and is ee the point he is making, it could have swung the set

but this is why betting is impossible

yesterday phils are up 1-0 and they call wright safe at third, changes the whole game, pitch count, etc. bad calls are why sports bettors will never win

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Bad calls always even out.

Having said that, bad calls against the Yankees are always correct, and should be encouraged.

[ryanXL977]

amen
when do the yanks ever get bad calls

the rays, on the other hand, get more bad calls than any team ive seen this year

and the phils

[EaglesPhan36]

Well I hope we all enjoyed the BEST Major in Tennis. Anti-climatic ending it appears. Hail King Roger for another year. Glad he was able to get this one. See you die hard tennis freaks in the trenches for the smaller tourneys.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Same pattern again: Murray threatens Federer on serve, but not serving well enough himself to make any difference in the long run.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

amen
when do the yanks ever get bad calls

It can never be often enough :-) Anything involving A-Rod making a total fool of himself just makes it better - although tbh this season he's been pretty good at that himself (11 GIDPs in one month, all time Yanks record!)

[Boner_18]

Well I hope we all enjoyed the BEST Major in Tennis. Anti-climatic ending it appears. Hail King Roger for another year. Glad he was able to get this one. See you die hard tennis freaks in the trenches for the smaller tourneys.

Been fun, made a few bucks. See ya in Madrid.

[jstblaze]

for the last 3 matches, federer has played his best tennis all year.

he stepped up for this occasion.

i had federer for the first set, federer to win -1 1/2 sets, and under 41 games, because i thought federer would win this easy.

i have never bet tennis before, but this just seemed to easy for me. sports i bet, i miss the traps, but because i never play tennis, i felt i saw this as a trap to bet murray.

could have easily gone the other ay if the momentum was different, but federer is playing the best tennis he has played in over a year, and did so against djokovic as well as igor.

[Shark79]

Well I hope we all enjoyed the BEST Major in Tennis. Anti-climatic ending it appears. Hail King Roger for another year. Glad he was able to get this one. See you die hard tennis freaks in the trenches for the smaller tourneys.

[bettilimbroke999]

Yeah, because 2-3 points here and there are going to decide the match.

Yep you got it, 2-3 breakpoints here or there decides the match, now you understand tennis

[BuddyBear]

Federer is a man among boys out there.....

Anyone who took Murray at +170 or whatever, should have waited to try to get +500 (the true price for this match).

[ryanXL977]

federer is unreal
the guy is jus unreal

[bettilimbroke999]

federer is unreal
the guy is jus unreal

Yep he split sets with Murray I mean won in straight sets, hell once they gave him that 2nd set and he's got Murray 2-0 the match is over, Murray's given up he knows he can't comeback from 2-0 down and he knows the linesman stole the 2nd set from him. Hell at least in the old days when the linesman stole your game you weren't absolutely sure, why would they give Roger that game when they were absolutely sure he had lost it, why even have the system in place then? Just to show you how bad you are getting cheated?