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  • gauchojake
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-17-10
    • 34116

    #316
    Originally posted by dlunc3
    that is a reality.. heres another one... kobe has had pau and shaq and lebron has had anderson varejeo


    put lebron on those laker teams, he might have double digit rings by now.. shaq would have stayed and they woulda been the best 1/2 punch ever
    The reality is that you can't put LeBron on those teams because he wasn't on them. You can however put him on a team with D Wade and C Bosh and still not get a championship. The guy is not a winner.
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    • dlunc3
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-31-09
      • 9129

      #317
      he has never been the best player in the league at any point in time
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      • dlunc3
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-31-09
        • 9129

        #318
        Originally posted by gauchojake
        The reality is that you can't put LeBron on those teams because he wasn't on them. You can however put him on a team with D Wade and C Bosh and still not get a championship. The guy is not a winner.
        isnt this the second yr he has been on that miami team? didnt he get to the finals in the first? I guess jordan wasnt a winner either huh? bc lebron is still younger then jordan was when he won his first
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        • jsmithj88
          SBR MVP
          • 12-27-08
          • 3591

          #319
          i dont understand y he doesnt give the ball to gasol and bynum more often
          they still have best front court in the nba, he shud be able to play off of them
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          • dlunc3
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-31-09
            • 9129

            #320
            Originally posted by jsmithj88
            i dont understand y he doesnt give the ball to gasol and bynum more often
            they still have best front court in the nba, he shud be able to play off of them
            with those three, they should still be in contention without a doubt... kobe and coach brown need to get their acts together
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            • jsmithj88
              SBR MVP
              • 12-27-08
              • 3591

              #321
              Originally posted by gauchojake
              The reality is that you can't put LeBron on those teams because he wasn't on them. You can however put him on a team with D Wade and C Bosh and still not get a championship. The guy is not a winner.
              is kobe a loser for getting swept and totally embarrassed by the mavs in the playoffs?
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              • zsr
                SBR MVP
                • 06-01-10
                • 4117

                #322
                Lol guys let this go. Lebron was on the best roster of all time and he was the single reason they lost the championship. If he averaged anything close to his normal numbers, or, you know, scored in the 4th, they would of won.

                Jordan won when Scottie developed. Lebron has 2 players that are better then Scottie and he didn't win a championship his first try. He has 5 more tries with this group, but let's be real wade will not be elite for 5 more years so he probably has 3, tops.

                Lebron is not better then Kobe. There's no argument for that, and he's certainly not in jordans class. Could it be that Lebron IS Scottie?
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                • jsmithj88
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-27-08
                  • 3591

                  #323
                  Originally posted by William Walters
                  Where is it exactly that I posted that GM's would choose Kobe over LeBron (to be on their team) in 2012? My post about GM's was referring to their (the top basketball minds in the world) opinion of the 2012 Kobe. In case you missed it...........here are their opinions: Who is the best shooting guard in the NBA? 1. Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 55.6% 2. Dwyane Wade, Miami -- 40.7% 3. Ray Allen, Boston -- 3.7% Which player is the best at getting his own shot? 1. Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 35.7% 2. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 21.4% T3. LeBron James, Miami -- 14.3% T3. Dwyane Wade, Miami -- 14.3% Who is the toughest player in the NBA? 1. Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 32.1% 2. Rajon Rondo, Boston -- 10.7% T3. Tony Allen, Memphis -- 7.1% T3. Reggie Evans, L.A. Clippers -- 7.1% T3. Kevin Garnett, Boston -- 7.1% Which player is the best leader? 1. Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers -- 25.0% 2. Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 14.3% T3. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 10.7% T3. Steve Nash, Phoenix -- 10.7% and last, but not least........... Which player would you want taking a shot with the game on the line? 1. Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 48.1% 2. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 30.8%
                  is kobe the best SG in the nba, yea he is. even with a busted wrist and his milage as a player
                  but i find it absolutely hilarious u omitted the first 2 topics on that NBA poll .......


                  Who will win the 2011-12 MVP?
                  1. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 55.6%
                  2. LeBron James, Miami -- 44.4%
                  Last year: Kevin Durant -- 66.7%


                  If you were starting a franchise and could sign any player, who would it be?
                  T1. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 37.0%
                  T1. LeBron James, Miami -- 37.0%
                  3. Derrick Rose, Chicago -- 14.8%
                  4. Dwight Howard, Orlando -- 7.4%
                  5. Dwyane Wade, Miami -- 3.7%
                  Last year: Kevin Durant - 55.6%

                  WOW, where kobe at???????????????
                  interested that his name wasnt selected AT ALL ...........
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                  • zsr
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-01-10
                    • 4117

                    #324
                    Originally posted by jsmithj88

                    is kobe a loser for getting swept and totally embarrassed by the mavs in the playoffs?
                    No because Kobe has 5 rings. Come on now. Kobe has been there and done that, Lebron hasn't. We all expect him too sure, but it's not a given.
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                    • jsmithj88
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-27-08
                      • 3591

                      #325
                      Originally posted by zsr
                      Lol guys let this go. Lebron was on the best roster of all time and he was the single reason they lost the championship. If he averaged anything close to his normal numbers, or, you know, scored in the 4th, they would of won. Jordan won when Scottie developed. Lebron has 2 players that are better then Scottie and he didn't win a championship his first try. He has 5 more tries with thus group, but let's be real wade will not be elite for 5 more years so he probably has 3, tops. Lebron is not better then Kobe. There's no argument for that, and he's certainly not in jordans class. Could it be that Lebron IS Scottie?
                      i agree, he definately came up short.
                      that wat happens when u pair up 2 people that cant shoot
                      they went zone and it was game over
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                      • todd24kb
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 06-21-10
                        • 646

                        #326
                        I sense some Laker haters on this thread. I'll pass on my opinion because whatever I say will not matter........
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                        • rdkjglsk
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 12-29-11
                          • 253

                          #327
                          Originally posted by jsmithj88
                          is kobe the best SG in the nba, yea he is. even with a busted wrist and his milage as a player
                          but i find it absolutely hilarious u omitted the first 2 topics on that NBA poll .......


                          Who will win the 2011-12 MVP?
                          1. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 55.6%
                          2. LeBron James, Miami -- 44.4%
                          Last year: Kevin Durant -- 66.7%


                          If you were starting a franchise and could sign any player, who would it be?
                          T1. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 37.0%
                          T1. LeBron James, Miami -- 37.0%
                          3. Derrick Rose, Chicago -- 14.8%
                          4. Dwight Howard, Orlando -- 7.4%
                          5. Dwyane Wade, Miami -- 3.7%
                          Last year: Kevin Durant - 55.6%

                          WOW, where kobe at???????????????
                          interested that his name wasnt selected AT ALL ...........
                          Maybe because you don't start a franchise with someone who is 33?

                          idiot
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                          • zsr
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-01-10
                            • 4117

                            #328
                            Tomorrow I'll start a new one.

                            Derrick rose best player in the league. I'm a homer but honestly he's almost there.
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                            • jsmithj88
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-27-08
                              • 3591

                              #329
                              Originally posted by rdkjglsk
                              Maybe because you don't start a franchise with someone who is 33?

                              idiot
                              Don't be mad at me
                              Kobe is not the best anymore
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                              • jsmithj88
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-27-08
                                • 3591

                                #330
                                Originally posted by zsr
                                Tomorrow I'll start a new one.

                                Derrick rose best player in the league. I'm a homer but honestly he's almost there.
                                Rose is the best??? Y is that??
                                Hes as big of a choker as lebron
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                                • zsr
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-01-10
                                  • 4117

                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by jsmithj88

                                  Rose is the best??? Y is that??
                                  Hes as big of a choker as lebron
                                  One big difference, rose doesn't have wade and bosh.

                                  I know he's not the best, but like I said he's almost there. Top 3 or 4
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                                  • zsr
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-01-10
                                    • 4117

                                    #332
                                    All these "best player in the league" discussions just come down to personal preference anyway.

                                    There's arguments for and against all the elite players.

                                    There's no clear cut guy like Jordan during the 90's
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                                    • YOUSENKO
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 07-25-11
                                      • 220

                                      #333
                                      Kobe stats look good because he is still hogging the ball. He still scores but the shots don't go in more than 50% of the time and he caused many bad turnovers.

                                      They have no choice but play this way because LAL don't have good point guard to pass to bynum and gasol. Kobe is not a good passer himself.
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                                      • jsmithj88
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-27-08
                                        • 3591

                                        #334
                                        Originally posted by zsr
                                        One big difference, rose doesn't have wade and bosh. I know he's not the best, but like I said he's almost there. Top 3 or 4
                                        wat does that have to do with anything?
                                        lebron has been considered the best player in the NBA for the last couple years
                                        him playing with wade and bosh doesnt make any difference in the subject
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                                        • William Walters
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 6372

                                          #335
                                          Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                          wat does that have to do with anything?
                                          lebron has been considered the best player in the NBA for the last couple years
                                          him playing with wade and bosh doesnt make any difference in the subject
                                          Hey Sport, I realize you think its super cool to type "wat" in all your posts, but if you would do me a big favor and spend the extra tenth of a second to include the "h" I would seriously appreciate it.
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                                          • jsmithj88
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-27-08
                                            • 3591

                                            #336
                                            Originally posted by William Walters
                                            Hey Sport, I realize you think its super cool to type "wat" in all your posts, but if you would do me a big favor and spend the extra tenth of a second to include the "h" I would seriously appreciate it.
                                            get over it
                                            i type as i please
                                            loser
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                                            • InTheDrink
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-23-09
                                              • 23983

                                              #337
                                              choking away the all star game on the same night he broke the scoring record?
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                                              • zsr
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 06-01-10
                                                • 4117

                                                #338
                                                Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                                choking away the all star game on the same night he broke the scoring record?
                                                And then lebron throws it away
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                                                • InTheDrink
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-23-09
                                                  • 23983

                                                  #339
                                                  Originally posted by zsr
                                                  And then lebron throws it away
                                                  blake griffin trying to bail lebron out
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                                                  • dlunc3
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-31-09
                                                    • 9129

                                                    #340
                                                    kobe was terrible the whole 4th then missed the crucial ft
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