Creditwagering - I want you guys to know something.

[SBR_John]

I've made warnings before about this book but SBR gets a lot of new people so please let me cover a few points.

1) Its a house of cards. One day it will be no more. We have covered this before but the business math simply does not work.

2) They claim to be in CR but folks, they are not. They most likely run this remotely from the good ole USA. I dont have proof of this but I strongly suspect it. No one in Costa Rica has ever heard of them. SBR has asked to inspect their facility and they have refused. They simply dont have one and they are not here.

3) The Feds will get them if they dont fail first and when they do they will get your records. If you are 100% clean on your taxes and everything else then probably no worries.

This will end messy. If you want to avoid the bad ending do not send them a photo ID or any other personal info.

[pavyracer]

Thanks for warning us John. Let's give them an F rating and send them packing.

[pat venditto]

cw has bouncers who came to my house and tryed to collect from me and i shoved a two by four up the big fat dudes ass. wasn't a pretty site.

[bettilimbroke999]

SBR's in CR, I thought they were in Texas? Not sure why Feds would bust you for a few hundred you won sports gambling during the year, seems a lil excessive but I guess anything's possible

[Nicky Santoro]

i warned these degenerates here about this place way before i ever read any of your posts about them, (if you did before me) their lines are so wacky. there's always been a trend with books that when you see lines off so much, they usually dont last and end up stiffing with everyone's money.. which will happen here. i've seen games there off by 35-45 cents. this is sickening.

but guys like richie alwys raves about this place and he will end up getting stiffed eventually. i feel bad for everyone else. the kids here will learn a valuable lesson soon. they think by not having to post up money is a good thing, but it's far from being the truth. meanwhile, it's a great way to get into trouble very quickly..

[pat venditto]

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Ben says:
Hello jjgold. My name is Ben how can I help you?
jjgold says:
yeah what country is credit wagering ran out of?
Ben says:
costa rica

[pat venditto]

so if the feds catch cw running out of the u.s.a ben's going into the big house for a long time for purgery i got his ass!

[flyingillini]

i warned these degenerates here about this place way before i ever read any of your posts about them, (if you did before me) their lines are so wacky. there's always been a trend with books that when you see lines off so much, they usually dont last and end up stiffing with everyone's money.. which will happen here. i've seen games there off by 35-45 cents. this is sickening.

but guys like richie alwys raves about this place and he will end up getting stiffed eventually. i feel bad for everyone else. the kids here will learn a valuable lesson soon. they think by not having to post up money is a good thing, but it's far from being the truth. meanwhile, it's a great way to get into trouble very quickly..

Nicky you are one of favorite people on this forum. How much for an 8x10 autographed glossy photo? It will go good in my sports memorabilia room.

[daggerkobe]

I feel dumb now.

[bettilimbroke999]

This is the IRS, we heard you had 400 bucks of income you didn't report last year. Ummmmmm yessir lemme just get my shoes on and I'll open the door.....

[Nicky Santoro]

Nicky you are one of favorite people on this forum. How much for an 8x10 autographed glossy photo? It will go good in my sports memorabilia room.

how have you been man? do you remember i nominated you as nicest guy in the forum? then you changed and you became very agressive and you were always in a bad mood, and very stressed out, but from what i see in your recent posts, you seem to be back to the flyer i know.. keep it up..

[Deuce]

But I hear CW is an A+ book. Best their is out there by this cock sucker...



Mother fukker prob runs it out of his trailer with JJGold. Stiffs.

[daggerkobe]

IRS just audited me for forgetting to report a cash bonus a bank gave me. Just because of $150.

[flyingillini]

how have you been man? do you remember i nominated you as nicest guy in the forum? then you changed and you became very agressive and you were always in a bad mood, and very stressed out, but from what i see in your recent posts, you seem to be back to the flyer i know.. keep it up..

Sorry about that Nickster! I was going through a rough time. I had my place remodeled and it went from a 6k budget to 35k.. Wasn't happy about that but it is all done and I am back living at my place. You are the man.. All I want is my dancing video with a lot of footwork. I need step by step instructions as well.. Make this happen. Also if you really are in East La lets hook up... I am coming down that way this week and I also have to go to southgate.. im buying drinks!

[Panic]

lol. Damn, John. You know how many people are shaking in their skin because of this thread? Right now, they are cowering by the window, with the lights off, looking through their blinds for suspicious looking vehicles. Although Creditwagering is a risky book to join, I dont think the Feds will be knocking down peoples doors if they get personal information. They will simply be going after the big fish that started it. As far as, being in the USA, man, what a dangerous game to play. Not only legally, but also from the point of the players. You cant tell me that some pissed off stiff wont find out where they are and take matters in his own hands if these guys push to hard. And with these guys showing photos on the internet, it only sets itself up for a bad situation. Some barrelled in motherfvcker will snap.

[SlickFazzer]

CW not worth the risk, stay away.

[pokernut9999]

lol. Damn, John. You know how many people are shaking in their skin because of this thread? Right now, they are cowering by the window, with the lights off, looking through their blinds for suspicious looking vehicles. Although Creditwagering is a risky book to join, I dont think the Feds will be knocking down peoples doors if they get personal information. They will simply be going after the big fish that started it. As far as, being in the USA, man, what a dangerous game to play. Not only legally, but also from the point of the players. You cant tell me that some pissed off stiff wont find out where they are and take matters in his own hands if these guys push to hard. And with these guys showing photos on the internet, it only sets itself up for a bad situation. Some barrelled in motherfvcker will snap.

Lets hope your endorsement last night did not encourage many sign -ups today.

[Panic]

What do you want me to say, Poker? Listen everyone, STAY AWAY FROM CW! Is that better? I dont endorse any book...sorry.

[big joe 1212]

SBR's in CR, I thought they were in Texas? Not sure why Feds would bust you for a few hundred you won sports gambling during the year, seems a lil excessive but I guess anything's possible

the feds wont bother the players.. isnt it illegal to accept bets, but not illegal to place them?

[pokernut9999]

What do you want me to say, Poker? Listen everyone, STAY AWAY FROM CW! Is that better? I dont endorse any book...sorry.

My point is when someone does not or has not played at a book they should not voice their opinions good or bad.

[big joe 1212]

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Ben says:
Hello jjgold. My name is Ben how can I help you?
jjgold says:
yeah what country is credit wagering ran out of?
Ben says:
costa rica

tell them you want to send a cashiers check.. then we will see where they are....oh yeah you cant.....SHADY!!!
they dont accept money that way??? SHADY!!!

[Panic]

My point is when someone does not or has not played at a book they should not voice their opinions good or bad.

Understandable. But this a forum that shares info with each other. When people are saying they have been paid by X. Customer service is friendly at X. And so on...And then in comes someone a few weeks later asking about them, is everyone supposed to be quiet? If they havent played there, even though they've heard things? What about if they heard a book was a scam? Should they not tell someone what they heard? Or what, just let the guy get ripped off because they dont have first hand knowledge?

[pokernut9999]

Understandable. But this a forum that shares info with each other. When people are saying they have been paid by X. Customer service is friendly at X. And so on...And then in comes someone a few weeks later asking about them, is everyone supposed to be quiet? If they havent played there, even though they've heard things? What about if they heard a book was a scam? Should they not tell someone what they heard? Or what, just let the guy get ripped off because they dont have first hand knowledge?

But you do not follow what you just posted. Last night you said you have never heard anything bad about CW. There has been 1000's of posts good and bad. That being the case your judgement looks bad when there has been a ton of negative posts. Just do not get why people post things that are so far off base is all.

[Panic]

But you do not follow what you just posted. Last night you said you have never heard anything bad about CW. There has been 1000's of posts good and bad. That being the case your judgement looks bad when there has been a ton of negative posts. Just do not get why people post things that are so far off base is all.

Show me the 1000 bad posts. And I bet most of them came from when they were getting started and people were new to the idea. I have yet to see a 1000 post negative thread on them in the last few months. So far as I've seen people are getting paid, have received atm cards, and everything has went smoothly. The first thread i saw on a payout problem was posted tonight and the situation was rectified later by them. Seems better than alot of books out there. But once again, let me say. I DO NOT SPEAK FROM FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE. ENTER THIS SITE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

[SBR Lou]

I don't expect John to endorse them, if I were in his position I wouldn't either. As a player all I can say is they've paid me when I've won, and I've settled my losses as well.

Whether or not they crash and burn in the future is anybody's guess, but I don't think players have anything to worry about from a legal perspective. The onus would be on CW should they be based in an illegal jurisdiction, which I really have no idea if they are or aren't.

[SBR_John]

Like a few of you guys said there is nothing illegal about placing bets but you could still get tied up in this when it goes bad. You could be contacted as a witness or to make a sworn statement. This kind of operation really pisses the wrong people off. I just think it would be smart to keep your personal info from them.

[pokernut9999]

Show me the 1000 bad posts. And I bet most of them came from when they were getting started and people were new to the idea. I have yet to see a 1000 post negative thread on them in the last few months. So far as I've seen people are getting paid, have received atm cards, and everything has went smoothly. The first thread i saw on a payout problem was posted tonight and the situation was rectified later by them. Seems better than alot of books out there. But once again, let me say. I DO NOT SPEAK FROM FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE. ENTER THIS SITE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Dont worry , I am smart enough to do my own research and smart enough to know who has a clue and who does not here on this forum. If you honestly have never heard a bad thing about CW before today than I really wonder about you.

[pokernut9999]

Why play at a book that restricts what you can win ?

Makes no sense at all to me

[Panic]

Not saying I havent heard a bad thing, Pokernut. But I've also heard a bad thing about BetJam, about 5 Dimes,about...every book. So what should I do? Say they all suck? I'll tell you this, up until tonight, I have not seen a thread of some getting stiffed by CW. Have you? If you have, please post it. Also when I see guys like Crazyl, IWin, Topgame, and others here, say they have been paid then i listen. These guys I trust. They would have no reason to bullsh!t people here.

[Panic]

And I'm not trying to be a dickhead. If there is a post about someone getting stiffed by them, I haven't seen it and would like to.

[flyingillini]

I heard about a person taking peoples information from a place where they worked. The people were signing up at Internet Cafe's, Libraries and other places where the IP address would be different. If they lost oh well. If they won they would produce the persons ID because they had access to it from their work. I have no clue if this is true but it was mentioned to me by a fellow poster. He is right on with his information and we both agreed it is very bad if it is true and the poor saps that lost then their information was posted on the internet and they weren't even gamblers!! That is some serious stuff right there if that is going on..

[Nicky Santoro]

THIS MAN HERE MUST BE DEPRESSED AS HELL AND PROBABLY IS DRINKING 44 BEERS IN THE LAST 3 HRS AS WE SPEAK. THIS NEWS MUST BE EATING HIM UP..

WILL HE CONTINUE TO PROMOTE CW IN HIS VIDS?

YES -155
NO +135


ONLY REASON YES IS FAVORED IS BECAUSE THEY ARE OFFERING FREE 50 DOLLAR PARLAYS EACH TIME HE MENTIONS THEM IN HIS VID..

I FEEL BAD FOR RICHIE BECAUSE HE LOVES HIS CW..

[Panic]

Thats some serious sh!t, Fly. If thats happening then its only a matter of time before they're gonna. And the funny thing is, its because of the players that tried to fvck 'em, not anything they did.

[pokernut9999]

And I'm not trying to be a dickhead. If there is a post about someone getting stiffed by them, I haven't seen it and would like to.

Getting stiffed is not the main thing right now , it is why all the deception and what may happen later down the road.

Why give all your personal info to a complete stranger that you have no idea who they are , where they are, and they have no phone ?


Remember pyramid scemes ? People keep getting paid over and over for so long then boom, all gone.

There business model is so flawed it is insane. I am sure in time they will hope people will post up 5k to have a 11k credit limit and then watch out. It looks enticing does it not ?

Why send 5k to an A book when you can send it to them and have 11k limit. In order to scam people you have to pay first and I would be very skeptical midway thru football.

You can not give 1k credit to every Tom , Dick and Harry
and survive.

I still find it strange that BigBoyDan discovered them when no one else ever heard of them.

[Panic]

Richie has spent 12 years in the joint, Nicky. This to him is like a walk in the park. He probably lives for this sh!t. Makes him feel alive. He will probably increase his CW promoting now.