Why do Americans DESPISE soccer?.

[woodg8]

I'm sure that would be the case, but some of the reasons for it are pretty dumb. I mean, they aren't athletes? Where the hell did you come up with that? Offsides are stupid? Yeah, let's just have 10 strikers standing next to the goal the whole game.

I suppose the reason why americans don't like it because there isn't always a "winner".

[Nicky Santoro]

woodward,

offsides are stupid in soccer. you never see 3 goals in hockey in one game being disallowed on acct of offside.. ONLY in soccer.. at least in hockey, we hear a freakin whistle.. unlike soccer where they score, then we hear it was offside 6 seconds later, and we never heard a whistle.

when the players score, they don't even know it's offside.. what does that tell you? woody, i was trying to be nice, but i am pissed now woodward.. i am going to bed now cause it's late, but you got me mad now, so i will say this to you..and i mean it from the bottom of my heart..


SOCCER SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[woodg8]

Ignorance is bliss.

[Dark Horse]

It's a cultural difference. You will not find one single person, anywhere in the world, who has excellent ball skills with his feet (and the rest of his body except his hands), who will say that soccer sucks. Most American men couldn't do anything with their feet and a ball, so in typical American fashion they blame it on the ball.

The most non-happening of the big sports, by far, is baseball; a throw-back to the pace of life a century ago. But even that changes when you put money on a game. And that should probably be the main concern on a gambling forum. Can you make money with a sport or not? Again, as with the athletes themselves, I challenge you to find a winning bettor in any sport who will talk about that sport without appreciation.

From what I understand the World and Euro cups present some of the best betting opportunities in all of sports.

[jjgold]

I can hold my own in a professional soccer game as a defender and no one would even know the difference. Kicking ball is the easiest non athletic thing you can do. In America failed athletes play soccer or guys that do not want the pressure of the big sports. Soccer is a bunch of gypsies and green horns running around chasing a ball screaming like maniacs and have no clue what is going on in society.

[Willie Bee]

why do americans hate soccer so much?

It's not that I hate soccer, Nicky. It's just that I didn't grow up with it, don't really understand it in terms of the strategy involved, and simply don't have any extra time in my schedule these days to squeeze it in. I enjoyed myself tremendously at the World Cup match I went to in 1994 between Brazil and the Netherlands, and if I'd been born in Southern France, West Germany, Northern Italy or anywhere in the Far East instead of South Texas, I'd probably follow the sport as closely just as I do baseball.

because they suck at it !!

Now see, this is the least likely correct answer of them all. We suck at other things and don't let that deter us. Take our foreign policy in the Middle East, for example. Everyone says we suck at that, but when was the last time we were deterred? Besides, the American women's team wasn't too shabby a while back from what I remember.

[treece]

Soccer is big in all of the world, because they don't have the money to play the sports we do, like baseball, football hockey, you can get a crap bal, and kick it all over the place! A very boring game. I appreciate all the aspects of the game, but as we see with hockey you can't get people to watch games that the only chance of scoring is once every 30 min

Is England poor? Just look at all the footballers from that country, they all have money to the ceiling and fine broads lined up for miles. David Beckam is a perfect example, the guy makes money hand over fist, has a trophy wife and has a few dime pieces on the side. The US national team gets such special treatment so they can qualify for the World Cup. Having two games against a weak Barbados team, they might as well just give them the 2 wins before they even play. The US also fcked this whole football thing up. Calling american football, football and world football, soccer. In american football nobody uses their foot at all besides the kicker or punter, wtf? Makes no sense, they should call that soccer. In world football all they use is their foot, makes sense to call it football.

[woodg8]

I can hold my own in a professional soccer game as a defender and no one would even know the difference. Kicking ball is the easiest non athletic thing you can do. In America failed athletes play soccer or guys that do not want the pressure of the big sports. Soccer is a bunch of gypsies and green horns running around chasing a ball screaming like maniacs and have no clue what is going on in society.

Bunch of gypsies screaming like maniacs? Think you'll find that's NFL. Bunch of fat ****ers jumping around on each other screaming "THAT'S HOW WE DO", "STRAIGHT GANGSTA".

In no other sport in the world would a 500pound fat cunt be able to play a professional sport, and at the top level too.

[treece]

World football players are the most fit athletes in all sports. You have to be since they run a few miles every game. You never see a fat football player. In Baseball however there is so many fat slobs. Hockey players are the 2nd most fit athelets, basketball is 3rd, 4th is baseball and lastly american football out of the 5 major sports.

[RageWizard]

O.K. I'm an American and I gave the Euro futball thing a chance. Here is why I don't like soccer.

1. Not a fan friendly game. Sure there are no comercials or time outs, or anything to stop the clock, so when is it a safe time for me to get up and get a beer from the frig. I have to have a cooler and a bed pan next to the ez-chair.

2. 90 minutes of play but no scoring. WTF they need some more scoring, maybe get rid of the goalie or start letting them use steroids.

3. Where's the violence? Except in the stands, there is almost no violent hits or cheap shots, and when someone gets grazed, they flop around like someone stole there liver or something. Get up pussy and deliver a retaliation hit instead of rolling around on the ground from that elbow.

4. Again 90 minutes of play then 2 15 minute overtime periods ( not even sudden death by the way), then a shoot out for the winner of the game. This is a playoff game not a regular season or what ever they call it over there. So the playoff game comes down to a skills competition. Could you imagine the Super Bowl having a punt, pass, or kick thing after the score is tyied after 1 short overtime period. How about a homerun derbyin the World series instead of a 10th inning. Play until someone scores asshats, the skill stuff just makes a cheap game.

5. How the fvck can you bet this stuff, yeah I'll take Germany -1/2 for the win. Then when you see the score is 1-0 in spains favor, yor done, another bow out loss. Really get some more scoring.

[treece]

4. Again 90 minutes of play then 2 15 minute overtime periods ( not even sudden death by the way), then a shoot out for the winner of the game. This is a playoff game not a regular season or what ever they call it over there. So the playoff game comes down to a skills competition. Could you imagine the Super Bowl having a punt, pass, or kick thing after the score is tyied after 1 short overtime period. How about a homerun derbyin the World series instead of a 10th inning. Play until someone scores asshats, the skill stuff just makes a cheap game.

They should change that rule so that they keep playing 45 minute periods until someone wins when its past the group stage. Make it sudden death just like the hockey playoff games. Shootouts suck because they kick the ball from like 10 feet from the goal.

[woodg8]

They used to have golden goal about 10 years ago, which was the first team to score in extra time wins. It was shit, thus, it was scrapped.

[RageWizard]

They used to have golden goal about 10 years ago, which was the first team to score in extra time wins. It was shit, thus, it was scrapped.

Why would you say it was shit? All they need to do is play until someone scores. It isn't the American's fault that the Europeans like a sports with no scoring. Shoot outs are cheap, and degrade the VIEWER or FAN.

[pavyracer]

They used to have golden goal about 10 years ago, which was the first team to score in extra time wins. It was shit, thus, it was scrapped.

If I remember correctly Greece won a semifinal in Euro 2004 on a golden goal scored in extra-time against the Czech. It wasn't that bad of a rule.

[woodg8]

I don't think anyone's disagreeing that Shootouts are an unfair to win, England a my team Spurs have lost a number of time on Penalties, but those be the rules. Playing for more than 30 minutes extra time would be pretty ****ed for the players. They aren't machines, they're humans. I don't think any player in any sport could run around constantly for over 120 minutes.

Golden goal was shit because it was ridiculously unfair. General consensus was that noone liked it, so they got rid of it. Americans may not like it, and I'm obviously not gonna change your already made up minds, but that's how it is.

I did find this funny though:

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1. Not a fan friendly game. Sure there are no comercials or time outs, or anything to stop the clock, so when is it a safe time for me to get up and get a beer from the frig. I have to have a cooler and a bed pan next to the ez-chair."

Pretty much sums up the american fan. Fat lazy people

[woodg8]

If I remember correctly Greece won a semifinal in Euro 2004 on a golden goal scored in extra-time against the Czech. It wasn't that bad of a rule.

That wasn't a golden goal. That was in normal time. Golden goal has been scrapped ever since Euro 96.

[pavyracer]

1. Not a fan friendly game. Sure there are no comercials or time outs, or anything to stop the clock, so when is it a safe time for me to get up and get a beer from the frig. I have to have a cooler and a bed pan next to the ez-chair."

Pretty much sums up the american fan. Fat lazy people

If my team is losing I lose my appetite and I can't eat or drink the rest of the game.

Typical American: His team concedes a TD or a HR. Let's go get a beer and a piece of lard from the cooler.

[RageWizard]

I did find this funny though:

"
1. Not a fan friendly game. Sure there are no comercials or time outs, or anything to stop the clock, so when is it a safe time for me to get up and get a beer from the frig. I have to have a cooler and a bed pan next to the ez-chair."

Pretty much sums up the american fan. Fat lazy people

Yeah we are fat and lazy alright. Hell some local governments have started to take out trans fat away because we are so freaking fat. Since I am thin it pisses me off so now I don't feel bad for ripping on the fat asses around me.

But seriously, the timing of the game is so hap hazard that you can't trust the games to be the same length of time. As a gambler, I would find it hard to bet an over/under on soccer especially when I don't know how long the game is really going to last. I noticed that coming towards the end of the game, if the ball goes out of bounds and the team that is winning gets to throw it in, they will dick around for as long as possible before they throw it in. I have never seen a penalty come out of the excessive stalling, and I doubt that the ref has a stop watch to time this stuff. Even if he did, it should be relayed to the fans for disclosure purposes to give the sportsbettor some credible feelings about how the game is officiated.

[nasdaq888]

If I remember correctly Greece won a semifinal in Euro 2004 on a golden goal scored in extra-time against the Czech. It wasn't that bad of a rule.

Pavy, it was the silver goal that decided that match between Greece and the Czech Republic. Dellas scored the winner for Greece in the last few seconds of the first period of extra time.

The two dramatic golden goals in the Euros were in the 1996 Final whereby Oliver Bierhoff scored the winner for Germany in their 2-1 win vs the Czech Republic, and in the 2000 Final whereby David Trezequet scored the winner for France in their 2-1 win vs Italy.

[nasdaq888]

That wasn't a golden goal. That was in normal time. Golden goal has been scrapped ever since Euro 96.

The golden goal rule was replaced by the silver goal rule after 2002 and the silver goal rule was also scrapped altogether after Euro 2004.

[woodg8]

I don't think you've been paying much attention then, as they show on the 90th minute the amount of injury time that's gonna be played because of time wasted/substitutions. The ref does have a stop watch to count up the added seconds. Each game is 90 minutes, it's only in these international tournaments and in cup games that there's a chance of extra time.

Betting on over/under on football is pretty foolish in my book. I never do it.

[RageWizard]

I don't care if it was a golden goal, golden shower, or even a silver bullet, play until someone scores. Maybe they can take a couple of players off the field for each overtime and allow some more subs to come in. Don't give me this shit about tired players, how much do they make? If they played until someone scored, Americans would at least respect that even though we still won't watch.

[RageWizard]

I don't think you've been paying much attention then, as they show on the 90th minute the amount of injury time that's gonna be played because of time wasted/substitutions. The ref does have a stop watch to count up the added seconds. Each game is 90 minutes, it's only in these international tournaments and in cup games that there's a chance of extra time.

Betting on over/under on football is pretty foolish in my book. I never do it.

Yeah they say the ref has added 3 or 4 minutes to the game. Well then as the game in in progress, I would like to see the added time adding up.

When you say betting over/Unders are you talking american style football or euro style? O/U in the NFL are some down right beauties in certain situations that are the best play to make.

[nasdaq888]

I don't think you've been paying much attention then, as they show on the 90th minute the amount of injury time that's gonna be played because of time wasted/substitutions. The ref does have a stop watch to count up the added seconds. Each game is 90 minutes, it's only in these international tournaments and in cup games that there's a chance of extra time.

Betting on over/under on football is pretty foolish in my book. I never do it.

Woodg8, don't waste your time arguing with these ignorant Yanks. They will never understand and appreciate the game of Football and we will never accept American Football, Baseball, Basketball, and Ice Hockey as our sporting passions.

[RageWizard]

Woodg8, don't waste your time arguing with these ignorant Yanks. They will never understand and appreciate the game of Football and we will never accept American Football, Baseball, Basketball, and Ice Hockey as our sporting passions.

Your mostly correct. We will never enjoy the world's game. They keep getting a couple of popular players to come over here to save the game in america, and we don't give a shit. First it was a washed up Peele, now it is the Get bent like Beckham dude. They gave these dudes all kinds of dough and still nothing. So enjoy your game fellas knowing that you will never have to endure an american team that is worth a shit to play against.

[woodg8]

Woodg8, don't waste your time arguing with these ignorant Yanks. They will never understand and appreciate the game of Football and we will never accept American Football, Baseball, Basketball, and Ice Hockey as our sporting passions.

It's interesting to see how they perceive sport. Quite funny really some of the crap that being banded about.

[pavyracer]

The funny think about the Yankees is that they don't understand the soccer offside rule, yet can someone ****ing tell me what's a strike or what's a ball in baseball when you are sitting on the upper bleachers of Turner field like I do? Or can someone tell me what's holding in football and how do I get to see it from the upper bleachers of Georgia Dome?

The rules of football and baseball are far more complicated than soccer for the average fan to see when is at the stadium.

[Dark Horse]

Who pulled out the old soccer recording? Talk about bo-ring.

Some of us had a nice enough Euro 2008.

[RageWizard]

The funny think about the Yankees is that they don't understand the soccer offside rule, yet can someone ****ing tell me what's a strike or what's a ball in baseball when you are sitting on the upper bleachers of Turner field like I do? Or can someone tell me what's holding in football and how do I get to see it from the upper bleachers of Georgia Dome?

The rules of football and baseball are far more complicated than soccer for the average fan to see when is at the stadium.

Its not that we don't understand the off sides rule. It is the reasoning for it. A guy gets behind your last defensive dude in order to try to score is a good thing unless you like a sport with no scoring. I say blame the defense for this, you let him get behind you and your trying to defend your goal so why call the offensive player for the penalty unless you don't like scoring in a game because you may wake up from your nap.

[pavyracer]

Its not that we don't understand the off sides rule. It is the reasoning for it. A guy gets behind your last defensive dude in order to try to score is a good thing unless you like a sport with no scoring. I say blame the defense for this, you let him get behind you and your trying to defend your goal so why call the offensive player for the penalty unless you don't like scoring in a game because you may wake up from your nap.

There is a reason for the offside rule. It's needed to prevent cherry pickers from camping in the box and not running. If there was no offside rule there wouldn't be any midfield players. All you'd need to have is 9 offensive players and a defender punting the ball from defense all the time and the ball will be up in the air all the time.

[treece]

Anybody remember when Colombia took on USA in the 94 World Cup and the Colombian player scored an own goal. The guy got shot like a dozen times in a bar in Colombia a week later. Now the guy that killed him is out, he got out in 05. Colombia...what a country.

Colombia's Andras Escobar paid the ultimate price for his own-goal against the U.S. when he and his teammates returned home in disgrace after being knocked out in the first round.
On July 2, less than two weeks after the U.S. game, the Colombian defender was assassinated in brutal fashion for his mistake, gunned down outside a restaurant in a suburb of Medellin. According to his girlfriend, the killer callously shouted "goal" for each of the 12 bullets he fired into Escobar. Humberto Munoz Castro was found guilty of Escobar's murder in June 1995 and sentenced to 43 years in prison. The sentence was later reduced to 26 years due to his submitting to the ruling penal code, but Munoz was controversially released from prison in 2005 after serving approximately 11 years of his sentence.The brutal murder of the 27-year-old Escobar, who was negotiating to sign with Italian club AC Milan at the time, still casts a macabre shroud over the World Cup and the game of soccer to this day.

[pavyracer]

Don't forget Bronco's Darrent Williams or Redskins Sean Taylor, both gunned down recently in NFL.

[RageWizard]

Don't forget Bronco's Darrent Williams or Redskins Sean Taylor, both gunned down recently in NFL.

They weren't shot because of crappy play on the field.

[pavyracer]

They weren't shot because of crappy play on the field.

Worse. They were shot by gang violence! The other one was a passionate fan's stupidity. Do I take it that you approve gang violence?

[RageWizard]

Worse. They were shot by gang violence! The other one was a passionate fan's stupidity. Do I take it that you approve gang violence?

Not really but they are just practicing what we do best here in the states which is kill people. You got to admit we are the best at this and I for 1 am proud of the fact that we do it so efficiently.