Does anyone here believe in christ?

[spankie]

I could probably list a hundred things that prove the existence of God to me without a shadow of a doubt. That's what Romans says. Duh.

Atheists are never going to be convinced by oral arguments when they see the creation and still don't believe. I won't waste my time.

Ur fuking nuts.

Gods are aliens. doh.

[Rod1010]

For real Rod?
This is sarcasm right?

A fart is also invisible but you know it's there.

Amazing, huh?

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

[Vegas_bond]

A believer myself. My Faith has grown bigger since I started to gamble.

[antifoil]

yeah i think most everyone believe jesus was a person. he is a prophet to the muslims.

[PLAYA-PLAYA]

I BELIEVE-----THANK The GOOD LORD EVERY DAY ---FOR HIS PROTECTION ---GUIDANCE---AND BLESSINGS---

[TheMoneyShot]

It's actually unknown who wrote many books in the Bible. For example the book of Matthew, was NOT written by the disciple Matthew. It was actually written 70+ years AFTER the supposed death of Jesus. Same for the other gospels. Just because the Bible has "Mark" or "Luke" written at the start of a chapter, Christians assume (wrongfully) that the book was written by that person...as if they just found the Bible under a rock one day and started printing it. In reality the authors of a lot of books in the Bible are unknown, and after being written they were copied, translated, re-copied, re-translated, etc. The books have been changed a lot over the years, not to mention the fact that they contain a lot of contradictions. I'm not attacking you Moneyshot, it just amazes me how many Christians don't really understand their Bibles. Muslims will make the same argument for Muhammed. Buddhists will say the same for Siddartha Guatama. It holds no weight when you really think about it.

I don't take offense to your post. Yes, I agree there was a series of information that was added... but again... in what year? My point is... this again was B.C. times. Whoever orchestrated and completed the Bible did a wonderful job. There was corruption, issues, deception even back during B.C. times. If this was all make believe... then why put so much time into the Bible? Why does the Bible have so many pages of evidence? Why not a book with just 50 pages? The Bible has 1100-1400+ pages. Why create a story back then??? They didn't have anything better to do? And then... why push this story all the way to the present age? I'll agree... religion like Catholic society is decreasing in numbers... probably due to the fact that priests moleste children etc.. those are just sick people. It's unfortunately they bear the white collar... it's not right. You are suppose to be a man of God. But with the internet... media... and the way news travels... this stuff could of been going on in other areas... but we never heard about it 20 years ago? But people still believed in their Religion. It's the garbage you hear on the news each and every day that is corrupting a weak mind. It brainwashes us ever so slightly.

[ThaWoj]

Once again, where in this post do you see I make the claim that Muhammad is a God?
The idea that each Abrahamic religion (Islam, Judaism, Christianity) believe in the same exact God is debated. Besides, I never disagreed in the first place. You brought it up to look smart or something, I'm not sure what your point is by bringing this up.
No need to get all worked up pal. I never made the claim to have the answer to have everything. I'm simply trying to discuss religion with solid logic, but you're letting your emotions get the best of you.

And good job not responding to any of my other points, I figured that would happen.

Originally Posted by Iced
There are thousands of Gods and deities that have been invented throughout humanity.

Atheists/agnostics don't believe in any of those thousands of Gods.

Christians don't believe in any of those thousands of Gods either.

Well, minus one. Curious to see how their process of elimination brought them to Yahweh rather than Rah, Zeus, or Muhammad.

maybe youll get it the 3rd time...

[ThaWoj]

yeah i think most everyone believe jesus was a person. he is a prophet to the muslims.

yes this is correct antifoil. they believe He was a prophet but they dont believe that He was the son of God. they dont believe in God having a son or any children. and to them Muhammad the prophet comes 1st (in importance and how he is perceived) and then Jesus.

[Iced]

Originally Posted by Iced
There are thousands of Gods and deities that have been invented throughout humanity.

Atheists/agnostics don't believe in any of those thousands of Gods.

Christians don't believe in any of those thousands of Gods either.

Well, minus one. Curious to see how their process of elimination brought them to Yahweh rather than Rah, Zeus, or Muhammad.

maybe youll get it the 3rd time...

Nope. Apparently you don't understand what an independent clause is. The two bolded statements do not follow from each other. It's pretty simple logic. Now, if you'd like to offer up an argument for the existence of God, I'd love to listen. However, it seems as though your best argument at the moment revolves around whether or not I said Muhammad is a God. If you understood logic or grammar even at the slightest, you wouldn't be making yourself look silly attempting to prove that I said something.

Keep engaging in semantics though, I enjoy it. You are clearly not intelligent or intellectual enough to offer up an argument for the existence of God. Better not speak than let yourself appear as ignorant, I like the strategy.

[Albert Pujols]

The Bible continues to reveal the wicked things in my heart that I didn't know were there. One example recently is when I go through a yellow light and then 3 cars behind me go through that same light. I then get filled with anger and judgment towards them. But I've done it before and so my judgment is just me being a hypocrite. That may seem small, but I would have never realized that wickedness was in my heart back when I thought I was a good person.

There is so much wisdom in the Bible. It changes lives.

[onetrickpony]

The Bible continues to reveal the wicked things in my heart that I didn't know were there. One example recently is when I go through a yellow light and then 3 cars behind me go through that same light. I then get filled with anger and judgment towards them. But I've done it before and so my judgment is just me being a hypocrite. That may seem small, but I would have never realized that wickedness was in my heart back when I thought I was a good person. There is so much wisdom in the Bible. It changes lives.

this guy is so funny keep going pal, any other life changing stories?

u seeing any angels lately?

[Albert Pujols]

this guy is so funny keep going pal, any other life changing stories?

u seeing any angels lately?

Read the Bible for yourself. At least then you will know what you are rejecting.

[onetrickpony]

Read the Bible for yourself. At least then you will know what you are rejecting.

nah id rather use that as rolling paper

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Thats ok when I go to Heaven I will ask God to save you.

[King Mayan]

nah id rather use that as rolling paper

Calm down OTP....

Nobody is bashing your religion....

[Albert Pujols]

nah id rather use that as rolling paper

Well, God loves you. Have a good night. Go Cards.

[onetrickpony]

Calm down OTP.... Nobody is bashing your religion....

wouldnt phase me if i believed in anything

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

ur a fool get help soon pal

Jesus loves you...he really does..he died on the cross for your sins..give in to him he is the light.

[King Mayan]

wouldnt phase me if i believed in anything

It would...

You're just young and enjoying life...

Once you get older, maybe you'll see it differently...

But if you don't, more power to you....

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Yea I was saved just this year im 41 i see now that I was lost ..having jesus in my life has calmed my inner storm and brought peace

[onetrickpony]

It would... You're just young and enjoying life... Once you get older, maybe you'll see it differently... But if you don't, more power to you....

those days are over i use to believe in that but everything being natural makes more sense to me

[King Mayan]

those days are over i use to believe in that but everything being natural makes more sense to me

Well, that's what you believe..

And if anybody tells you, that what you believe is wrong is full of shit.

[Bengals28]

Fellow believer here as well. Glad jesus died on the cross for me!

[onetrickpony]

Well, that's what you believe.. And if anybody tells you, that what you believe is wrong is full of shit.

[topgame85]

There does not need to be ANY proof of God to be one and for one to believe in him. It is called FAITH. Our lord and saviour Jesus Christ cares not whether you believe in him and loves you all the same. He died for our sins and should you accept him you will one day walk in his kingdom. There is zero evidence that God does not exist, only disturbed, weak, misinformed, or unfortunate individuals which make it their primary objective to attack the faith of others by calling them ignorant or stupid. Something can not come from nothing and thus one way or another there IS a creator or God, I have yet to meet anyone who can explaing where the universe began if not from a supreme being or entity. Explosion of gases bla bla well where did those gases come from? Something is and has always been..... Whether you believe that to be the christian God and Jesus being his son is your choice and I can not change your mind if you don't. I will however pray for the Lord to shine mercy on you and bring you up out of the darkness with a sign of miracle one day. The world is not a perfect place, I am nowhere near a perfect christian, and there is not proof nor does there need to be. The argument that believers are dumb or irrational is ridiculous because the opposing side has no more of a rational argument. Believe what you must to get through the day but those that know the Lord can feel his existence inside their soul. I have overcome great adversity through prayer, faith and hope and have seen great miracles performed amongst friends and family many times. The world will never be perfect because satan is a very real force on earth as this is his domain and heaven is the kingdom of God, evil will happen to test your faith daily and those good many whom do pass away to early or suffer great hardship will be rewarded with everlasting life. God Bless.

[Dr.Gonzo]

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[ChileCheese]

I once ran out of tissues in my hotel room, so i came in the bible.

[Dr.Gonzo]

I once ran out of tissues in my hotel room, so i came in the bible.

[Iced]

[RudyRuetigger]

i never understood why people always argue about this.

[topgame85]

Claim God does not exist demand proof that you are wrong.... no difference in what you claim against believers.... everyone believe what you want. Only sick people go out of their way to berate people of faith. Although we were all created equal in the image of our maker you all managed to deviate to a lower form of being. Where did the stars and elements come from pal? Even if you believe that is the origin of creation which it undoubtedly is not.... you can not answer that. The fact is that the people who try so hard to prove they are right are almost always those that are wrong. I have nothing to prove nor does any Christian. And you certainly can not prove your argument either. Our job is not to prove anything to anyone only to have faith and do our best to live right. Is it not the key tenant of Science and Math something does not "exist" until you can have a proof for it? So then how do all you science and math guys claim to know the answer when there is no proof one or the other? Believers do not need a proof because we know the truth. So until you quit being hypocrites and discrediting your arguments you should move on to another topic.

[Dr.Gonzo]

It's amusing to me how Christianity has had to revert to the edges of science. They used to claim to posses all worthwhile knowledge now they claim they have nothing to prove