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**HedgeHog** · 02-21-11, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Typical Willie B logic...
This thread was moving along just great, until SBR moved it to Player's Talk.

First they ban the guy (namely LGO) and then they (namely WB) later move the thread because the talk w/i the thread isn't about college picks anymore. Duh, maybe it's because the OP can't post in his own pick thread.

This is the kind of crap that happens when you give a hillbilly a little power.

**Maverick11** · 02-21-11, 06:18 PM

Thanks Gee.

**sapidoc** · 02-21-11, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

First they ban the guy and then they (namely WB) later move the thread because the talk w/i the thread isn't about college picks anymore. Duh, maybe it's because the OP can't post in his own pick thread.

This is the kind of crap that happens when you give a hillbilly a little power.

Willie Bee is actually pretty reasonable in my experience. I had a situation the other day and although it didn't start out great, I just talked it through and explained my point and its (somewhat) better now.

At this point it looks like there's a lack of communicaiton or misunderstanding between both parties and unfortunately not a lot of motivation to resolve it.

**RobinTim** · 02-21-11, 06:24 PM

Hey,I've been away for a bit....wheres LGO been?

**zipzip22** · 02-21-11, 06:26 PM

@circasystem tweet------

**HedgeHog** · 02-21-11, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by sapidoc

Willie Bee is actually pretty reasonable in my experience. I had a situation the other day and although it didn't start out great, I just talked it through and explained my point and its (somewhat) better now.

At this point it looks like there's a lack of communicaiton or misunderstanding between both parties and unfortunately not a lot of motivation to resolve it.

Kind of hard to communicate when one of the parties is banned from the site. I respect your opinion, and I used to share it, but WB has become a cranky old fart with little tolerance.

**Dark Horse** · 02-21-11, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

First they ban the guy (namely LGO) and then they (namely WB) later move the thread because the talk w/i the thread isn't about college picks anymore. Duh, maybe it's because the OP can't post in his own pick thread.

This is the kind of crap that happens when you give a hillbilly a little power.

It is remarkable that SBR was able to locate the one thread with winning picks and completely butcher it.

I recently read, from SBR John, that SBR will filter out certain words, if books request that they're not used...

You do the math.

**sapidoc** · 02-21-11, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Kind of hard to communicate when one of the parties is banned from the site. I respect your opinion, and I used to share it, but WB has become a cranky old fart with little tolerance.

Yea I mean it could be resolved through email and not on the forum. Like i said tho, seems like there is little motivation to resolve anything at this point, which is too bad.

**GmCrazy** · 02-21-11, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by daimoshokage

According to a reliable source.. LGO is EL STUGOTO of RX.. He made an account here in SBR with the same name.. Created another one which is LGO.. And now he is banned because of ghosting.. Clear?

I looked him up over there, he doesn't post there anymore as he was caught having multiple ghosts there as well. They linked a thread to one here at SBR where LGO is busted for ghosting: http://forum.sbrforum.com/ncaa-baske...8-6-1-ytd.html

**GmCrazy** · 02-21-11, 07:09 PM

Pretty sad that he had a good follwing and was there over 2 years, The just of all the threads is pretyy much summed up in this one when he left:

Originally posted by yurnero

after these last few weeks of all this and "tracking" i must come to say THANK YOU RX for exposing this scrub. i was one of his bootlicks, etc, or whatever you call it because i came to the RX right when he was on a hot streak. he didnt post overall records or have a season long post.... i bought into his ways and believed in him. now that he is totally exposed, LYING about his records, going something like 1-5 in the NFL playoffs for -6000, and all the other developments... i must say again, thx RX for weeding out the trash

**Aristocles** · 02-21-11, 07:33 PM

Interesting and very possibly accurate assessment of the situation in #2179.

What I do not get is the abdication of personal responsibility of the pitiful being in #2180. What kind of an idiot blames or credits an internet forum for parsing his gambling touts? Is this what it has really come to? Grown volk need an internet forum to hand hold and prune. . . the nanny forum? Worse yet, this poor soul seems to act as if it is anyone's but his own fault if he loses his cash following some forum guru providing free picks. The fellow grasps what he has done but seems uncertain where the entirety of blame belongs.

**losturmarbles** · 02-21-11, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

First they ban the guy (namely LGO) and then they (namely WB) later move the thread because the talk w/i the thread isn't about college picks anymore. Duh, maybe it's because the OP can't post in his own pick thread.

This is the kind of crap that happens when you give a hillbilly a little power.

**lostmarbles** · 02-21-11, 09:02 PM

Or....

Originally posted by Dark Horse

It is remarkable that SBR was able to locate the one thread with winning picks and completely butcher it.

I recently read, from SBR John, that SBR will filter out certain words, if books request that they're not used...

You do the math.

More like, the books are in SBR pockets, and vice versa as they are paying SBR to promote them?... Sounds like a married situation to me. So yeah, why would they want a winning system on here to take money from them, (books). Next thing they'll do is look where his IP address is located at, and ban it at various book's blacklists too. Naw, they don't do that any more, do they? <EG>. (He just need to ghost his IP address like the hackers do nowadays if need be). I'm probably over my head on this one but, who knows. It's all about money again...? Right?

**Gee** · 02-21-11, 09:06 PM

SO....

3/3 to start the day. I'm not arguing with results.

**Aristocles** · 02-21-11, 09:11 PM

Gee:

For the love of decency mate, the guy is a troll. Send your winnings back

**Joe Dogs** · 02-21-11, 09:26 PM

I was sleeping at the wheel and caught W.carolina-4,push....Damn

Looks like a good night for the circa system.

**Gee** · 02-21-11, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by Aristocles

Gee: For the love of decency mate, the guy is a troll. Send your winnings back

I'll keep my winnings, thank you.

I only did the spreadsheet thing last week to help people out, then you PMd me this morning. I assumed all the drama would be cleared up by now.

I don't care about a troll - he is onto a winning system at the moment. I don't usually even play all the games, except i did today

I'll occasionally blind tail for action, but my picks usually involve comparing his system and mine and if they match, i'll play it. I don't like going against someone on this hot a run.

However, if there is no interest in his plays, then i won't worry tracking. There is certainly nothing in it for me

**Aristocles** · 02-21-11, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Gee

I'll keep my winnings, thank you.

I only did the spreadsheet thing last week to help people out, then you PMd me this morning. I assumed all the drama would be cleared up by now.

I don't care about a troll - he is onto a winning system at the moment. I don't usually even play all the games, except i did today

I'll occasionally blind tail for action, but my picks usually involve comparing his system and mine and if they match, i'll play it. I don't like going against someone on this hot a run.

However, if there is no interest in his plays, then i won't worry tracking. There is certainly nothing in it for me

Just send 'em to me and when/if he begins to stumble, I'll blame you, SBR, him, hell, anyone but myself.

**davus4** · 02-21-11, 10:18 PM

huzzah! The Wisc GB call was insane and ended up pretty gripping, VV!
(i took the wrong side though.)

Gee- thanks for spreadsheeting all this.

**darkstar77** · 02-21-11, 10:33 PM

Where's all the LGO bashers tonight?

**VegasVixen** · 02-21-11, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by davus4

huzzah! The Wisc GB call was insane and ended up pretty gripping, VV!
(i took the wrong side though.)

Gee- thanks for spreadsheeting all this.

Yeah GB had such a nice cushion 'til the end, really thought they were gonna blow it. Another nail-biter win (like Cal last nite!)

**$4nothing** · 02-21-11, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by darkstar77

Where's all the LGO bashers tonight?

Hopefully, the Punk asses went to

sh*t & the HOGS ate them.

**EasyCover** · 02-22-11, 12:28 AM

A lot of you guys are just Bitches waiting for him to lose so you can bash. Bitches.

**SEAHAWKHARRY** · 02-22-11, 12:43 AM

Great job again........crickets.....thats all I hear from the haters..wannabee handicappers

**spargament** · 02-22-11, 12:58 AM

haters crack me the eff up. laughing all the way to the bank.

**DirkDiggs** · 02-22-11, 01:04 AM

Hey does anyone remember when their used to be CBB picks posted in here and they were winning at a good rate.

Boy those were the days. Whatever happened to that?

Seems so empty now.

**Gee** · 02-22-11, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by DirkDiggs

Hey does anyone remember when their used to be CBB picks posted in here and they were winning at a good rate. Boy those were the days. Whatever happened to that? Seems so empty now.

They are winning at the same rate. Nothing has dropped off.

People just don't think LGO is an honest broker anymore. I don't know the full story, so I can't judge, but IMO (based on very little) he's not dodgy. In any event, his picks have been winners over a reasonable sample size, which is all that matters.

If it keeps up at this rate, I'm quite happy for everyone on here not to smash the lines at Pinny before I wake up if its a game i want to play

**Aussiecapper101** · 02-22-11, 01:39 AM

the guy hasnt fallen flat on his face yet, actually far from it.. the moment he goes 1-4 even I start thinking its the end but then bounces it back to 4-4 in that same day without chasing or even dripping a sweat, so I think them haters could be waiting a while if they really want to have a good bash at the man.. exactly what the other poster said, some are waiting to hate whilst we're laughing all the way to the bank

**nightrider** · 02-22-11, 02:49 AM

Let me clear this up for all the haters and those who don't know LGO and completely in the dark.
I've known LGO for 20 years.
He's a good dude, been with his wife since they were 16, honest and likes making people happy. He found a sysytem that was working and was giving out his picks for free. He told people not to bet the farm and just used good money managment. He did it for fun. He put a lot of hard work crunching numbers and giving them out to people here. He didn't need to. He was cordial and liked the comraderie here. He's a great father of three, owns his own business for 24 years and just enjoyed making everyone here happy and having a good time.
Let me make this clear. LGO is not STUGOTS. They are two different people who know each other. STUGOTS got booted off a site and logged in under LGO's computer just to explain himself. No ghost. Trust me. They are two totally different people.
Also, his system has really been good. His worst days are around 50%. I played all his plays for the last week. Monday-Sunday. It was six out of seven winning days. The losing day was 4-5-1. Its been that way for 6 weeks now. To hear degenerates bitch about some guy they don't even know makes me laugh when I read the post. Simple truth...One guy, one system, one really confused moderator.
He doesn't need this site but was doing it for other people. Now you can go to his twitter if you wanna keep track. CircaSystem.
He's the same nice guy there as he was here.
Haters are people who hate what they see in the mirror. When you hate yourself, you pretty much hate everyone else.
Great job and good luck to all that have had his back. Hope you're enjoying the fruits of his labor.

**BetterBizness** · 02-22-11, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by BetterBizness

I hate to burst the "right and wrong" of anyones bubble...

But I really don't care where he posts... If the man posts winners, I'll look up in the sky for a plane, or look for bottles in the ocean... I"m sure the 200+ that signed up to twitter in the past 24 hours would say the same thing...

If SBR doesn't want him... or don't moderate accordingly (I don't know one way or the other)... then they lose the business he creates... or if it's justified, then so be it...

Again... Why should I care... until this is a losing cause... man I just want to make money... rx.. Statfox, covers.. whatever... whereever... It's the internet man, It's not like I'm getting in my car and driving across the country to get the picks...

Again... 300+ followers now... that's 300 x Multiple views per day from SBR for "Ghosting"...

Really.. They couldn't figure out a better solution then just ban the guy...

Strangest thing I've seen in 6 months steady on this site... Clearly more to it, but no "exec" one wants to let the "masses" know but in cryptic, useless emails... don't care anyways... The man is up like 20x since this sheit began... hel we're still talking about him and he hasn't been here in a week...

**Slainte** · 02-22-11, 04:55 AM

So far LGO seems legit guy, he just shared his plays with the forum, i don't see nothing wrong with that

**canuck** · 02-22-11, 05:54 AM

Ignore the drama and take the winners for free. Another profitable night

**GmCrazy** · 02-22-11, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by nightrider

Let me clear this up for all the haters and those who don't know LGO and completely in the dark.
I've known LGO for 20 years.
He's a good dude, been with his wife since they were 16, honest and likes making people happy. He found a sysytem that was working and was giving out his picks for free. He told people not to bet the farm and just used good money managment. He did it for fun. He put a lot of hard work crunching numbers and giving them out to people here. He didn't need to. He was cordial and liked the comraderie here. He's a great father of three, owns his own business for 24 years and just enjoyed making everyone here happy and having a good time.
Let me make this clear. LGO is not STUGOTS. They are two different people who know each other. STUGOTS got booted off a site and logged in under LGO's computer just to explain himself. No ghost. Trust me. They are two totally different people.
Also, his system has really been good. His worst days are around 50%. I played all his plays for the last week. Monday-Sunday. It was six out of seven winning days. The losing day was 4-5-1. Its been that way for 6 weeks now. To hear degenerates bitch about some guy they don't even know makes me laugh when I read the post. Simple truth...One guy, one system, one really confused moderator.
He doesn't need this site but was doing it for other people. Now you can go to his twitter if you wanna keep track. CircaSystem.
He's the same nice guy there as he was here.
Haters are people who hate what they see in the mirror. When you hate yourself, you pretty much hate everyone else.
Great job and good luck to all that have had his back. Hope you're enjoying the fruits of his labor.

El Stugoto was banned for having multiple accounts and talking to/praising himself in his own threads at the Rx. And then, like you said El Stugoto uses LGO's personal computer to post here. So its all El Stugoto's fault that LGO is banned here. Why would El Stugoto risk getting LGO banned here, when he just got banned at the Rx for doing the same exact thing? I hope the system continues to do well, its just a shame LGO doesn't post here anymore.

**darkstar77** · 02-22-11, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by GmCrazy

El Stugoto was banned for having multiple accounts and talking to/praising himself in his own threads at the Rx. And then, like you said El Stugoto uses LGO's personal computer to post here. So its all El Stugoto's fault that LGO is banned here. Why would El Stugoto risk getting LGO banned here, when he just got banned at the Rx for doing the same exact thing? I hope the system continues to do well, its just a shame LGO doesn't post here anymore.

Does it really matter that he got banned here? If anything was probably more of a pain in the ass for the guy having to deal with all the stupid questions he got like "when are the next round of picks coming" over and over. Twitter is so much easier. And he clearly has a solid following with 350+ followers in a week.

**SteelerNation704** · 02-22-11, 08:10 AM

Even if the worst anyone has said is true about LGO... someone explain to me why so many people have their panties in a bunch. Am I missing something? Has he ever tried to rip anybody off? No. He is making people money! I'm starting to wonder if there isn't something to all this sbr/book conspiracy talk. A lot of effort has been put into discrediting this guy and it makes no sense. Just my $.02.