KENPOM says.....

**Domer** · 02-20-11, 08:13 PM

Yup my bad, my post should've read 0-6 or 1-5. Definitely my mistake there.

But there has been an afternoon comeback, and 4-5 is the new record. Cal still on the board, might just be a juice-loss day.

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by darkstar77

Good call genius. Everyone has one bad day here and there. This is by far his worst day but its not even close to over. I wouldnt call one bad afternoon taking a turn for the worst.

I'm not wishing anyone ill fate, however bad turns start with one bad day.
Just saying.........

Consecutive bad days combined with a system that uses, what? 30 games a day will ruin your bankroll in 10 days.

Do the math, if you bet 30 games a day for 6 days using this so called 'system', and if you go 60 and 120 for those 180 games, you're crippled.
That's 60* you are down without the juice.

Most of you probably don't have the 'roll to ride out a losing streak like that

**darkstar77** · 02-20-11, 08:18 PM

Not if u bet the extra half unit to cover juice....I feel bad for all the people who just hopped on today and are mocking him. You've been seriously missing all the fun.

**Gee** · 02-20-11, 08:19 PM

This is how we are (LGO's plays) looking today with one pending. not bad not good. i had the Florida game filtered out and played sth bama, so could be a good day for me.

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by darkstar77

Not if u bet the extra half unit to cover juice....I feel bad for all the people who just hopped on today and are mocking him. You've been seriously missing all the fun.

Bet an extra .5 * on what?
The last game (Cal?)

**zipzip22** · 02-20-11, 08:24 PM

great work LGO

**TEXAS MICKEY** · 02-20-11, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Vegas was built on systems.
Systems get hot for awhile, in the long run, they crash and burn and take your money while crashing and burning.

I don't wish anybody ill fate, but if Stu, I'm sorry, I mean LGO, and the rest of you made any money so far, word of advcie, quit now while you are ahead.

That's genius, Vegas just changes the rules when the systems start to eat at their profits. Same thing here, bookmakers tighten the lines when it's not going their way too.

**davus4** · 02-20-11, 08:29 PM

whoa. i turned my head and Bing +1 turned into a loss.

coulda sworn they held on.
let's go California~!

thanks for picks, LGO & VV.

**TEXAS MICKEY** · 02-20-11, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

I'm not wishing anyone ill fate, however bad turns start with one bad day.
Just saying.........

Consecutive bad days combined with a system that uses, what? 30 games a day will ruin your bankroll in 10 days.

Do the math, if you bet 30 games a day for 6 days using this so called 'system', and if you go 60 and 120 for those 180 games, you're crippled.
That's 60* you are down without the juice.

Most of you probably don't have the 'roll to ride out a losing streak like that

Who in the fukk you following, 30 game days for him are not the norm dude,
10 plays today.

**southpaw74** · 02-20-11, 08:32 PM

Relax people....you are only making it worse! You are overreacting to the people that are upset and that in turns makes it even worse...again relax!! Start again tomorrow

**darkstar77** · 02-20-11, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Bet an extra .5 * on what?
The last game (Cal?)

U know it. If I win I scratch. If I lose oh well.

**Gee** · 02-20-11, 08:34 PM

at this thread.

how is a 4 - 5 day with one pending really bad. most of us won a lot more yesterday than we've lost today.

**$4nothing** · 02-20-11, 08:36 PM

KEY: Don't let LV / OFFs get the system.

If great overall run continues, they'll be after it.

Give no clues. Trust NO one...but your own work.

**darkstar77** · 02-20-11, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Vegas was built on systems.
Systems get hot for awhile, in the long run, they crash and burn and take your money while crashing and burning.

I don't wish anybody ill fate, but if Stu, I'm sorry, I mean LGO, and the rest of you made any money so far, word of advcie, quit now while you are ahead.

Sounds like someone is just pissed they missed out on all the fun.

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by TEXAS MICKEY

That's genius, Vegas just changes the rules when the systems start to eat at their profits. Same thing here, bookmakers tighten the lines when it's not going their way too.

How does Vegas change the rules when one gets hot?
Cite an example?
The rules for sports betting in Vegas hasn't changed in 30 years

**Aristocles** · 02-20-11, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

I'm not wishing anyone ill fate, however bad turns start with one bad day.
Just saying.........

Consecutive bad days combined with a system that uses, what? 30 games a day will ruin your bankroll in 10 days.

Do the math, if you bet 30 games a day for 6 days using this so called 'system', and if you go 60 and 120 for those 180 games, you're crippled.
That's 60* you are down without the juice.

Most of you probably don't have the 'roll to ride out a losing streak like that

Stop with the chicken little bullshit and move on. We are all 'grow'd up and haired over', trust me, we do not need someone who professes a firm grasp on the obvious to clue us in.

People who make picks often get hot and then have lulls or failures? You have got to be ******* bullshitting me? No way! Wow.

If you lose 120 out of 180 bets in six days you will be crippled? You cannot be serious!? Thanks again, I would never have caught that. That has to be right up there with some of the mathematical wizardry of Gauss or even Leibniz.

I do not know your agenda and do not care but you are either typing useless platitudes or total crap, exempli gratia, your post about message boards.

655 posts in ~month. Sound to noise ratio?

**TEXAS MICKEY** · 02-20-11, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

How does Vegas change the rules when one gets hot?
Cite an example?
The rules for sports betting in Vegas hasn't changed in 30 years

Oh sure they have, there is no more solid 10% vig on every wager. Just like there is not on the offshores either, not every house in Vegas is taking half time action on every game, they pick and choose what games they want to play for the second.

Do you play Craps?????? check out the changes they made there when you bet on the place bets.

Yes, they do change, when the SYSTEM begins to eat at their profits.

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by darkstar77

Sounds like someone is just pissed they missed out on all the fun.

Please, I do my own 'capping, I don't need syncopants and ghosts telling me who to bet and how to bet.
I do my own work, if I go down, it's because I went down, not because of some system that uses 30 bets a day.

This is how I did today.

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 06:09 AM
[#9257x00x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 330.00 - To Win: 300.00)
02/20/2011 - 10:10 AM CBB [880] PURDUE -1-110
Score: OHIO STATE(63) - PURDUE(76) WIN
300.00

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 11:22 AM
[#9259x44x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 115.00 - To Win: 100.00)
02/20/2011 - 12:35 PM NHL [1006] TOTAL u1½-115
(1P PITTSBURGH vrs 1P CHICAGO)
Score: 1P PITTSBURGH(0) - 1P CHICAGO(1) WIN
100.00

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 11:17 AM
[#9259x28x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 220.00 - To Win: 200.00)
02/20/2011 - 12:40 PM CBB [859] CLEMSON +1½-110
Score: CLEMSON(63) - MIAMI FLORIDA(59) WIN
200.00

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 01:21 PM
[#926x560x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 220.00 - To Win: 200.00)
02/20/2011 - 02:40 PM CBB [864] MARYLAND -10-110
Score: NC STATE(80) - MARYLAND(87) LOSE
-220.00

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 03:37 PM
[#926x250x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 220.00 - To Win: 200.00)
02/20/2011 - 03:42 PM CBB [2863] TOTAL o78½-110
(2H NC STATE vrs 2H MARYLAND)
Score: 2H NC STATE(40) - 2H MARYLAND(49) WIN
200.00

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by Aristocles

I do not know your agenda and do not care

You do not know my agenda because I have no agenda.

Me thinks I hit a nerve.
Could it be I'm closing in on some things here?

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by TEXAS MICKEY

Oh sure they have, there is no more solid 10% vig on every wager. Just like there is not on the offshores either, not every house in Vegas is taking half time action on every game, they pick and choose what games they want to play for the second.

Do you play Craps?????? check out the changes they made there when you bet on the place bets.

Yes, they do change, when the SYSTEM begins to eat at their profits.

What about craps, Casino Royale gives you 100x pass back line odds if you wish.
They also say bring your systems.

Sam's Town still offers 20x back line odds, they too say "bring your system"

**darkstar77** · 02-20-11, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Please, I do my own 'capping, I don't need syncopants and ghosts telling me who to bet and how to bet.
I do my own work, if I go down, it's because I went down, not because of some system that uses 30 bets a day.

This is how I did today.

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 06:09 AM
[#9257x00x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 330.00 - To Win: 300.00)
02/20/2011 - 10:10 AM CBB [880] PURDUE -1-110
Score: OHIO STATE(63) - PURDUE(76) WIN
300.00

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 11:22 AM
[#9259x44x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 115.00 - To Win: 100.00)
02/20/2011 - 12:35 PM NHL [1006] TOTAL u1½-115
(1P PITTSBURGH vrs 1P CHICAGO)
Score: 1P PITTSBURGH(0) - 1P CHICAGO(1) WIN
100.00

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 11:17 AM
[#9259x28x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 220.00 - To Win: 200.00)
02/20/2011 - 12:40 PM CBB [859] CLEMSON +1½-110
Score: CLEMSON(63) - MIAMI FLORIDA(59) WIN
200.00

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 01:21 PM
[#926x560x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 220.00 - To Win: 200.00)
02/20/2011 - 02:40 PM CBB [864] MARYLAND -10-110
Score: NC STATE(80) - MARYLAND(87) LOSE
-220.00

02/20/2011 by ONLINE at 03:37 PM
[#926x250x] STRAIGHT BET (Risking: 220.00 - To Win: 200.00)
02/20/2011 - 03:42 PM CBB [2863] TOTAL o78½-110
(2H NC STATE vrs 2H MARYLAND)
Score: 2H NC STATE(40) - 2H MARYLAND(49) WIN
200.00

Great. So you are up so far today. How does your last month compare to LGO?

**Aristocles** · 02-20-11, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

You do not know my agenda because I have no agenda.

Me thinks I hit a nerve.
Could it be I'm closing in on some things here?

Yep. That's it, a nerve. . . hold on, nope sorry, it's my sciatic neuritis. Those years of actually being in a sport that involved moving heavy objects has taken its toll.

LGO and I have long been covering up the existence of extraterrestrial CBB players. They are there. The truth is out there. Just keep on chanting "I want to believe".

Seriously, I have no clue who he even is. I haven't tailed all of his picks. I think I am around even on the ones that I have. I do not "tw**t" so I will likely be dependent upon the benevolence of others here, if I choose to tail. This whole thing just seemed odd to me. Nothing more; nothing less.

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 09:02 PM

I'll put my numbers for the past year up against Stu's, I'm sorry I mean Homework, oops I meant to say LGO's or whatever his handle will be next months record any time.

**TEXAS MICKEY** · 02-20-11, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

What about craps, Casino Royale gives you 100x pass back line odds if you wish.
They also say bring your systems.

Sam's Town still offers 20x back line odds, they too say "bring your system"

They changed the maximums on the 4-10 5-9 6-8 place bets, when they used to be all the same. Just like the vig used to be 10% for every sports wager.

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 09:06 PM

Buy the four and ten, never place the four or ten.
You place the four, you are getting 9:5 on a 2:1 payout.
That's poor.

If you play the four, buy it, don't place it.

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Aristocles

Seriously, I have no clue who he even is.

That statement alone speaks volumes.

**Aristocles** · 02-20-11, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

That statement alone speaks volumes.

Seriuosly. Are you serious? With multitude of pitifully ignorant posts you have posted in the last two hours?

Acting as if a website and message board were the equivalent of untying the Gordian Knot? Posting stupid shit about Vegas. Stating retarded platitudes about losing 120 out 180 being crippling? Yadda, yadda, yadda. . . and you act as if someone who pays little mind to the melodramatic driveling of a psuedo-male as to troll nom de plumes is clueless.

What does this speak? Libraries?

"I don't need syncopants. . ." What on earth is a syncopant? One who fails to put on their pants in synchronization?

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 09:23 PM

Did you know Gordian Knot is a program designed for encoding avi video.
(I/T professional by trade)

Your command of the English language does not impress me by the way.

p.s. did you know over 40% of your posts are in this thread alone? Don't worry about my 600 posts.

**TEXAS MICKEY** · 02-20-11, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Buy the four and ten, never place the four or ten.
You place the four, you are getting 9:5 on a 2:1 payout.
That's poor.

If you play the four, buy it, don't place it.

I didn't ask you how to play the game, I just stated that they change their systems, when it comes to their profits.
You seem to be dodging the issue about how the sports book are changing how they do business, and thank you very much on the tip, but you would think that you could figure out that I know something about the game of craps, if I knew that they have changed the mins & maxes.
And I actually play from the dark side, so it's a Lay for me instead of a Buy.

**ebbearsfb1** · 02-20-11, 09:28 PM

stevenashwannabe ... if you dont like the picks leave the thread... pretty simple

**PRiiMO** · 02-20-11, 09:30 PM

what the hell are you losers arguing about now??? are your lives so pathetic that you have to come in here and try and make yourself feel better??? go bitch somewhere else. no one cares. beat it for real

go get laid or something

**Aristocles** · 02-20-11, 09:33 PM

Yes, I have posted a lot in this thread as it really intrigued me for a while. But shit, you have 662 posts now in a freakin' month!

Gordian Knot? .avi? Are you kidding? Really? Ever hear of AVS? Huge forum for video and audio buffs such as myself, Suppose Aristocles is and has been member there? What videohelp.com? Maybe Doom9?

Try reading something and possibly you will learn and the lineage of "the Gordian Knot".

Admittedly your lack of command of any language makes an impression on me. It impresses me that you are an illiterate dolt. Now what?

**stevenash** · 02-20-11, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by ebbearsfb1

stevenashwannabe ... if you dont like the picks leave the thread... pretty simple

My point is systems in time crash and burn.
Never said anything about the picks.
This thread actually amuses me, how the same people stroke Stu's, I mean Homework, my bad, it's LGO this month's, e-penis.

I'm amused by the number of posts asking for the twitter addy when it's posted like three times on every page.
To borrow a posters phrase 'sound to noise ratio' anybody?

**LockPickMaster** · 02-20-11, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by PRiiMO

what the hell are you losers arguing about now??? are your lives so pathetic that you have to come in here and try and make yourself feel better??? go bitch somewhere else. no one cares. beat it for real go get laid or something

Really people, STFU and go find a rubber room to vent.

**P25** · 02-20-11, 09:37 PM