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  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #281
    if I recall the silliness went like this...

    Fishhead says the lines are great or opininated or somthing..

    Monkey says they are clones

    this upsets Blackie, he baits Monkey with taunts about a contest that monkey WON

    Monkey says don't piss me off I'll tell posters that it is not a good idea to play at an offshore book with a US citizen owner..

    Blackie makes some sort of veiled threat involving people in Monkey's home town.

    Pokernut does what pokernut does

    JJ makes a brief appearance.... and then it kinda got jumbled in my head

    great stuff for players talk entertainment....


    just not sure its great for business
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    • Extra Innings
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-26-10
      • 15058

      #282
      I bet you for 250.00 US you could have someone killed in Mexico....what a World.
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      • flyingillini
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 41219

        #283
        This seems like it is betfirstclass all over again.
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        המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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        • MonkeyF0cker
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 06-12-07
          • 12144

          #284
          Originally posted by Chi_archie
          if I recall the silliness went like this...

          Fishhead says the lines are great or opininated or somthing..

          Monkey says they are clones

          this upsets Blackie, he baits Monkey with taunts about a contest that monkey WON

          Monkey says don't piss me off I'll tell posters that it is not a good idea to play at an offshore book with a US citizen owner..

          Blackie makes some sort of veiled threat involving people in Monkey's home town.

          Pokernut does what pokernut does

          JJ makes a brief appearance.... and then it kinda got jumbled in my head

          great stuff for players talk entertainment....


          just not sure its great for business
          Yeah. That sums it up pretty well. The beginning of the thread anyway...
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          • flyingillini
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-06-06
            • 41219

            #285
            Originally posted by Extra Innings
            I bet you for 250.00 US you could have someone killed in Mexico....what a World.
            A lot less than that.
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            • Shortstop
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 01-02-09
              • 27281

              #286
              Originally posted by Extra Innings
              Passing Beaver Falls...load up that freeplay Blackie
              79 South!
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              • lyon804
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-02-09
                • 6526

                #287
                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                if I recall the silliness went like this...

                Fishhead says the lines are great or opininated or somthing..

                Monkey says they are clones

                this upsets Blackie, he baits Monkey with taunts about a contest that monkey WON

                Monkey says don't piss me off I'll tell posters that it is not a good idea to play at an offshore book with a US citizen owner..

                Blackie makes some sort of veiled threat involving people in Monkey's home town.

                Pokernut does what pokernut does

                JJ makes a brief appearance.... and then it kinda got jumbled in my head

                great stuff for players talk entertainment....


                just not sure its great for business




                This +1.. Folks this was the highlights. Well done Archie. Didn't even have to read all this shit but that wouldn't have been any fun.
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                • Chi_archie
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-22-08
                  • 63172

                  #288
                  I miss 79 south and I-80 east
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                  • Extra Innings
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-26-10
                    • 15058

                    #289
                    Originally posted by flyingillini
                    This seems like it is betfirstclass all over again.
                    Not yet, Blackie just needs to post Monkey's name and address. I met Monkey while I was being accosted by some locals in Vegas...he saved my life that day and I will never forget it.
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                    • flyingillini
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 12-06-06
                      • 41219

                      #290
                      Originally posted by Extra Innings
                      Not yet, Blackie just needs to post Monkey's name and address. I met Monkey while I was being accosted by some locals in Vegas...he saved my life that day and I will never forget it.
                      I look forward to seeing Monkey real soon as well. I will be in Vegas a few times in the next 2 months. We will have to do it up!
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                      • MonkeyF0cker
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-12-07
                        • 12144

                        #291
                        Originally posted by flyingillini
                        I look forward to seeing Monkey real soon as well. I will be in Vegas a few times in the next 2 months. We will have to do it up!
                        Definitely, buddy.
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                        • Fishhead
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-11-05
                          • 40179

                          #292
                          We have a poster that doesn't even play offshore(Monkey), attacking the owner(Blackie) or an offshore outfit that takes a $500 maximum wager and is incredibly promoted by legendary SBR poster and resident classclown(JJgold) who states he is going to deposit $10,000 with Rebatewager for football.

                          This thread takes the wedding cake.....

                          In other offshore news, BetPhoenix continues to hold down a solid B+ rating here at SBR despite slow paying a huge number of their clients over the past several weeks.
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                          • Chi_archie
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-22-08
                            • 63172

                            #293
                            Fishhead, go look through your jr high and high school scrapbook for the 6th time today, have a glass of milk, brush your teeth and go to bed.... you are up way too late for a half-century old fart
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                            • Fishhead
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 40179

                              #294
                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                              Fishhead, go look through your jr high and high school scrapbook for the 6th time today, have a glass of milk, brush your teeth and go to bed.... you are up way too late for a half-century old fart

                              You know me all to well........very scary.

                              Goodnight, sleep tight.

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                              • BadNina
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-27-07
                                • 10491

                                #295
                                Blackie,

                                Lyon, Archie,Arsenal, Tobias and I are all trying to tell you the same thing. You need to take a deep breath and calm down. If you had answered him in the beginning with something as stupid as "Be sure to also tell them I kick puppies too" the rest of this thread would never have happened. You aren't representing your business well by bickering with Monkey. You need to be above that. Shoot, hun, there aren't that many stupid people who believe that if its on the internet that makes it true. The 4 of us are trying to tell you that lines, payments, etc have nothing to do with our uncomfortable feeling. All I have ever seen of your posts have been is this thread. That isn't a favorable impression. We are trying to help you out here. Now breathe deeply again. Now JJ has a lot of faith in you. Show us that side.
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                                • pavyracer
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82840

                                  #296
                                  RW's lines for soccer are atrocious. There is no way I can play there. I don't care about rebates since I never lose. Rebates are for JJ who loses every day.
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                                  • Arsenal
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-30-09
                                    • 1349

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by BadNina
                                    Blackie,

                                    Lyon, Archie, Tobias and I are all trying to tell you the same thing. You need to take a deep breath and calm down. If you had answered him in the beginning with something as stupid as "Be sure to also tell them I kick puppies too" the rest of this thread would never have happened. You aren't representing your business well by bickering with Monkey. You need to be above that. Shoot, hun, there aren't that many stupid people who believe that if its on the internet that makes it true. The 4 of us are trying to tell you that lines, payments, etc have nothing to do with our uncomfortable feeling. All I have ever seen of your posts have been is this thread. That isn't a favorable impression. We are trying to help you out here. Now breathe deeply again. Now JJ has a lot of faith in you. Show us that side.
                                    How could you forget me Nina my friend. I was the first one that said it.
                                    Originally posted by Arsenal

                                    I am not sure this is a good way of attracting business. I will never ever play there after this.
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                                    • BadNina
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-27-07
                                      • 10491

                                      #298
                                      Oops.....add Arsenal to my list. Thank you!
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                                      • shantystar
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-13-05
                                        • 7299

                                        #299
                                        good job Blackie
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                                        • blittydeuce
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-11-08
                                          • 5572

                                          #300
                                          Jeez MF, didn't you know you were supposed to stay quiet about blackies shafty operation after he paid you the thousand that you won from the contest. The same way the Auschwitz guards got paid off to stay quiet about exterminating jews.
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                                          • CarpeDime
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-01-09
                                            • 7873

                                            #301
                                            Why are people pissed at RW? If you don't like their lines don't play there. Tons of books have "vanilla" lines or "cloned" lines or whatever, and almost all books limit or boot pros. All the top US-facing books (unless I'm mistaken) are run by US citizens who would never have their face on camera or have their voices recorded. Sure Mickey has done voice interviews, for whatever reason, but Blackie's privacy behavior is completely par for the course, they're all like that. Scotty would never record his voice, neither would Tony, etc etc.

                                            The only thing that matters is a book's track record of paying, or if they have misleading rules. Have there been problems with RW payouts? I know pros have beaten them and gotten paid. Do they have misleading or way out-of-the-ordinary rules? What's the fuss about? What reason do you have to think that RW is less "safe" than any other US-facing book (excluding BookMaker and Greek, I guess) other than that Blackie had an internet back and forth with MF et al?
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by CarpeDime
                                              Why are people pissed at RW? If you don't like their lines don't play there. Tons of books have "vanilla" lines or "cloned" lines or whatever, and almost all books limit or boot pros. All the top US-facing books (unless I'm mistaken) are run by US citizens who would never have their face on camera or have their voices recorded. Sure Mickey has done voice interviews, for whatever reason, but Blackie's privacy behavior is completely par for the course, they're all like that. Scotty would never record his voice, neither would Tony, etc etc.

                                              The only thing that matters is a book's track record of paying, or if they have misleading rules. Have there been problems with RW payouts? I know pros have beaten them and gotten paid. Do they have misleading or way out-of-the-ordinary rules? What's the fuss about? What reason do you have to think that RW is less "safe" than any other US-facing book (excluding BookMaker and Greek, I guess) other than that Blackie had an internet back and forth with MF et al?
                                              Carper I have Scotty and Tony on classic sportsbook vids, check them out!!!

                                              You have to look at who is starting trouble here, a worthless broke punk that has no clue about the offshore business, Monkey does not even bet offshore, I know more on one finger than this fukkin jerkoff knows period.

                                              Blackie tips more in one month than Monkey's net worth

                                              Rebatewager has an impeccable Reputation amongst his peers and players alike , Blackie is defending his book which I like. The guy does anything the posters want here. All this bull shit is called jealousy .

                                              The cloning lines is a non isssue, every book in world watches the screen and clones to a degree from time to time, it is called good booking.

                                              Monkey do you realize a lot of these offshore sportsbooks have certain ties to dangerous people in every major City in USA?? I would be very careful what your saying and quit while your ahead. I am sure in person your a decent guy like some have said here so cut the fukkin bull shit.

                                              I agree with Shanty ..Great job Blackie in this thread!!!!!!!
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                                              • MonkeyF0cker
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-12-07
                                                • 12144

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                Carper I have Scotty and Tony on classic sportsbook vids, check them out!!!

                                                You have to look at who is starting trouble here, a worthless broke punk that has no clue about the offshore business, Monkey does not even bet offshore, I know more on one finger than this fukkin jerkoff knows period.

                                                Blackie tips more in one month than Monkey's net worth

                                                Rebatewager has an impeccable Reputation amongst his peers and players alike , Blackie is defending his book which I like. The guy does anything the posters want here. All this bull shit is called jealousy .

                                                The cloning lines is a non isssue, every book in world watches the screen and clones to a degree from time to time, it is called good booking.

                                                Monkey do you realize a lot of these offshore sportsbooks have certain ties to dangerous people in every major City in USA?? I would be very careful what your saying and quit while your ahead. I am sure in person your a decent guy like some have said here so cut the fukkin bull shit.

                                                I agree with Shanty ..Great job Blackie in this thread!!!!!!!
                                                What is my address, JJ? You seem to think you know a lot about me.

                                                You have absolutely zero credibility here. You're lowly fukking shill and all you are is a running joke on the forums. You bet $10 a game with Soprano for fuk's sake. What the fuk do you know? LOL.

                                                Rebatewager is not cloning "to a degree." They automate it. Without REAL books, they couldn't find their head from their ass.

                                                And seriously? Another threat. You fukking clowns are hilarious. I didn't start this shit. If Blackie thinks he can come into the forums and strong arm people into not discussing the merits of his book, he's an absolute fool much like yourself.

                                                What's that bullshit you always utter? Attack the post, not the poster. Take your own advice for once, clown.
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                                                • BLACKIE
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 09-25-09
                                                  • 430

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                  You couldn't even pick 101 winners out of 200 picks in our challenge last year. Wonder who's gotta hustle. I love all you guys that talk about cloned lines. I'd like to see you actually cap a game without following a move.
                                                  The funny thing is monkey you can't take the truth and the truth is that you're not as a good of a capper as you think you are. You took a jab at my lines I took a jab at you as anyone can see by my post above. It could have ended there but you choose to turn into angry Internet tough guy with your swearing and threats. Nina I appreciate your thought here but let me tell I am calm 15 years ago I would have been on a plane myself to deal with someone threatening me or my livelihood. I just can't understand how any of you can take the side of an individual that threatens another mans livelihood out of spite and anger. Where I come from people that stand up for themselves are respected not frowned upon. Ask yourself would you rather have your money with someone that stand up for himself, dosent take shit or threats from others or caves into pressure or threats. The later don't make it far in the real world. The bottom line is this monkey has never made a deposit with me, has never made a bet with me and he has no reason to be jumping into rw threads with his negative opinions.
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                                                  • BatemanPatrickl
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-21-07
                                                    • 18772

                                                    #305
                                                    God this thread needs to die. Don't think anyone wins. Blackie is posting facts here nothing else.
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                                                    • BLACKIE
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 09-25-09
                                                      • 430

                                                      #306
                                                      Press is press and our forum traffic and sign ups have doubled over the last few days. I think anyone reading this thread from the outside can form their own opinions and I believe that they are.
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                                                      • BatemanPatrickl
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-21-07
                                                        • 18772

                                                        #307
                                                        Very true about the press being press.
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                                                        • kato
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 01-21-10
                                                          • 254

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                          The funny thing is monkey you can't take the truth and the truth is that you're not as a good of a capper as you think you are. You took a jab at my lines I took a jab at you as anyone can see by my post above. It could have ended there but you choose to turn into angry Internet tough guy with your swearing and threats. Nina I appreciate your thought here but let me tell I am calm 15 years ago I would have been on a plane myself to deal with someone threatening me or my livelihood. I just can't understand how any of you can take the side of an individual that threatens another mans livelihood out of spite and anger. Where I come from people that stand up for themselves are respected not frowned upon. Ask yourself would you rather have your money with someone that stand up for himself, dosent take shit or threats from others or caves into pressure or threats. The later don't make it far in the real world. The bottom line is this monkey has never made a deposit with me, has never made a bet with me and he has no reason to be jumping into rw threads with his negative opinions.
                                                          not that it really matters or anything...

                                                          blackie-threatened to call people he knew in vegas to straighten MF out over cloned lines

                                                          it just gets better and better
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                                                          • MonkeyF0cker
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 06-12-07
                                                            • 12144

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                            The funny thing is monkey you can't take the truth and the truth is that you're not as a good of a capper as you think you are. You took a jab at my lines I took a jab at you as anyone can see by my post above. It could have ended there but you choose to turn into angry Internet tough guy with your swearing and threats. Nina I appreciate your thought here but let me tell I am calm 15 years ago I would have been on a plane myself to deal with someone threatening me or my livelihood. I just can't understand how any of you can take the side of an individual that threatens another mans livelihood out of spite and anger. Where I come from people that stand up for themselves are respected not frowned upon. Ask yourself would you rather have your money with someone that stand up for himself, dosent take shit or threats from others or caves into pressure or threats. The later don't make it far in the real world. The bottom line is this monkey has never made a deposit with me, has never made a bet with me and he has no reason to be jumping into rw threads with his negative opinions.
                                                            I didn't take a jab at your lines. I simply stated the truth about them. If you can't take that, that's YOUR problem. You can try to slander me and my handicapping. However, not only is there variance in 200 pick samples, but it doesn't change the fact that I stated the truth. I said nothing "bad" about your book, unless you're embarrassed by the fact that you're simply a cloner. This is all on you. Not me. Handle it like a professional. You could have easily avoided the post or stated the advantages you think there are of playing at your book. Instead, you chose to attack me. That's extremely childish and bush league.
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                                                            • excel
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 03-25-10
                                                              • 4270

                                                              #310
                                                              How does a thread of someone asking for a free play get to 9 pages?.?.?. I skipped it for days guess I'll review it.
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                                                              • Fishhead
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-11-05
                                                                • 40179

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                                Press is press and our forum traffic and sign ups have doubled over the last few days. I think anyone reading this thread from the outside can form their own opinions and I believe that they are.

                                                                You're saying this thread and MF'er have increased your sign-ups at Rebatewager??
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                                                                • wal66
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-14-08
                                                                  • 5305

                                                                  #312
                                                                  This whole thread seems a bit ridiculous. The concept of cloning lines as being anything bad is insane. While it may be old school or lacking imagination it certainly isn’t a serious negative and in no way makes a book an avoidable place. So a book is offering it’s players higher juice, it is that books right to set their take as they see fit and it is the players OBLIGATION to THEMSELVES to shop for the best price. One can’t fault RebateWager or any other book or any other business for that matter for setting the price on something be it competitive or not.

                                                                  I would think there would be merit in this thread if there was an example of RebateWager slow paying or not paying players. If they had seized players funds or in anyway shown anything at all in the way of fraud to its customers. That hasn’t been the case though. In the past several months that I have read anything to do with RW the ONLY negatives have been cloning lines and higher juice. The positives have been fast easy payouts, great friendly and professional customer service, incredible promotions, rebates on cash losses and as we have seen, rewarding RW players and SBR members with free cash and free trips.

                                                                  I realize I am pretty simple when it comes to the offshore industry or for that matter the world of PROFESSIONAL gambling but I do have a fairly good concept of pros and cons and so far RW’s pros appear to be far exceeding conceptual cons.

                                                                  As to Blackie not acting the part of a professional and laying down THREATS (not of violence mind you) I would ask you this. If you were a business owner and you attempted time after time to promote your business in a positive light and there were those who continually had nothing but negatives to say about your business simply because it’s not what THEY would prefer even after some of those same people had benefitted from that same business’ generosity would it not get under your skin?

                                                                  That whole “Pick 51%” contest was great PR for RW. It was a little cloudy because there were no real rules set in stone and Monkey does deserve credit for playing with stale lines eventually and (sorry carmelo) to his credit Monkey did pick over 50% but would it have been so hard to say Thank You? Winning the challenge doesn’t make you beholden to Blackie by any means but appreciating the opportunity of winning his $1000 and saying Thank You doesn’t make you less of a man either.
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                                                                  • BatemanPatrickl
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 06-21-07
                                                                    • 18772

                                                                    #313
                                                                    How much smack is talked over the Internet? Blackie never threatened anyone let's all calm down and get back to losing money.
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                                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                                      • 63172

                                                                      #314
                                                                      HOLY DRAMA QUEEN.......

                                                                      "threatened my livelihood"?????????????? c'mon people, nobody REALLY got any threats in this thread.... and to pretend that things like honor and livelihood are at stake here is just weak sauce.....


                                                                      its just a case of a couple people with bitchy baby tissue paper skin, that don't like each other and that can't stand to be slighted or to be the bigger person and drop it....

                                                                      now we've added in a bunch of no name clowns like myself to just add fuel to the fire, and people still won't quit. Its downright embarrassing, and I love it.

                                                                      we will get this page to 20 pages yet.....
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                                                                      • BLACKIE
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 09-25-09
                                                                        • 430

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                                        I didn't take a jab at your lines. I simply stated the truth about them. If you can't take that, that's YOUR problem. You can try to slander me and my handicapping. However, not only is there variance in 200 pick samples, but it doesn't change the fact that I stated the truth. I said nothing "bad" about your book, unless you're embarrassed by the fact that you're simply a cloner. This is all on you. Not me. Handle it like a professional. You could have easily avoided the post or stated the advantages you think there are of playing at your book. Instead, you chose to attack me. That's extremely childish and bush league.
                                                                        Kid I was busting your balls relax. You took a shot and fished and my lines. I took a shot at you. It could have ended there but you choose to make your threats and come at me with abusive language.
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