Gambling Professionally?

[ZeRo C@iDa*]

Dont waste your time. By the time you figure out an angle to cap winners the books will counter and set the line so accurate that God wouldnt even know which side to play.

Finish school. Read books on running a website and open a sports gaming site or go work for a book in Costa Rica so you really know whats going on.

You can spend half your life learning what Im telling you is true. I already wasted half of mine figuring it out.

Good look'N oUt bRutHa

[EJandV]

Homedog , Seriously , people inherit money , but your people probably pushed shopping carts up and down main st so I feel ya .

[EJandV]

Earth to a homedog . lol
People win the lottery all the time Homedog , is a normal occurence in all the states . People inheriting money is as sure as death , you living forever puss ? You gonna leave anyone anything . Soooo many bleep bleep bleep in a chat room is it amazing .
There are actually alot of lucky people that hit big at least ONE TIME IN SPORTS WAGERING / CASINOS / STOCKS , list goes on . Why you wanna get me started .

[raiders72002]

curious

I am a professional gambler both in blackjack and in sportsbetting

[VegasDave]

First of all, thank you all for your answers.

I definitely appreciate your opinions and advice. The only thing I could do without are these harsh judgments on my character.

Just because I haven't found a passion for anything yet doesn't mean I'm lazy. I'm more than willing to put a great deal of effort into something... just haven't found anything worthwhile yet. I have a full time job that I'm working hard at right now, despite hating it.

Also, trust me, I want a college degree more than anything. Unless you've been there, you have no idea how frustrating it is to try your absolute best and just get C's and lower. I have anxiety/memory problems surrounding testing, and since thats what the bulk of your grade is on... when financial aid shuts me down I have no choice but to take time off. I can't afford USC tuition on my own!

Anyways, my point is, I'm not dropping out of school and becoming a professional gambler. I'm not even seriously considering it as a profession. I was just asking you guys "what if", what does it take? So please watch the personal shots.

And again, thanks for all the input.

[MrX]

I have anxiety/memory problems surrounding testing, and since thats what the bulk of your grade is on

Buy this book immediately. There are simple and powerful techniques for memorizing anything. It's amazing to me that they don't teach this in school, it would make the lives of millions of students so much less stressful.

As a bonus, this will also teach you how to memorize sequences of cards, so in your future life as a multi-faceted advantage gambler, you can utilize advanced blackjack techniques such as sequencing aces!

[raiders72002]

I have anxiety/memory problems surrounding testing,

see a psychologist. They can help you or give you medicine to help that.

[EJandV]

I know there have been plenty of people that caught a free ride by suing other people , big companys, corporations ETC ETC ETC lmao , hospitals , those people's families sue and all the riches are left to Homedog . There are people that get a free ride , those people that get rich die and leave the $ money to ? ahhhh , Homedog !!! no free rides though !!! Kinda like these lil brats I know that inherited alot of money from their parents and drive 100 mph past my house every day , they dont give a shi# Homedog . Leave your $ to Homedog , plzzzzz , just for me put Homedog in your will asap .
Or we could get a dollar from everybody in the stae we live in and catch a free ride . That could be pulled off , right Homedog ? you bet your ass it has been pulled off and can happen next weeeeeeek .

[homedog]

Nothing is free.

[MBENZ]

It completely amazes me that this question comes up so much in the forums.

Get an education and then a job. If you like to gamble, do so as a hobby with minimal funds.

Quit bullshitting yourself about becoming a pro gambler. It sounds like you are lazy to me and are looking for a free way out.

There are no free rides son.

Most sound advice in this thread,most likely coming from somebody who's been there.

[acw]

Start offering prices to gamblers that are not price sensitive. Whenever they bet into you at -110 on something that you can lay off at Even Money, just keep the bet. Percentage wise you will never make more money betting yourself. This does not mean that you will automatically make money being a bookie, as your job changes from finding advantages to collecting money, but it will at least make you very price sensitive, since it will show you that these non-price-sensitive gamblers simply cannot win. And as curious mentiones: You have to be able to calculate your E.V. There are only very few out that have an "unlimited" bank-roll and just need a positive edge no matter how small to show a profit long term. Another important lesson I learned long ago already is to keep your winnings quiet. Never make people jealous, if it were just to avoid competition! If you find an edge, simply keep it for yourself. Lately it has not happened often, but several years ago I would sometimes see a post that could confirm one of my edges and I could only pray it not being used by others.

[Zeroed]

About the free ride: Yes there can be one in sports, but that would be scalping and not betting.
Don´t be fooled thou, scalping sounds easy in theorie but it is a lot of work. You have to watch lines closely for hours every day if you want to make more money than with a normal job, and you need to pay a lot of attention because if you miss the jumps you get nada.

[Smarpaxus]

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Many of my friends have tried with negative results.

[Thremp]

This thread if full of really bad advice. If you want to take the leap, do it. Judging from your disdain for harder classes etc. You'll probably fail.

Things that are true:
1) Beating sports is EZPZ.
2) Handicapping is a very small part of being a winning sports bettor. Line shopping is far and away the most important aspect of sports betting.
3) You need to be v v good at math.
4) Finish college regardless of what you do.

[EJandV]

Being a professional gambler for a living with sports has many fine lines . If someone can start off hot , then you can play with the house's money , then that would be a great advantage .
There is really no timetable for how long you can stay on the plus side .
Starting off on the plus side as opposed to the opposite is huge .
What defines how well you do has alot to do with what time of year it is . If you plan to do every sport and dont really have a speciality sport that you have a knack for then you are in trouble .
You could make 50 grand over the ncaab season and then come right back and be - 50 grand in the ncaaf season .
Having a sport that you truly feel good and know about is a big advantage to your survival and prosperity .
Trying to do all the sports like you are just some kind of fortune teller I think is pretty spotty .

[jjgold]

Most people that gamble are broke period whether professionally or not

[RogueScholar]

Free rides are there, but gambling hasn't worked for me yet

Hey man,

Reading your post was like listening to something I would've written at your age. I used to be an Oregon State Beaver but I left in the middle of my junior year to focus on making money.

Since I've never wanted to work in any sort of regulated profession, I've found that (especially living in California) the best free ride out there is growing medical marijuana. In all of the coastal Northern counties you're allowed 25 plants for yourself and an extra 25 for every other medical pot patient you list yourself as "caregiver" for. At a low-ball yield of .25lb per plant of grade A pot, market value sitting between $2300-$2600 at the moment, it doesn't take too long before you're rolling.

The best part is the day you get your prescription (you can get them for headaches, stress, indigestion, sleeplessness, anxiety, anything), you call the local Sherriff and they add you to their database ensuring that no local or state cops will come and touch your plants or you.

It's almost 4 years since I left Corvallis, and next year I should have enough to go back there, buy a piece of property and grow there while I make more money to build a nice home for myself. And when that's done, I'll go back and get my degree on my own terms, for my own satisfaction.

Now when I say free ride, I mean this is something an intelligent person with a very good work ethic and a strong body can begin by his lonesome and turn into a livelihood. These plants are horribly fickle, and my current problem revolves are not being able to leave them alone for more than 2 days during the growing season. So right now I'm like the other guy, working like a freakin' slave between April and October, then enjoying some travel time in the Southern Cone of South America during their summer time.

Gambling should be a hobby, and please don't try the meth or heroin trades, that kind of stress will literally kill your life, no matter how much larger the numbers are than what I've laid out for my operation.

There are other things I could open your eyes to, but you'll need the cash flow (remember the flow part, it's crucial) from the pot to get those up and running.

[EJandV]

Right , most people are scared to lose , and if they try it and dont have immediate success they quit . People I know personally go in with 50$ and flip it once , then they lose it and think it's bs .
The problem is they didnt go in with a large chunk to get a really nice return on that nice lil start run .
If they went in wagering 500$ instead of the lil bs 50$ , maybe that positive return would have turned into something great and they would have lasted awhile making many withdrawls .
This is just one example .
2 team parlay for 500 instead of the 50 and he might have had a different outcome ( a success story) , he could have turned that lil bs into 10 grand ..... This is just one example . If you know you are going to be right then go for it right out the chute (fukk the nobody knows bs) , if not so what , if you are going to lose your money anyway then he should have went strong the first 2 plays he felt so good about .
Was a lil 2 teamer on turkey day is the real life example , it can be very simple and it was , and is , year after year .
SO MAKE IT COUNT . Instead he just made a lil 130$ profit , that aint shi# , if he would have went for it , he just may have been a success story .
Playing with the house's money can be like eating cake !!!

[Dark Horse]

Sports betting is a lot of work and if you are making a living at it the exciting parts that come with gambling fade away. Most pros either only bet moving lines or are great at math.

That's the whole story.

But it's also the story of those who get sucked in. If you find a number of strong edges you can keep playing those without investing a whole lot of time. Call it the lazy gambler approach. Otherwise lifestyle is out the door, because the search for angles never ends.

[ForgetWallStreet]

Don't do it. You'll ruin your life.

[homedog]

EJandV,

Do you really think people should sit around and wait on success to come to them like your PM to me said?

[EJandV]

No of course not , the lottery # s I gave you were a joke but at the same time something that shows a way people get put in the GOT IT MADE FREE RIDE CATEGORY OVERNIGHT .
To say nothing is free in this world is smart to tell lazy kids and adults as well , but it really is an incorrect statement .
FACT >>> This thread could in fact be a success story thread of people that caught a free ride in many ways .
Some ways you would not even believe , OF COURSE !!!!
Because this isin't that kind of thread just means its isin't that kind of thread . lmao

[homedog]

No of course not , the lottery # s I gave you were a joke but at the same time something that shows a way people get put in the GOT IT MADE FREE RIDE CATEGORY OVERNIGHT .
To say nothing is free in this world is smart to tell lazy kids and adults as well , but it really is an incorrect statement .
FACT >>> This thread could in fact be a success story thread of people that caught a free ride in many ways .
Some ways you would not even believe , OF COURSE !!!!
Because this isin't that kind of thread just means its isin't that kind of thread . lmao

That a way to back up your PM. What a ****ing putz.

[VegasDave]

So not too many of you are professional gamblers, huh?

[Scratch]

[QUOTE=RogueScholar;354637]
In all of the coastal Northern counties you're allowed 25 plants for yourself and an extra 25 for every other medical pot patient you list yourself as "caregiver" for.

Damn, I'm moving to NoCal with a whole bunch of people needing care.

[EJandV]

Funny if those lottery #s were good and I dont play the lottery by the way . You say point blank nothing is free , well I have given people free things all my life , $ aint shit man , get real . ooooooooooooohhhh yeah , it is something biggggg time , for people that dont have it or have never had it , that is so true it is just pathetic .
Being wealthy is just one part of life that when fulfilled, well off people just find something else to complain about or something else to be unhappy about . Is no cure by any stretch of the imagination .
There are in fact more free fukkin rides in the USA than we could ever even count . You would need a calculator <<
Alot of people sniff the free ride right up their nose . slurppp uppppppp!!!!! Just one of many ways people ABUSE THE FREE RIDE THEY WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE RECIEVED .

[homedog]

So not too many of you are professional gamblers, huh?

Not even 1. Get a grip on your life.

[homedog]

Funny if those lottery #s were good and I dont play the lottery by the way . You say point blank nothing is free , well I have given people free things all my life , $ aint shit man , get real . ooooooooooooohhhh yeah , it is something biggggg time , for people that dont have it or have never had it , that is so true it is just pathetic .
Being wealthy is just one part of life that when fulfilled, well off people just find something else to complain about or something else to be unhappy about . Is no cure by any stretch of the imagination .
There are in fact more free fukkin rides in the USA than we could ever even count . You would need a calculator <<
Alot of people sniff the free ride right up their nose . slurppp uppppppp!!!!! Just one of many ways people ABUSE THE FREE RIDE THEY WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE RECIEVED .

What a ****ing idiot.

[EJandV]

Takes money to make money is no mystery :

So not too many of you are professional gamblers, huh?

It takes money to make money and one needs backing , just like any successful company . To be the Lone Ranger and not have tonto backing you , you could get shot and not recover (through a stretch of time) , simply no way to twist it .
It depends on what kind of genes you have also , if you have addictive genes then you are probably just another sucker that will have a long road of ups and downs with many cool stories to tell .
You have to actually operate like it is a business .
You would not want to be the Lone Ranger .
So who would be your counterpart , how good would he be , you need someone experienced that knows A HUNDRED TIMES AS MUCH AS YOU DO .
A business ? You dont bet a game just because it is coming on tv or is on that day .
You can circle games on the schedule and only make 10 wagers a month and you would be much smarter than fukkin around getting alot of action .
There is too much to say about this subject to be able to convey by typing , you have to live it , and never be influenced by all the negativity you will get from people that cant do what you do and will constantly try and bring you down to their level .
You would have to have a partner that has been there and done that for years , if not you would most likely fall on your face one to many times and wonder why you started fukkin with this shi# in the first place ................ is too much to tell.

[EJandV]

stay humble Homedog

What a ****ing idiot.

Being humble is best , me telling you about myself and $ would not serve any purpose . Money aint shi# , but I respect your opinion as it is a majority one in this tough world . Sorry for you mo mo .

[LargeMouthBass]

This thread if full of really bad advice. If you want to take the leap, do it. Judging from your disdain for harder classes etc. You'll probably fail.

Things that are true:
1) Beating sports is EZPZ.
2) Handicapping is a very small part of being a winning sports bettor. Line shopping is far and away the most important aspect of sports betting.
3) You need to be v v good at math.
4) Finish college regardless of what you do.

Funny coming from a resident troll from some other site...

[Thremp]

Funny coming from a resident troll from some other site...

Umm... On a site full of professionals. Yes. Its seems everyone here is convinced you 1) Can't beat sports 2) Can't do it professionally. I don't rely on sports betting for my entire income currently. But its more than enough to pay the bills. And I don't do anything other than gamble. I know quite a few others who do this fulltime or for a very significant part of their living. Comments like "look forward to spending 80 hours a week handicapping" are just wrong and misguided. The focus is misplaced for many people in this thread. Which is why they weren't successful.

This thread is like asking for diet advice at a Weight Watchers convention.

[EJandV]

[QUOTE=Thremp;354887] Comments like "look forward to spending 80 hours a week handicapping" are just wrong and misguided. The focus is misplaced for many people in this thread. Which is why they weren't successful.

honestly a real sports gambler that relies on it as income , 80 hours a week is no stretch whatsoever . Sports will consume you and it will affect even a date out with your wife , you will be consumed wondering who is winning the game you have money on instead of enjoying your time out with your family .
That is just the truth , there are pros and cons with everything in life , every job on the planet .
If you have a sports pager or can get the scores on your cell phone and find out you lost when you are out trying to spend quality time ......... yeah that is just the truth .
A job where you are at the mercy of how other people perform that you are backing can be a GREAT CELEBRATION or it can RUIN YOUR NIGHT OUT .

[SPECULATOR 13]

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Lad,
you can always go back to school if you screw up with Pro-betting later in your life,you will have to pay your dues though.Every times that you will f*ck up make sure to learn from it and never f*CK up the same way again.As you go on you will realize if you have the skills and temperament to be a Professional Sports Speculator or if your mind is such that you can only gamble for fun.Find out now while your young.Remember regardless of all that is being said ,the bottom line is that if you earn a living by doing your hart's desire,you will never have to work a day in your life!!

[pokernut9999]

I do not work and I gamble all the time. Does this make me a PRO ?