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  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #36
    Dante,

    That was my initial assessment as well. Even Omega offered more options for a US customer, but their fee structure was ridiculous and company decision making was very questionable. Until someone steps up with a "wow" alternative, there's no reason to make things more complicated right now as an American. I also question the motives of any company emerging right now with the specific intent of targeting us, at least Neteller was such a global payment solution that we reaped the benefits of. Seems like these people just want to service gamblers. Proceed with caution.
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    • dante1
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 10-31-05
      • 38647

      #37
      Originally posted by crazyl
      Dante,

      That was my initial assessment as well. Even Omega offered more options for a US customer, but their fee structure was ridiculous and company decision making was very questionable. Until someone steps up with a "wow" alternative, there's no reason to make things more complicated right now as an American. I also question the motives of any company emerging right now with the specific intent of targeting us, at least Neteller was such a global payment solution that we reaped the benefits of. Seems like these people just want to service gamblers. Proceed with caution.
      Crazy

      Absolutely agree, this is not a solution. I will continue with the pain in the butt **, ** and prepaid visas until a viable money transfer arrives.

      Capitalism always answers a need, and there is a need. Since it isn't happening I can only assume that this ahole law and the DOJ is doing everything in their power to discourage investment in this area.

      Thought the R's were concerned about individual freedom and
      capitalism. I guess only when it suits their biased interests.
      Not unlike their stance on family values and at the same time
      looking to blow somebody in a bathroom or screw a male page or any number of crazy things that are happening. They are imploding. I will never again vote for a national R.
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      • biggamer3
        SBR MVP
        • 04-16-07
        • 2163

        #38
        Dante you are so right, wtf we need a middleman if they offer the same deposit methods as any sportsbook

        I just dont get it now?
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        • MoneyWindow
          SBR Rookie
          • 09-15-07
          • 20

          #39
          Originally posted by JC
          How do Americans get money in and out of your system?

          ACH, checks, echecks, bank wires, credit or debit cards?

          Dear Jay,

          US members are limited to sending a P2P Money Transfer or Check. Due to the obvious issues in the USA we do not handle any EChecks or the like from USA people.

          Regarding Credit & Debit Cards - we do not accept those, as, our business model is a guaranteed funds status for any money in the system.

          Regards,
          Mariana
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          • MoneyWindow
            SBR Rookie
            • 09-15-07
            • 20

            #40
            Originally posted by crazyl
            I'm still not sold on this being the best an eWallet can do for Americans. Perhaps no one has figured out a viable work around, but this seems unnecessary. If I'm going to use a money transfer service, I'm doing it directly to the book, not paying an extra charge to the middle man.

            This seems like it could be worthwhile for Canadians or whatever, but right now I think we need to wait for a company to step up and try to replace Neteller. Maybe that will never happen?

            Dear Crazyl,

            Many customers are already using our service when they send money to a book and do not even realize it.

            Several of the books had asked us to specifically make managing the ** transfers easier, which was one of the driving reasons for us bringing the wallet to market. To make it easier for everyone involved to manage their transactions and move their monies.

            Also, those of you funding your wallet with a P2P money transfer could probably ask your book to reimburse you and you may find most will if your transfer to them exceeds a certain amount.

            -Mariana
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            • MoneyWindow
              SBR Rookie
              • 09-15-07
              • 20

              #41
              Originally posted by biggamer3
              Some pretty hefty fees, more than 8% for a P2P why?
              Dear biggamer3,

              We have done our research and our fees are some of if not the lowest in the marketplace, especially considering the current climate

              Personal Member to Personal Member (P2P) transfers cost the sender absolutely nothing and the receiver a flat $1 regardless of the amount.

              So to send your buddy 1,000 costs you nothing and your buddy pays $1 to get it!

              -Mariana
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              • MoneyWindow
                SBR Rookie
                • 09-15-07
                • 20

                #42
                Originally posted by katstale
                I was looking at the fees pretty close and maybe I missed something? Yea, it would be 8% if you are transferring $100. But at 1% plus $8.95, that makes out to be better than Neteller if you are P2P large sums.

                Somebody correct that if I am wrong.

                Dear katstale,

                People transferring monies amongst themselved are charged as follows sender pays absolutely nothing! and the receiver pays a flat $1 regardless of the amount.

                Merchants (Businesses) are charged $1 plus 1.99% (half what neteller charges) to receive monies and when they send monies to a person it costs them absolutely nothing!

                Also, if you deposit $1,000 to your wallet by **, you can then send 350 to one book 300 to another and maybe 350 to one more, all from one **.

                -Mariana
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                • MoneyWindow
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 09-15-07
                  • 20

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                  Hello Mariana,

                  Can you tell us if the staff or anyone working in management formerly ran a sportsbook and which one?

                  Thanks
                  Dear Bill,

                  I can tell you that several of the principals of the company have been in the gaming business for close to 10 years each.
                  Whether or not in the capacity of owner, manager, employee, etc is not something for a public forum I am sure you would agree.

                  Should you want more info or have some questions you can send them directly to myself at mariana @ moneywindow.net or to our office at admin @ moneywindow.net

                  Regards,
                  Mariana
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #44
                    This is a pure waste

                    just send to books with western union or moneygram

                    no hassles period
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                    • remmy358
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-18-07
                      • 2199

                      #45
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      This is a pure waste

                      just send to books with western union or moneygram

                      no hassles period
                      if you can't use a bank account or credit/debit card this is useless for USA customers with regards to funding books, no point in creating a middle man for **.
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                      • katstale
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-07-07
                        • 3924

                        #46
                        What kind of deposit limits are there on ** and Moneygram? I agree that small time nickel and dime players would have no use of this service or Neteller. But for big time players moving $10-20k per day or even a week, an ewallet of this type is needed desperately. It costs too much money waiting days for wires to reach back and forth.
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                        • Breaker
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 04-17-07
                          • 137

                          #47
                          How come no company accepts money orders?
                          There's a lot less hassle than with ** or ** because no questions are asked, and the fee is also a fraction of what they charge.
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                          • SBR Lou
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 08-02-07
                            • 37863

                            #48
                            Originally posted by MoneyWindow
                            Dear Bill,
                            I can tell you that several of the principals of the company have been in the gaming business for close to 10 years each. Whether or not in the capacity of owner, manager, employee, etc is not something for a public forum I am sure you would agree.

                            Should you want more info or have some questions you can send them directly to myself at mariana @ moneywindow.net or to our office at admin @ moneywindow.net

                            Regards,
                            Mariana
                            Sounds like dirty laundry. If you have been involved in the gaming business for 10 years, you must have lots of experience and credibility if you're affiliated with and ran by honest individuals a watchdog site such as this would recognize.
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                            • cloudagh
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 04-08-07
                              • 486

                              #49
                              Originally posted by remmy358
                              if you can't use a bank account or credit/debit card this is useless for USA customers with regards to funding books, no point in creating a middle man for **.
                              This could be very useful for anyone shuffling money between books, especially for USA players. No need to worry about cashing in or out via MoneyWindow, just pipeline your funds between books and take your cashout at the book with the least fees.
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                              • bigloser
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 07-19-06
                                • 787

                                #50
                                Originally posted by MoneyWindow
                                Dear Bill,

                                I can tell you that several of the principals of the company have been in the gaming business for close to 10 years each.
                                Whether or not in the capacity of owner, manager, employee, etc is not something for a public forum I am sure you would agree.

                                Should you want more info or have some questions you can send them directly to myself at mariana @ moneywindow.net or to our office at admin @ moneywindow.net

                                Regards,
                                Mariana
                                I dont know what Bill thinks but I know what I do.

                                If I am going to send money to someone then I would expect to have some idea of who the principles are.

                                I can then form a judgement on the security of my money.

                                If the principles have been involved in respectable offshore books there should be no problem.

                                I wont be using this service until there is a little more transparency involving who this company is.
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                                • Bill Dozer
                                  www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                  • 07-12-05
                                  • 10894

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by MoneyWindow
                                  Dear Bill,

                                  I can tell you that several of the principals of the company have been in the gaming business for close to 10 years each.
                                  Whether or not in the capacity of owner, manager, employee, etc is not something for a public forum I am sure you would agree.

                                  Should you want more info or have some questions you can send them directly to myself at mariana @ moneywindow.net or to our office at admin @ moneywindow.net

                                  Regards,
                                  Mariana

                                  Mariana,

                                  I would have to disagree, especially in our sportsbook forum. If a former gaming operator is taking funds then it woudn't be kept a secret who that operator is.

                                  The marketing style with the pr releases reminds me of DATISI sportsbooks and looking at the contact info for the ARIUS Inv. sister sites there are similar manager names. Old IP not too far off. Going for the 20 Questions Win...Are you Mariane Anderson?
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                                  • SBR Lou
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 08-02-07
                                    • 37863

                                    #52
                                    Nice read Bill. Got a nose like a police dog.
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                                    • pdy
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 04-16-06
                                      • 15

                                      #53
                                      you made a mention that some books are using you already...

                                      who are they.

                                      I ask with the intention of using your services.
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                                      • swifty
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 02-22-06
                                        • 672

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by dante1
                                        What am I missing? If they don't work with US banks
                                        that means most of us will fund through ** or **, how does that help? Why wouldn't I just fund the book with those
                                        same methods. What advantage to the US player? This seems to me just another Omega type solution, which may
                                        or may not be a solution for US?
                                        Agree with him,
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                                        • MoneyWindow
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 09-15-07
                                          • 20

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                          Mariana,

                                          I would have to disagree, especially in our sportsbook forum. If a former gaming operator is taking funds then it woudn't be kept a secret who that operator is.

                                          The marketing style with the pr releases reminds me of DATISI sportsbooks and looking at the contact info for the ARIUS Inv. sister sites there are similar manager names. Old IP not too far off. Going for the 20 Questions Win...Are you Mariane Anderson?
                                          Dear Bill,

                                          Yes, I am the same Marianne you are referring to. I have been in the business for the last 7 years and at this point I can say I understand sportsbook needs and present situation.

                                          Now, considering the climate created by the DOJ specifically around processing, I am sure NETeller's executives wished they had kept their names private.

                                          With all due respect, we believe the proof is in the pudding so to speak and the customers who use our service can have the last word.

                                          Once again, my invitation for you or anyone else who wants to learn more about us and our service before making statements or deciding to work with us remains open.

                                          I will be glad to answer your questions and provide pertinent information. Feel free once again to email me with your questions and or concerns at: mariana @ moneywindow.net or if you prefer I can have one of the principals call you Monday morning.

                                          Regards,
                                          Mariana
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                                          • katstale
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-07-07
                                            • 3924

                                            #56
                                            There you go, Bill or John. Talk with the principals on Monday. How hard can that be--you guys work/live in the same neck of the woods? I trust your analysis (I mean everyone can have one Cascade) and if you come out of the meeting thinking it is fishy--come on here and say so and state the reasons. Be a watchdog.

                                            Not all of us are betting $10 a game. If there is any chance these people are legitimate, the people who are betting 1k plus a game would like to know.
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                                            • Exchangesplus
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 09-19-07
                                              • 1

                                              #57
                                              I have been in touch with Money window and have offered an exchange service for them. As my -e-currency exchange business offers a lot of options in terms of deposit and withdrawal, we believe we can add value to money window. They believe so too.

                                              Happy to field questions here or by your email to info@exchangesplus.com
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                                              • MoneyWindow
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 09-15-07
                                                • 20

                                                #58
                                                Hi Everyone!

                                                I wanted to once again introduce our system MoneyWindow.net

                                                Many of you who showed interest in our service had asked who is currently working with us.

                                                Some examples are: the greek, bet jam, JustBet and many more.

                                                A growing list may be found here: http://moneywindow.net/index.php?a=browse

                                                We expect to add MANY more to the list this coming week as several are awaiting integration to their cashiers.

                                                Happy to answer any questions anyone may have.
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                                                • curious
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 07-20-07
                                                  • 9093

                                                  #59
                                                  Why don't you crackheads just go on vacation to a nice island in the Caribbean, get a Mailboxes Etc mailbox, which has a street address, open a checking account at a Caribbean bank which issues ATM cards and do all your "offshore" transactions from there?

                                                  You can send deposits to the offshore bank using any number of methods and make withdrawals using your ATM card. Then you have nothing more to worry about, and the sportsbooks don't have to worry about DOJ.
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                                                  • MoneyWindow
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 09-15-07
                                                    • 20

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by remmy358
                                                    if you can't use a bank account or credit/debit card this is useless for USA customers with regards to funding books, no point in creating a middle man for **.
                                                    Great point.

                                                    But, there actually is a benefit to the US players.

                                                    An excellent example is a player who wants to play at 2 or 3 different books.

                                                    Utilizing a system such as ours or others similar you could effectively send one ** or ** for let's say $600 and then you could send $200 to each of 3 books from that same individual **/** transfer.

                                                    Further upon cashout, assuming the book sends your funds back to your wallet account you could then have the option to either transfer to and play with another book without having to send additional funds or of course you could cash out.

                                                    So there are benefits, depending of course on the individuals needs.
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                                                    • increasedodds
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-20-06
                                                      • 819

                                                      #61
                                                      If Olympic trusts them, then I trust them... Would love to see the list of books grow.

                                                      Now the question is, does Olympic trust them with $500 transactions or $50,000 transactions? If Olympic is not limiting these guys, I would say they are likely legit.

                                                      Sean
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                                                      • MoneyWindow
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 09-15-07
                                                        • 20

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by increasedodds
                                                        If Olympic trusts them, then I trust them... Would love to see the list of books grow.

                                                        Now the question is, does Olympic trust them with $500 transactions or $50,000 transactions? If Olympic is not limiting these guys, I would say they are likely legit.

                                                        Sean
                                                        Thank you for your support Sean

                                                        Our list is growing. We are presently waiting for some cashier integrations and we will announce more books who have also already entered into agreements with us
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                                                        • increasedodds
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-20-06
                                                          • 819

                                                          #63
                                                          Hey,

                                                          If you grab most the C or better books here, I think you'll have a hell of a lot of business.

                                                          I'd also try to pick up the sportsbook group and betmania - both seem like they could use a good processor...

                                                          Sean
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                                                          • BAUS
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 2191

                                                            #64
                                                            Marianna,

                                                            If Betjamaica is listed as a client on your site, how come they aren't listed on Betjamaica's site ?

                                                            BAUS
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                                                            • MoneyWindow
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 09-15-07
                                                              • 20

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by BAUS
                                                              Marianna,

                                                              If Betjamaica is listed as a client on your site, how come they aren't listed on Betjamaica's site ?

                                                              BAUS
                                                              Hey Baus

                                                              Many sites working with us have not yet listed anything on their site(s) as many have not completed integration and others like BetJM are waiting for their cashier to integrate

                                                              You will see our logo showing up on many sites over the coming week as the integrations are done

                                                              In the meantime you can always send them a money transfer manually through our system
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #66
                                                                Mariana give me 15 minutes I am going to have a personal video for you so you should be honored.
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                                                                • MoneyWindow
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 09-15-07
                                                                  • 20

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  Mariana give me 15 minutes I am going to have a personal video for you so you should be honored.
                                                                  JJ

                                                                  I am not Mariana
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Well let her see this video

                                                                    Back too topic, I think as long as you have top books you will be fine

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                                                                    • biggamer3
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-16-07
                                                                      • 2163

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Dont mean to sound repetitive but what benefit does Money Window do for a US player paying with Moneygram?
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                                                                      • jjgold
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                                        • 388179

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Mariana video for you


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