If you put Lebron James in the worst Division 1 Team can they win the title?

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  • dynamite140
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    • 07-05-08
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    #1
    If you put Lebron James in the worst Division 1 Team can they win the title?
    I'm talking about putting Lebron James in the team after the seedings have been done. Lebron would not have played even 1 single game with the college team during the regular season.How far do you think they will go? I know one player does not make a team. But I am saying you put Lebron James into the 16th seed in a region and they play a 1 seed team like Kansas or Kentucky.

    Now i don't know those teams that usually are ranked 16th but do you guys say the 16th ranked team will still get beaten pretty badly if Lebron James plays for the 16th ranked team? Is there a chance they could actually win this game even though the rest of the team is probably horrible?

    How many players would you say is needed from the NBA and put into the worst team in the NCAA 16th ranked team in the region for them to have a chance to win the tournament? Obviously if you have Kobe Bryant, Paul Gasol and Ron Artest in the team and have 2 other players from the college team in the starting 5, its pretty obvious they would win the NCAA title easily right? I'm assuming these NBA players would get to practice with the weak college team for a few days before they play the tournament.

    How many NBA all star players do you say is needed for them to win the tourney? I'm guessing 2 players and they should be the favorite. What if its just someone like Kobe Bryant and thats it. Do you guys think they can win the title? If not, what about just the first game against the #1 ranked team in the region. I'm thinking of Kobe gets to shoot the ball almost every possession like he did versus the Raptors where he scored 81 points, he would be unstoppable. However, his other players will have to defend and Kobe would not be able to do that.

    Thoughts? If you put Lebron and Kobe in the 16th ranked team and have the other 8-9 weak college players in that team, would you say its a walk in the park for the college team to win the NCAA title even though its one and done? You have to count the liability of the other players on the team so what do you guys think.
  • Fishhead
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    • 08-11-05
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    #2
    nooooooooo
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    • UntilTheNDofTimE
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      • 05-29-08
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      #3
      kobe and gasol on a 16th rank team wud win,
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      • Richkas
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        • 02-03-08
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        #4
        no
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        • williams22
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          • 09-19-08
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          #5
          Watching Lebron in high school was a somewhat similar situation his senior year. His starters weren't scrubs, but none were great. They played a national schedule against prep schools like Oak Hill Academy and beat them.

          I'd say if you put Lebron on the 16th seed they could beat Kentucky. It's not his scoring that would do it, it's his court vision. Also, he would be able to make the team play way above their heads for a game or two.

          There's not a single player in NCAA who could come close to stopping him, and I'd venture to say they would need to triple him to get the ball out of his hands.
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          • Tree Rollins
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            • 12-16-09
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            #6
            Originally posted by williams22
            Watching Lebron in high school was a somewhat similar situation his senior year. His starters weren't scrubs, but none were great. They played a national schedule against prep schools like Oak Hill Academy and beat them.

            I'd say if you put Lebron on the 16th seed they could beat Kentucky. It's not his scoring that would do it, it's his court vision. Also, he would be able to make the team play way above their heads for a game or two.

            There's not a single player in NCAA who could come close to stopping him, and I'd venture to say they would need to triple him to get the ball out of his hands.
            How in the world is that a similar situation to his situation at St. Marys? the question was if you put him on a team with guys who he has never played a game with in his life. There were guys from that high school team who went D1. and others who played some level of college ball.

            Also, you can have the best court vision in the world, but if you have no idea who you're playing with it really limits your effectiveness. Do you pass it to your 3 in the corner? he might be a shitty 3 points shooter, or he sucks from corner. Do you throw a bullet pass to the guy open in the middle, or does he have terrible hands? Do you give it to your PF when he's posting up on the block, or is his post game terrible? It's hard to figure these things out without at least a significant amount of practice time with guys.

            Lebron would make the team dangerous but they wouldn't win it all, no chance.
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            • Yi
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              • 03-19-09
              • 646

              #7
              1.5 all stars

              You need an all star guard who can penetrate the defense and can consistently beat his man one on one, for example, Wade.

              Then you need a NBA bench big man, around 6'10 to 7ft tall, that can aggressively crash the boards and be a force in the middle. For example, players like Pryzbilla.

              With that combination, you can win the NCAA title.

              Every college team has gritty seniors that will play tough defense and shooters. The ability to play zone defenses in college will help disguise some of the weaker players defense deficiencies.

              When it comes down to it, you need an all star level guard that can penetrate zones and beat his man one on one. Then you need defensive minded big man in the middle.

              Kentucky has it this year.
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              • whatsgood5
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                #8
                I actually think any college team, that is in the tournament this year, could win the title with Lebron.
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                • Yi
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                  • 03-19-09
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                  #9
                  In the college game, Lebron can literally play all 5 positions effectively. I would actually play him at center and just let him start every fastbreak after grabbing the rebounds.
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                  • Tree Rollins
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                    • 12-16-09
                    • 3968

                    #10
                    Originally posted by whatsgood5
                    I actually think any college team, that is in the tournament this year, could win the title with Lebron.
                    Originally posted by Yi
                    In the college game, Lebron can literally play all 5 positions effectively. I would actually play him at center and just let him start every fastbreak after grabbing the rebounds.
                    Everyone has to remember. Lebron can't guard all 5 guys as well. When you get to the later stages of the tourny, each team will have at least a few NBA caliber athletes who can give Lebron at least a little trouble when he's on offense. And on defense, if he's playing with the worst team in the tourny, he can't cover for all the other guys on the court defensively.
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                    • williams22
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                      • 09-19-08
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                      How in the world is that a similar situation to his situation at St. Marys? the question was if you put him on a team with guys who he has never played a game with in his life. There were guys from that high school team who went D1. and others who played some level of college ball.

                      Also, you can have the best court vision in the world, but if you have no idea who you're playing with it really limits your effectiveness. Do you pass it to your 3 in the corner? he might be a shitty 3 points shooter, or he sucks from corner. Do you throw a bullet pass to the guy open in the middle, or does he have terrible hands? Do you give it to your PF when he's posting up on the block, or is his post game terrible? It's hard to figure these things out without at least a significant amount of practice time with guys.

                      Lebron would make the team dangerous but they wouldn't win it all, no chance.
                      You make a good point. I guess I was assuming he would at least have a practice to get to know the guys a little. Even without a practice though, I think he could give Kentucky a run for their money.
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                      • williams22
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                        • 09-19-08
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                        #12
                        I'm thinking of it this way, if you put Lebron on Cornell (most likely a 10-12 seed this year), yes, they would beat Kentucky and/or Kansas. I'm not sure about the scrub 16th seeds, but I would imagine there's a chance.
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                        • Tree Rollins
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by williams22

                          You make a good point. I guess I was assuming he would at least have a practice to get to know the guys a little. Even without a practice though, I think he could give Kentucky a run for their money.
                          If it was a one game playoff against Kentucky, i agree with you. Even if he hasn't practiced with his team. He has one game with a bunch of guys he doesn't know, but it's a must win, i could see it.
                          When he's playing in a tournament however, it's a different story, can he do that for 5 or 6 games against teams with guys who've played together for years? i don't know, it would be interesting though.
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                          • williams22
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                            If it was a one game playoff against Kentucky, i agree with you. Even if he hasn't practiced with his team. He has one game with a bunch of guys he doesn't know, but it's a must win, i could see it.
                            When he's playing in a tournament however, it's a different story, can he do that for 5 or 6 games against teams with guys who've played together for years? i don't know, it would be interesting though.
                            I'd pay any amount of money to see him try it. I think he could put up averages of something like 42-15-10. You also gotta remember the NCAA game is shorter so he would never need a rest.
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                            • Powderguy
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                              • 09-18-09
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                              #15
                              LMAO, hell no
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                              • king
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                                • 01-15-09
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                                #16
                                I would say yes Lebron will win a NCAA title. Look at Richie Parker who was one of the best high school player of his time with many top D1 school wanting him. After he got caught on rape chargers all top D1, mid D1, and low D1 didn't want him not because the campuses would be complaining that their is a rapist on campus. The only D1 school who took him was LIU which was a low D1 school. He took LIU to the sweet 16.

                                Now Lebron is a way better player then Richie Parker and if he would play at a low D1 team he can do better then just entering the sweet 16, most likely win the NCAA title. When I watch college basketball a lot of these guy don't really belong playing at the D1 level and when I see a guy 6'9" and can barely dunk or scared how you think they will handle LJ coming after them for a monster dunk.
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                                • Jshap1515
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                                  • 02-16-09
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by williams22
                                  There's not a single player in NCAA who could come close to stopping him, and I'd venture to say they would need to triple him to get the ball out of his hands.
                                  I agree. Theres not stopping him even with a double team in the NBA. A triple team would be the only way MAYBE to stop him in NCAA
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                                  • Tree Rollins
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                                    • 12-16-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by king
                                    I would say yes Lebron will win a NCAA title. Look at Richie Parker who was one of the best high school player of his time with many top D1 school wanting him. After he got caught on rape chargers all top D1, mid D1, and low D1 didn't want him not because the campuses would be complaining that their is a rapist on campus. The only D1 school who took him was LIU which was a low D1 school. He took LIU to the sweet 16.

                                    Now Lebron is a way better player then Richie Parker and if he would play at a low D1 team he can do better then just entering the sweet 16, most likely win the NCAA title. When I watch college basketball a lot of these guy don't really belong playing at the D1 level and when I see a guy 6'9" and can barely dunk or scared how you think they will handle LJ coming after them for a monster dunk.
                                    Right, but richie parker spent a lot of time playing with his teammates. In the question, it said you just throw Lebron on a team at the beg. of the tourny, he hasn't played with any of the guys before.
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                                    • dynamite140
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                                      • 07-05-08
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                                      #19
                                      i did mention he plays with them for 2 days b4 the tourney for practice
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                                      • TPowell
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                                        • 02-21-08
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                                        #20
                                        wouldnt work LeBron would be payed by Nike to job to Cal and UK........ WWE style!!
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                                        • mdemps9190
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                                          #21
                                          wtf my post was deleted
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                                          • lakerboy
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                                            #22
                                            This isnt gonna happen so lets not worry about it.
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                                            • CrimsonQueen
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                                              #23
                                              No way... one man isn't a team. He'd obviously raise their level of play, but when he's getting doubled the entire game, and the other team knows he's the only threat, it's over.
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                                              • sharpcat
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                                                #24
                                                Why the need for 2 threads on this question?????
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                                                • williams22
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by CrimsonQueen
                                                  No way... one man isn't a team. He'd obviously raise their level of play, but when he's getting doubled the entire game, and the other team knows he's the only threat, it's over.
                                                  Doesn't matter. Lebron makes Anderson Varejao and JJ Hickson look like offensive forces at times. I can only judge by Cornell as its the only potentially low-ranked team I know well, but I would bet against Cornell+Lebron against any team in the NCAA straight up without even thinking twice.
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                                                  • FrozenMAN
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                                                    #26
                                                    LOL nope, now if it was carmelo then yes
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                                                    • dynamite140
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                                                      #27
                                                      its not like they wont have a playbook or anythign.. they will have one.
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                                                      • talnted
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                                                        #28
                                                        hahah, yeah they would win
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                                                        • DaColts
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                                                          #29
                                                          They would win going away
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                                                          • suckerforparlays
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                                                            #30
                                                            a 16 seed would be from the shitty conference of SWAC or NEC

                                                            Robert Morris from the NEC I dunno if lebron could do it all by himself with a Robert Morris ball club they really stink and there in first in the NEC that conference is a joke!
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                                                            • JBQB107
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                                                              #31
                                                              hands down...they could lead a team far..i don't know about winning a championship..but they would take them far
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                                                              • Vesuvius
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                                                                #32
                                                                Put LeBron on the Duke squad and they would be unstoppable.
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                                                                • suckerforparlays
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Vesuvius
                                                                  Put LeBron on the Duke squad and they would be unstoppable.

                                                                  duh???


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                                                                  • Ralphie1412
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                                                                    • 01-29-08
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                    This isnt gonna happen so lets not worry about it.
                                                                    what a stupid comment......yes we are all aware that lebron wont be going to college to try and with the tournament
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                                                                    • Q
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                                                                      • 11-16-09
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      no because they would not win because he would be a ball hog just like he is in the nba. Try to take over the game by himself and loose. in the final 4
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