Steelers as 6th seed starting to look more than possible

[poker_dummy101]

Dreams will be shattered when Flacco throws for 325 and 4 TD's... Pitt's D isnt the same...

if polamalu can come back it is a whole difference defense

tyrone carter or w/e his name is is the dumbest piece of shit in the NFL

[PAULYPOKER]

I could see the Steelers, Denver and Baltimore all finishing 9-7, and though I might be wrong about this, I think the Steelers are the odd team out in this scenario. Don't ask me why or how; my head hurts just thinking about the damn tiebreaking factors.

Steelers will win tie breakers against following teams Tennessee &Denver simply cause they beat them during regular season.
Now these teams would beat Pittsburgh in a tie breaker because of better AFC conference record : Jags&Jets
Miami&Baltimore not a factor cause Steelers play them

So this leaves the Texans and they are tied with Steelers as far as conference record goes but The Texans beat the Bengals so they would probably win tie breaker
So since that's been said the following have to happen for the Steelers if they win out: jags ,jets , and Texans lose one of their last two games or if Baltimore loses their last game one of the first three don't have to happen.




Steelers will

[Whirlaway]

4th down play shattered my life

[filter15]

I was gonna say the same thing, if you have a prop bet for the steelers thats a good bet. I think itll happen

[yisman]

Steelers will win tie breakers against following teams Tennessee &Denver simply cause they beat them during regular season.

Probably doesn't come into play.

If there are 3+ 9-7 teams, HTH goes out the window. HTH is only applicable if it's a two team tiebreaker.

In other words, if the Steelers tied only Tennessee or only Denver, they'd win the tiebreaker. If not, it goes to conference record.

[PAULYPOKER]

obviously they make playoffs, since i said they win super bowl.. werent YOU the one saying basically no chance>

Yes sir but that was before I thougt and figured out their actual chances turns out they just about control their own destiny
however they will not be able to go the entire way without Troy.
Ben simply can't hold the weight for that many games and if he does it that would make him already the all time greatest QB ever in his 6th season of play.

[poker_dummy101]

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[poker_dummy101]

If Ravens, Steelers, Broncos are all tied at 9-7 (which I believe will happen), I think Ravens get the 5th seed and Steelers get the 6th

[PAULYPOKER]

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
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Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
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3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
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8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

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1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
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In plain English these are the determining factors that have to happen for steeler chances to get on the road to the super bowl I figured It all out and to the best of my knowledge is correct:

Steelers will win tie breakers against following teams Tennessee &Denver simply cause they beat them during regular season.
Now these teams would beat Pittsburgh in a tie breaker because of better AFC conference record : Jags&Jets
Miami&Baltimore not a factor cause Steelers play them

So this leaves the Texans and they are tied with Steelers as far as conference record goes but The Texans beat the Bengals so they would probably win tie breaker
So since that's been said the following have to happen for the Steelers if they win out: jags ,jets , and Texans HAVE to lose one of their two games and the Steelers are in period dot end of story

Jaguars lose 1 out of 2
+
Jets lose 1 out of 2
+
Texans lose 1 out of 2
+
Steelers win 2 out of 2
=
Steelers in playoffs




Steelers will

[poker_dummy101]

.

Congrats, you have made my ignore feature.

[yisman]

PAULY, you ignored what I told you.

[PAULYPOKER]

I'm comfortable with them odds considering Troy comes back this week.

[PAULYPOKER]

PAULY, you ignored what I told you.

what did I ignore? maybe I did'nt see it

[PAULYPOKER]

congrats, you have made my ignore feature.

sorry if it's over your head but i kind of expected that.

And ditto to your comment.

[jayroy25]

they gota big game with baltimore comin up though. it gonna be a great last 2 weeks in the nfl

[PAULYPOKER]

Yes sir it is and I can't wait

[yisman]

Steelers will win tie breakers against following teams Tennessee &Denver simply cause they beat them during regular season.

Probably doesn't come into play. If there are 3+ 9-7 teams, HTH goes out the window. HTH is only applicable if it's a two team tiebreaker. In other words, if the Steelers tied only Tennessee or only Denver, they'd win the tiebreaker. If not, it goes to conference record.

In plain English these are the determining factors that have to happen for steeler chances to get on the road to the super bowl I figured It all out and to the best of my knowledge is correct: Steelers will win tie breakers against following teams Tennessee &Denver simply cause they beat them during regular season.

/ b

[poker_dummy101]

yis, use the ignore function.. this guy is a clown

[jjgold]

Way too many things to happen, will be a miracle if they get in.

[PAULYPOKER]

Probably doesn't come into play. If there are 3+ 9-7 teams, HTH goes out the window. HTH is only applicable if it's a two team tiebreaker. In other words, if the Steelers tied only Tennessee or only Denver, they'd win the tiebreaker. If not, it goes to conference record.

I did'nt ignore you It just did'nt sink in but as I can see now you did actually already tell me this but I must of had a mental block

[Chi_archie]

Let us begin with the easy part. The Steelers must win their final two games, Sunday against Baltimore at Heinz Field and Jan. 3 at Miami, to finish 9-7. Lose one, and they are done; no playoffs for the reigning Super Bowl champs.
The Steelers cannot win the AFC North Division, as they did the past two years, so they must secure one of two wildcard playoff spots available in the AFC to join the four division winners from the conference.
The difficult part comes trying to determine the many other scenarios. There are two potential wildcard playoff teams with better records than the Steelers, Baltimore and Denver at 8-6. Five other teams besides the Steelers stand 7-7.
They all likely will not finish with the same record, and the Steelers can eliminate the Dolphins from the equation when the two play on Jan. 3 in Miami.
If two teams tie for the final playoff spot, that is easy to determine. The first tiebreaker would be their head-to-head result. For example, if the Steelers and Denver tie, the Steelers would get the playoff nod based on their victory at Denver this season. The next tiebreaker would be best record within their division (if the two tied teams are in the same division). That's not good for the Steelers because, if they beat Baltimore Sunday and they both wind up 9-7, Baltimore gets the nod based on its better record against AFC North teams this season. If two teams tie and they are not from the same division and they did not play each other, the nod goes to the team with the best record against AFC opponents. If that, too, is tied, they look at the common games each team played and take the team with the best record against those.
Where it really becomes complicated is when three or more teams are tied for a wildcard playoff spot.
That could be good, or bad, for the Steelers because their 4-6 record in the AFC does not help if it gets to that tiebreaker. Of the 7-7 teams, Jacksonville (6-4) and the New York Jets (5-5) both have better AFC records.
That could be good, or bad, for the Steelers because their 4-6 record in the AFC does not help if it gets to that tiebreaker. Of the 7-7 teams, Jacksonville (6-4) and the New York Jets (5-5) both have better AFC records.
Because there are so many scenarios, and newspaper space and readers' attention are not unlimited, we must turn to logic. So here goes:
We have to assume the Steelers finish the season 9-7 or there would be no reason to do this. That would eliminate Miami and reduce Baltimore to 9-7 at best. The Jets must play both the Colts and Bengals; New York is likely are to lose one and miss out. Jacksonville has to finish at New England and at Cleveland and the Jaguars also are likely to lose at least one and be done.
That would leave Tennessee, Houston, Baltimore and Denver. The Steelers would win tiebreakers over both Tennessee and Houston.
So, it could readily come down to Baltimore and Denver. If those two and the Steelers finish tied at 9-7, the Steelers and Ravens would earn the two wildcard playoff spots. In that scenario, the NFL would break the tie between the Steelers and Ravens first, because they reside in the same division. The Ravens would advance, based on their better division record.
Then, they would pit the Ravens against the Broncos and Baltimore would win because the Ravens beat Denver. The NFL would then break the tie between the Steelers and Broncos for the final playoff spot, and Denver would lose out because they lost to the Steelers this season.
Have all that?
Other than that, here are some teams to pull for or against if you want to see the Steelers in the playoffs: Root against the Jets and Jaguars to lose at least one game. This weekend, pull for Philadelphia to beat Denver. Next weekend, pull for Oakland to beat Baltimore.

[podunk]

steelers are done

[PAULYPOKER]

steelers are done

We shall see podunk!!! WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT A LITTLE WAGER ON YOUR ACCUSATION?

[Chi_archie]

Joey Galloway will lead the steelers back to the promise land.......

[podunk]

We shall see podunk!!! WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT A LITTLE WAGER ON YOUR ACCUSATION?

stick a fork in those steelers. how many points to you want to wager?

[PAULYPOKER]

stick a fork in those steelers. how many points to you want to wager?

2:1 ratio meaning if I win you pay me twice the bet. Example: say we agree to 10 Pts. as the wager if I win you pay me 20 if you win I pay you 10...Fair?

[podunk]

2:1 ratio meaning if I win you pay me twice the bet. Example: say we agree to 10 Pts. as the wager if I win you pay me 20 if you win I pay you 10...Fair?

sounds good to me

[hoopster42]

if the steelers make the playoffs theyll just get excused in the wildcard round anyways

[yisman]

I highly doubt they make it. Pauly, want to do another wager at the same terms?

[PAULYPOKER]

I highly doubt they make it. Pauly, want to do another wager at the same terms?

Sure: this is the WAGER: I will bet you Steelers make the playoffs I will risk 50 points to your 100 If I win you award this post 100points when out come is known if I lose I will award your AGREEMENT&response to this post 50points AGREED?

[HedgeHog]

Controling one's own destiny is a basic concept. Pitt could win their final two and still miss the playoffs, therefore they do not control their own destiny.

[PAULYPOKER]

Controling one's own destiny is a basic concept. Pitt could win their final two and still miss the playoffs, therefore they do not control their own destiny.

If you are talking to me you are wrong I said the Steelers just about controled their
own destiny
Denver lose 1 out of 2
+
Jaguars lose 1 out of 2
+
Jets lose 1 out of 2
+
Steelers win 2 out of 2
=
Steelers in playoffs

[yisman]

Sure: this is the WAGER: I will bet you Steelers make the playoffs I will risk 50 points to your 100 If I win you award this post 100points when out come is known if I lose I will award your AGREEMENT&response to this post 50points AGREED?

agreed, Pauly.

If the Steelers don't make the playoffs, you pay me 50.

If they do, I pay you 100.

[PAULYPOKER]

sounds good to me

you have no points to wager

[PAULYPOKER]

Associated Press
PITTSBURGH -- Steelers safety Troy Polamalu didn't practice again Wednesday because of his injured left knee ligament and doesn't expect to play this weekend against the Baltimore Ravens.
Polamalu is "encouraged" by an MRI test he had Tuesday, but he doesn't anticipate practicing this week. Asked if he needs a week of practice before playing again, he said, "I would think so."
Anatomy of a Play
Gene Puskar/Associated Press NFL Films' Greg Cosell explains how Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger's 35-yard touchdown pass to Mike Wallace effectively preserved the team's playoff hopes for at least one more week. More ...


The five-time Pro Bowl safety has missed nine full games and most of two others because of separate ligament injuries in his left knee. He hasn't played since the opening series of a Nov. 15 game against the Cincinnati Bengals, although he has been working out in anticipation of a return.
"I've tried everything -- running, lifting, rehab," he said Wednesday.
Last week, Polamalu said he hoped to play in the Jan. 3 regular-season finale against the Miami Dolphins.
Since Polamalu sprained his posterior cruciate ligament, the Steelers (7-7) have won only one of the six games he hasn't finished. They were 2-2 when Polamalu missed four games early in the season with a sprained anterior cruciate ligament.
Without Polamalu, the Steelers' defense has lost leads in the fourth quarter six times, and they recovered to win only one. Polamalu leads the Steelers with three interceptions despite playing just three full games all season.
"I don't believe that at all," Polamalu said when asked if his absence is hindering the Steelers' ability to close out games. "I've been part of a lot of defenses here, defenses that lost games in the fourth quarter. I don't think one man makes that big of a difference. There's not one player who is irreplaceable."
The Steelers ended a five-game losing streak last Sunday by beating the Green Bay Packers 37-36, despite twice giving up the lead in the fourth quarter. The comeback victory kept their modest playoff hopes alive.
"I think everybody feels a little better this week," Polamalu said. "We've got to get our confidence back, get in those situations and win in those situations."
Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press