Big ben or Drew Brees

unde0087 · 10-27-09, 01:13 AM

this is a no brainer, Big Ben is good because he has the best defense in the league every year to keep him in games. If he was on a team with a half ass defense his career record would be under .500. He is good for 1 or 2 plays a game, in between getting sacked 5 times and incomplete pass after imcomplete pass, and that is usually enough after Steelers defense scores or holds the other team to nothing, case and point Vikings game.

Drew hands down, he just takes over games, it doesn't matter who they are playing

PocketRocket · 10-27-09, 01:16 AM

Brees

ipickwinners · 10-27-09, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by unde0087

this is a no brainer, Big Ben is good because he has the best defense in the league every year to keep him in games. If he was on a team with a half ass defense his career record would be under .500. He is good for 1 or 2 plays a game, in between getting sacked 5 times and incomplete pass after imcomplete pass, and that is usually enough after Steelers defense scores or holds the other team to nothing, case and point Vikings game.

Drew hands down, he just takes over games, it doesn't matter who they are playing

your not too bright are you? u do know he does have two super bowl rings, so what if he had a good defense, is that his fault?

big ben gets sacked 5 times a game because he has one of the worst offensive line in the league and has 3 starters out for the year....

i belive big been is the youngest QB to reach 100 wins in his carer

big bens completion percentage is 70% on the year, good for #2 in the league behind peyton manning, so no idea where u get the thought of him being inaccurate, you're just an idiot i guess

big ben actually has a lot of 4th quarter comeback/game winning drives in his career, i think he is #2 in that department since he came into the league actually

this guy is a fcking idiot.....you have got to be a moron if you would take brees over big ben

MexicanStallion · 10-27-09, 01:28 AM

I would take Big Ben

L2Gunz · 10-27-09, 01:28 AM

Drew Brees

unde0087 · 10-27-09, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by ipickwinners

your not too bright are you? u do know he does have two super bowl rings, so what if he had a good defense, is that his fault?

big ben gets sacked 5 times a game because he has one of the worst offensive line in the league and has 3 starters out for the year....

i belive big been is the youngest QB to reach 100 wins in his carer

big bens completion percentage is 70% on the year, good for #2 in the league behind peyton manning, so no idea where u get the thought of him being inaccurate, you're just an idiot i guess

big ben actually has a lot of 4th quarter comeback/game winning drives in his career, i think he is #2 in that department since he came into the league actually

this guy is a fcking idiot.....you have got to be a moron if you would take brees over big ben

The Steelers won those super bowls with defense and smash mouth football not by Big Ben leading the way. He was just asked to manage the game not try and win any of them. Not saying he is the worst quarterback in the league, just saying he gets alot of credit for what the defense and running game have given him over the years. Ya he is having a great year but still trailing Brees in touchdowns and has thrown more picks.

ipickwinners · 10-27-09, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by unde0087

The Steelers won those super bowls with defense and smash mouth running of the football not Big Ben.

ill give the 1st one to that opinion, but ben took them to the superbowl that year actually.....and the 2nd one, are u kidding me? did u watch the game???? he drove them 90 yards for the winning score with less than two minutes, and made the winning TD throw. did u not watch the game?????????? big ben won them their 2nd superbowl...he went 21/30 for 256....1 TD and 1 INT

syalazi · 10-27-09, 01:35 AM

ben is still nice but brees i think is just a better qb on an ok team till this year

Enogsiwon · 10-27-09, 01:37 AM

If you say Brees you have no idea what it takes to win...

Ben

ipickwinners · 10-27-09, 01:41 AM

in the 3 playoff games that the steelers played to get to the superbowl in 2005 here are big bens numbers .....49 out of 72 = 68%...680 yards....226 yards per game....7 TDS 1 INT....if that isnt doing it for u for the guys 2nd year in the league, i dont know what to tell u

ipickwinners · 10-27-09, 01:42 AM

ben just has that it factor, brees is good, top 5 QB in the league, but ben is better

uranId10t · 10-27-09, 04:06 AM

Ben > Brees

Switch Bens Offensive line with Bree's Offensive line ... Then Brees wont look that good, and Ben would be a football god lol

Gemoka · 10-27-09, 04:35 AM

Brees

Leverage · 10-27-09, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by uranId10t

Ben > Brees

Switch Bens Offensive line with Bree's Offensive line ... Then Brees wont look that good, and Ben would be a football god lol

ditto

shantystar · 10-27-09, 05:00 AM

Drew Brees

jjgold · 10-27-09, 05:06 AM

Brees but Big Ben is showing he can be a big big time passer also this year.

madmaxx · 10-27-09, 05:22 AM

What has Brees ever won? This guy had some good years and some horrid years in San Diego. Ben is a complete asshole as a person and scrambles around like a fag alot but somehow wins. Both have had losing seasons though. And neither are a top 3 QB.

MickChunky · 10-27-09, 09:04 AM

In Fantasy I'd take Ben, he's much more consistent. Brees puts up huge numbers one week, and nothing the next

ryanjep · 10-27-09, 09:05 AM

brees is deadly accurate

hhsilver · 10-27-09, 09:36 AM

Please don't go by who won Super Bowls -- it is a TEAM game. however the final drive in the last super bowl is one of the all time greats and it was led by Ben. Remember the penalty that had them back at about the 10 with a long way for a 1st down.

Forget super bowls - Ben is a football player - a stud - one of the few today who would thrive in the days before all these pansy protect the fragile qb rules.

Brees is great , but I'll take Ben.

lakerboy · 10-27-09, 10:34 AM

Ben is a dream QB-he is actually a LB. Brees is like Marino he gets numbers. So if you want to win you take Ben if you want numbers you take Drew. I like to win so i take Ben.

Madukwe · 10-27-09, 10:40 AM

drew brees, hands down

ben isn't even close

Richkas · 10-27-09, 11:04 AM

Big Ben is a winner. Brees hasnt won nothing yet. That said it would be a tough choice. It all depends what kind of offense you have.

daggerkobe · 10-27-09, 11:10 AM

Big Ben wins championships......... Brees wins meaningless regular season stats titles.

madmaxx · 10-27-09, 11:16 AM

Brees sucks

smarmy · 10-27-09, 11:18 AM

Brees. He hasn't raped anyone. ER.....ALLEGEDLY!

Vesuvius · 10-27-09, 11:31 AM

Big Ben is a winner. Good stats, bad stats, he wins.

Brees ... good stats, who cares, no championships.

smarmy · 10-27-09, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Vesuvius

Big Ben is a winner. Good stats, bad stats, he wins.

Brees ... good stats, who cares, no championships.

So by that thinking, Dan Marino was a bad QB as well?

L2Gunz · 10-27-09, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by madmaxx

Brees sucks

you cant be ****n serious right???

oh nevermind...i see your avatar!!!

SCRAGGS · 10-27-09, 04:26 PM

[quote=ipickwinners;2453280]your not too bright are you? u do know he does have two super bowl rings, so what if he had a good defense, is that his fault?

Let me tell you something, big ben had nothing to due with that first SB win
his QB rating was the losest in SB history, he sucked that day, if not for the
zebras pitt loses that game.

ZBOIZ · 10-27-09, 04:42 PM

Why is this a question Brees!

Ben is not no were near accurate as Brees

ZBOIZ · 10-27-09, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Big Ben wins championships......... Brees wins meaningless regular season stats titles.

Not because of him!

Mainly because of his defense.

Without his defense he would'nt have won A superbowl.

Brees led the Saints to the playoffs in 06 without a TAP of defense. LET ME SEE BEN EVEN TRY TO DO IT!!

IF PITT DID'NT HAVE A DEFENSE THEY WOULD AVERAGE SOMETHING LIKE 10 POINTS A GAME! BECAUSE THERE OFFENSE IS NOT POTENT! THEY NEED A DEFENSE TO BACK THAT SHAKEY OFFENSE UP!

Chi_archie · 10-27-09, 04:45 PM

their career completion % and QB rating numbers are near identical. They are both the right QB's for their systems I don't think either team would trade for the other.

LT Profits · 10-27-09, 04:45 PM

Brees is one of three best QBs in league and he is still fairly young, so he seems like a no-brainer choice to me.

Now, I totally respect what Ben has done in the clutch, and I actually think he is still underrated a bit because everyone thinks he is just a "system" QB when in fact he is a good passer that could have better stats on a passing team. That said, I think Brees would have put up even better numbers if he was the Steelers QB in the Super Bowl years.