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    tell me im a savant later or maybe just a retard, BUT WRITE IT DOWN: BUCS WIN 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richkas View Post
    Where do you live? I bleed blue and gold baby. This team has a legit chance at winning the west.

    Come on pally!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richkas View Post
    Where do you live? I bleed blue and gold baby. This team has a legit chance at winning the west.
    Packer land. I like the Rams to surprise some people, but they are still the underdog in that division. Just not nearly as bad as their record last year. They really need a WR to step up.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMUplayer View Post
    Did someone just say Bulger is "LEGIT"?
    If you think he's even in the top 1/2 of signal callers in the NFL you are sadly mistaken.
    Ok, here's my list:

    1. Peyton Manning IND; 1. Tom .Brady NE; 3. Ben Roethlisberger PIT; 4. Drew Brees NO; 5. Eli Manning NYG; 6. Carson Palmer CIN; 7. Phillip Rivers SD; 8. Kurt Warner ARI; 9. Donovan McNabb PHI; 10. Jay Cutler CHI; 11. Marc Bulger STL; 12. Matt Ryan ATL; 13. Brett Favre Min; 14. Tony Romo DAL; 15. David Garrard JAX; 16. Aaron Rodgers GB; 17. Joe Flacco BAL; 18. Matt Hasselbeck SEA; 19. Jake Delhomme CAR; 20. Chad Pennington MIA; 21. Trent Edwards BUF; 22. Matt Cassel KC; 23. Daunte Culpepper DET; 24. Derek Anderson CLE; 25. Jason Campbell WAS; 26. Kerry Collins TN; 27. Matt Schaub HOU; 28. Mark Sanchez NYJ; 29. Luke McCown TB; 30. Kyle Orton DEN; 31. Shaun Hill SF; 32. JaMarcus Russell OAK.

    I think the top 10 is pretty standard. I've got Bulger at #11 ahead of guys like Favre (too old), Ryan (too young), Romo (too erratic), etc. But the 11-19 list is pretty close and I'd consider all of those QBs to be solid. Once we get down to guys like Pennington, Edwards, Cassel, etc, I'm not convinced. Granted, Bulger will be working with lesser WRs than most other NFL QBs, so his numbers probably won't be comparable. But we're not talking about fantasy numbers, we're talking about raw QB ability in 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RageWizard View Post
    Looking at the Sched, you can hardly make the case for a win for even 1 spot. They are in a freaky division that doesn't ever pan out like people think. I say they win 2 divisional games, and surprise 2 other teams at home like the Jets, and Green Bay for a total of 4 wins.
    Prospective whole season spreads show the Fucs as favs. in only 2 games! Jets and GB! Of course these change as the year goes on, but kinda interesting? Under 6 has to look good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Packer land. I like the Rams to surprise some people, but they are still the underdog in that division. Just not nearly as bad as their record last year. They really need a WR to step up.

    Ok, here's my list:

    1. Peyton Manning IND; 1. Tom .Brady NE; 3. Ben Roethlisberger PIT; 4. Drew Brees NO; 5. Eli Manning NYG; 6. Carson Palmer CIN; 7. Phillip Rivers SD; 8. Kurt Warner ARI; 9. Donovan McNabb PHI; 10. Jay Cutler CHI; 11. Marc Bulger STL; 12. Matt Ryan ATL; 13. Brett Favre Min; 14. Tony Romo DAL; 15. David Garrard JAX; 16. Aaron Rodgers GB; 17. Joe Flacco BAL; 18. Matt Hasselbeck SEA; 19. Jake Delhomme CAR; 20. Chad Pennington MIA; 21. Trent Edwards BUF; 22. Matt Cassel KC; 23. Daunte Culpepper DET; 24. Derek Anderson CLE; 25. Jason Campbell WAS; 26. Kerry Collins TN; 27. Matt Schaub HOU; 28. Mark Sanchez NYJ; 29. Luke McCown TB; 30. Kyle Orton DEN; 31. Shaun Hill SF; 32. JaMarcus Russell OAK.

    I think the top 10 is pretty standard. I've got Bulger at #11 ahead of guys like Favre (too old), Ryan (too young), Romo (too erratic), etc. But the 11-19 list is pretty close and I'd consider all of those QBs to be solid. Once we get down to guys like Pennington, Edwards, Cassel, etc, I'm not convinced. Granted, Bulger will be working with lesser WRs than most other NFL QBs, so his numbers probably won't be comparable. But we're not talking about fantasy numbers, we're talking about raw QB ability in 2009.

    Flip Shaub and Bulger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Lions will be worse. They have decided to go with Staffag instead of Culppeper
    Lions are far worse.... Buffalo KC and St.louis all probably are as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by element1286 View Post
    Flip Shaub and Bulger.
    I could probably bump Shaub up a few spots. I'm just not super impressed with him. He'd definitely not a top 20 QB. He should have much better stats considering that he's throwing to the best WR in the NFL. Plus he can't stay healthy for a full season. He's only had the starting job for a couple years and hasn't really blown me away or anything. Granted, this year might be a big year for him. I should definitely have him above Cassell. I could easily flip Schaub & Pennington on my list. I'm just not a Pennington fan.

    Bulger is in a different class than any of the guys mentioned in the above paragraph. He's got the experience, arm, QB IQ, game management, etc. I even like his durability if he could get behind a line that could block worth a damn. This year things are looking better than in past years, but he is lacking in WR support. But that's one position where talent can emerge. Keep negging the Rams, just remember.

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    The Yucs will win 1-4 games this year. Lock it up.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/nfl-handic...uccaneers.html

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    They are -6 to a team who a majority of the people think will finish around .500 AT HOME..........

    Enough said.

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    None of you ****ers are psychic and you have NO IDEA how well or bad they will do. They are running a new 4-3 scheme on Defense they got Leftwitch, 2 things they didnt last year. You dont know how those factors will work, yea TB probably gonna suck but you dont know that and to say they are gonna win 3 games? What did you lose a little pre-season wager on them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy0607 View Post
    Bucs are gonna surprise a lot of people this year
    So far your right, they are worse than even expected.

    The facts are this team will have to pull off at least ONE upset if they are to win TWO OR MORE GAMES, as looking at the schedule right now, I see them as being tabbed a favorite in no more then one game from here on out.

    They will have to fight and claw to win four games or more from this point on.

    Moving to a new QB this week was a start in the right direction.

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    They may not COVER more than 3 games this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat venditto View Post
    I'll gladly take the over 3 fishhead!
    You dodged a bullet................

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    Watched this team against the Giants.

    My impression after that game was that they're a 2 win team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenMAN View Post
    tell me im a savant later or maybe just a retard, BUT WRITE IT DOWN: BUCS WIN 7
    god we are AWFUL, but should have 1 W from last week, we had the skins too.....

    gonna be a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG season...

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    Wow we are bad

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    and the schedule doesnt help either

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    there's about 6 teams that will be hard pressed to win more than 3 games and Tampa is one of them
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    I think the only team we can beat is the panthers

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenMAN View Post
    tell me im a savant later or maybe just a retard, BUT WRITE IT DOWN: BUCS WIN 7

    may not get 7 but FREEMAN LOOKED GREAT TODAY


    #1 BABY!!!!

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    errr, no chance at 7. 4 or 5, tops.
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