Highly recommend the SIERRA NEVADA OCTOBERFEST beer
OUTSTANDING
POLISHED off 9 last evening, on 3rd now
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mjsuax13
Moderator
03-14-15
25078
#72
Originally posted by Fishhead
Great guy, lots of good times and memories with him(and Mark)............we did lots of things outside of work together..........bars, golf, spring training games, etc.etc.
We has a great staff at the Sands from top to bottom, legendary.
How long have you been in Las Vegas?
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lonegambler23
SBR Hall of Famer
06-22-16
9760
#73
golds puppet show has been over for quite some time.
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mjsuax13
Moderator
03-14-15
25078
#74
Originally posted by lonegambler23
golds puppet show has been over for quite some time.
HA! His little sock puppet probably still in action though.
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#75
Originally posted by mjsuax13
How long have you been in Las Vegas?
1983-2002
2010-present
Roughly 30 years
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#76
Fishhead Avello big time
You’re working at Hoover damn still giving tours come on
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Al Masters
SBR Hall of Famer
04-29-06
6940
#77
Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
KVB consistently cannot even read. Why would anyone think he can win and buy coaching videos?
It is a shame what this site is coming to.
Leave, please leave the site, pretty please with a cherry on top.
Your act is sickening.
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#78
Originally posted by jjgold
Fishhead Avello big time
You’re working at Hoover damn still giving tours come on
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thomorino
Restricted User
06-01-17
45842
#79
Sands no longer has a position in Vegas, they eivest d from their Vegas holdings over the last year.
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Roger T. Bannon
SBR Hall of Famer
06-28-18
5139
#80
Originally posted by Al Masters
Leave, please leave the site, pretty please with a cherry on top.
Your act is sickening.
I think you will probably be beating me to it.
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thomorino
Restricted User
06-01-17
45842
#81
Sands divested from Vegas.
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#82
The SANDS was awesome
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#83
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#84
Closed 25 years ago
It seems like 1.5 years ago was working there
TIME FLIES
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#85
Originally posted by Fishhead
Short post, but well stated.
Yeah, since SBR made an announcement you can see who’s trying too har$.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#86
Originally posted by d2bets
I don't know if it varies by state, but I can say for sure that Draftkings changed/tightened up significantly recently (within the past couple weeks). Quite unfortunate and limiting (literally) for professional bettors, although not quite a death blow (yet). You just never know how they might change at any given time. Fanduel has undergone various alterations in the past as well.
I was under the impression that they were welcoming big betting to show big volume and leadership to shareholders, but maybe that was only for a "limited" time. I guess even DK has a "pain" threshold.
100% rec book.
We can move seven figures in and out of Vegas and and New Jersey houses. It can be done in a quicker time than it could ever be done offshore. It’s about who you know and them working with you.
DK has a long way to go and may never get there because of their business model.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65450
#87
Fish?
Did you open up for Sammy?
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#88
Originally posted by KVB
DK has a long way to go and may never get there because of their business model.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#89
I wonder who top guy is there?
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#90
Originally posted by stevenash
Fish?
Did you open up for Sammy?
LOL
Gawd I loved that place.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65450
#91
Originally posted by jjgold
I wonder who top guy is there?
DraftKings?
Still Jason Robins.
He founded DK and he ain't giving it up.
Business genius
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Roger T. Bannon
SBR Hall of Famer
06-28-18
5139
#92
DraftKings is the only US sportsbook with a vision.
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PaperTrail07
SBR Posting Legend
08-29-08
20423
#93
They are thinking WAY more long term...... you know Caesars is scared when they start tossing out 5K free bets. LOL....
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65450
#94
Originally posted by Fishhead
LOL
Gawd I loved that place.
When I was a kid I remember seeing the old Thunderbird and the Marina.
They were long gone when I became of legal age.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65450
#95
Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
DraftKings is the only US sportsbook with a vision.
Robins said the other day (Monday I think) in a business presser that he "thinks he's moving too fast"
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PaperTrail07
SBR Posting Legend
08-29-08
20423
#96
Your not kidding----many books will continue to take wagers, but they are going to be the whale....same game parlays, odds boost.....they know they can win with WITHOUT JUICE.....so theyll give a little to earn your long term LOSING business....they are going to be a GIANT........
Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
DraftKings is the only US sportsbook with a vision.
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Roger T. Bannon
SBR Hall of Famer
06-28-18
5139
#97
Originally posted by stevenash
Robins said the other day (Monday I think) in a business presser that he "thinks he's moving too fast"
Probably. They definitely know what they are doing.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#98
Originally posted by PaperTrail07
They are thinking WAY more long term...... you know Caesars is scared when they start tossing out 5K free bets. LOL....
Caeser's also fell to the corporate model, but luckily I still have connections.
I could not go anywhere in the country and get the 5k free bet under my own name.
It's not that they might not give it to me, it's that I would get slapped on the wrist in Vegas for accepting it.
I mention in my introductory video that some will get to a point where accepting bonuses is simply not part of the play to keep a relationship with a book. If you guys are successful and know how to adjust, do what I said in the video.
Also find friends that have been betting for a couple years, just tossing money at their favorite team, etc, then while they are still betting you can run a program over them. Probably get into that more in some future video.
For those succeeding or on the verge of success and growth, it's going to be tougher to develop those relationships with DK.
I doubt the operators even have a rolodex at those books, bottom line is their hands are mostly tied.
DraftKings CEO Jason Robins said on Thursday that he believes sports betting being allowed in more states will take his company from "high growth to hyper growth."
DraftKings CEO Jason Robins said he has "ambitions" for his company to be like Amazon in the long-term as it pertains to expanding its products and services.
There's other business news links
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#100
Originally posted by stevenash
When I was a kid I remember seeing the old Thunderbird and the Marina.
They were long gone when I became of legal age.
Marina was unique, spent many a day in there............they once threw me out saying I was controlling the dice, CLOWNS.
Marina was unique, spent many a day in there............they once threw me out saying I was controlling the dice, CLOWNS.
I used to yell at the dealers for grilling the dice with the rake before pushing them back to me.
I would accuse them of fixing the game by trying to eliminate my control.
At one point, every dealer in Harrah's Tahoe knew to just push the dice to me, some were even careful, doing it slowly, so neither of them would even so much as turn over.
If I threw a 1-5, I got back the 1-5, every time.
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#103
Originally posted by jjgold
Play USA Books
I suggest USA, OFFSHORE, CREDIT, JUICEFREE FORUMS.
No sense limiting oneself to just USA
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#104
Originally posted by jjgold
Play USA Books
Naturally, it's where the money is at, even I am not scurred to play into the -110. My NCAAF spread Fund that I've posted is mostly -110 numbers.
But Gold it's getting time to start being a bit more specific about what USA books to play.
You can still stay true to your gripe about pricing, even when comparing US books.
Gold, you need a comprehensive review of those US books that will take porfessional action? Here's a hint, it's not the new guys, it's the guys that are well established, especially with the bettors.
Jersey and Vegas have practically anything any pro needs, while Iowa, Colorado, and PA will likely never cater to pros on a large scale.
I would suggest, if you are in those states and understand the numbers behind the game, to start building relationships.
Contact the managers, get special accounts opened, and give them your business. Some will appreciate it. Some won't be able to cater to you at all.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#105
Originally posted by Fishhead
I suggest USA, OFFSHORE, CREDIT, JUICEFREE FORUMS.
No sense limiting oneself to just USA
There are reasons though, depending on the size of your rolls.
In the USA we have commissions, to not only avoid shady business and unnecessary delays, but to also settle disputes, like, say, a poorly worded prop bet.
You can't get that protection off shore.
Like I said earlier, I can move far more money quicker into accounts on shore than is usually feasible off shore, with less tax implications as well.
There are advantages to US books, but if you're young, don't really care about winning money, and just want to bet for entertainment, or you don't win but tried real hard and say you are betting for entertainment to make yourself feel better, it doesn't matter where you play.
But if you are established, or up and coming, then build a business like I say, and you will be fine in the US books.
Has anyone every negotiated a better price with a book? Any legit pro bettors here?
I got a text form a poster asking what the sharp US books were. In my video I said books that won't limit on major sports, but there's more to it.
In the text I said I consider it a sharp book if the line hanging is +9 (-125) and the book manager knows I'll take -8.5 (-110) because I went over his lines with him after they came out.
He goes to his rolodex, finds a client who will take +8.5 (-110) and then call me to book the bet. The market may or may not ever see a trade go off at 8.5 (probably will, but the line will move back). The +9 (-125) still hangs, while we have traded 8.5.
That's a sharp book.
See why I am not concerned with DK taking over (though I wish it was a more player friendly Will Hill doin it)?
They will not affect my game at it's highest level and with more outs, we can only benefit.
Remember, and I've said this a million times, when the books are forced to compete for our buisiness, we win.
If DK pushes everyone out, then competition will slow or stop.
But the professionals will continue to win, and earlier posts tell you why.