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  • Doug tushyterror
    SBR MVP
    • 07-03-12
    • 4172

    #1
    Do I have a case with these 2 bets that were graded a loss & push?



    I bet Essential Q. top 3 so if Med. Spirit gets DQd wouldn't EQ get bumped up from 4th to 3rd?

    As for tennis I get the ret. rule for player completed match bets but since I bet the set handicap (+1.5), shouldn't it automatically be graded a winner if my player wins any set.
  • funnyb25
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 07-09-09
    • 39663

    #2
    Originally posted by Doug tushyterror



    I bet Essential Q. top 3 so if Med. Spirit gets DQd wouldn't EQ get bumped up from 4th to 3rd?

    As for tennis I get the ret. rule for player completed match bets but since I bet the set handicap (+1.5), shouldn't it automatically be graded a winner if my player wins the 1st set.
    They won't go back a regrade horse wages on a medical violation dq. That shit will stand as a loss. No clue about your tennis
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    • Unrivaled
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-24-11
      • 6685

      #3
      The tennis one would be considered void at my book.
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      • Doug tushyterror
        SBR MVP
        • 07-03-12
        • 4172

        #4
        Originally posted by funnyb25
        They won't go back a regrade horse wages on a medical violation dq. That shit will stand as a loss. No clue about your tennis
        You're probably right but if the race results change there's no harm in asking them to take a look at it.
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        • Doug tushyterror
          SBR MVP
          • 07-03-12
          • 4172

          #5
          Originally posted by Unrivaled
          The tennis one would be considered void at my book.
          To me that makes no sense, which ever player I take +1.5 sets & it goes to a 3rd set should automatically be graded a winner. Just seems like once the player did enough to win or lose the bet regardless of retirement there's no reason to void it.
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82854

            #6
            Check your ticket. There should be fine print saying all bets are graded final after the race is finished and before the next race starts.
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            • Doug tushyterror
              SBR MVP
              • 07-03-12
              • 4172

              #7
              Originally posted by pavyracer
              Check your ticket. There should be fine print saying all bets are graded final after the race is finished and before the next race starts.
              Just says the game start on the ticker & BMs HR Rules don't say anything about bets being graded before the next race.
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              • funnyb25
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 07-09-09
                • 39663

                #8
                You may have a good case on the tennis wager. Your horse one is dead though. Here are the rules for tennis from bookmaker. Weird they don't give a spread example but should be the same...

                If one of the players withdraws, regardless of the current score, bets will have no action and stakes will be refunded.

                The exception is when the outcome of a market has already been determined. When betting on Total Games, for example: if the line on the total number of games has been set at over/under 22.5 and the match is suspended with the score 6-4, 6-3, 4-1 (24 games played), the market has gone over the total and will be graded accordingly, even if the match is suspended after this.
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                • BuckyOne
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-02-15
                  • 2728

                  #9
                  Your tennis sports book must be saying that any retirements on the full match are graded as if nothing ever happened at all. Kinda sucks but, wasn't there players taking a dive and the rules got changed? Couldn't trust whether there were injuries or not? Do not think it is consistent grading everywhere.
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                  • Four33
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 06-13-19
                    • 437

                    #10
                    Horse wager done Doug
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                    • Unrivaled
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-24-11
                      • 6685

                      #11
                      I have had many tennis bets push that should have lost or won.

                      It is what it is.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        You have no case on either bet. Horse races are official once parimutual payments are paid out on track regardless of DQs on future dates.
                        And tennis spreads and totals require matches to be completed. That one is no different than betting Over in a baseball game and having the game go Over but not completed, it is still a refund.
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                        • Doug tushyterror
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-03-12
                          • 4172

                          #13
                          Originally posted by funnyb25
                          You may have a good case on the tennis wager. Your horse one is dead though. Here are the rules for tennis from bookmaker. Weird they don't give a spread example but should be the same...

                          If one of the players withdraws, regardless of the current score, bets will have no action and stakes will be refunded.

                          The exception is when the outcome of a market has already been determined. When betting on Total Games, for example: if the line on the total number of games has been set at over/under 22.5 and the match is suspended with the score 6-4, 6-3, 4-1 (24 games played), the market has gone over the total and will be graded accordingly, even if the match is suspended after this.
                          Originally posted by BuckyOne
                          Your tennis sports book must be saying that any retirements on the full match are graded as if nothing ever happened at all. Kinda sucks but, wasn't there players taking a dive and the rules got changed? Couldn't trust whether there were injuries or not? Do not think it is consistent grading everywhere.
                          Originally posted by Four33
                          Horse wager done Doug
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          You have no case on either bet. Horse races are official once parimutual payments are paid out on track regardless of DQs on future dates.
                          And tennis spreads and totals require matches to be completed. That one is no different than betting Over in a baseball game and having the game go Over but not completed, it is still a refund.
                          Appreciate the input fellas, tennis bet is voided per the rules. Still gonna hold out hope if the race results get overturned but not exactly holding my breath.
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                          • asiagambler
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-23-17
                            • 6827

                            #14
                            Some European books would grade the tennis one a winner but I'm certain bookmaker house rules are entire match has to be completed for handicaps and totals so you have absolutely no case there
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                            • TheMetsSuck
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-14-12
                              • 6146

                              #15
                              For a guy that has lost a small yacht betting tennis these past few months, I find it mind boggling that you don’t know the rules. How dumb are you dougy? Match doesn’t finish, yet you should bet credit for a 1.5 set spread though? Funny stuff
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                              • USCPHILLYGUY
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-15-12
                                • 21746

                                #16
                                Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                For a guy that has lost a small yacht betting tennis these past few months, I find it mind boggling that you don’t know the rules. How dumb are you dougy? Match doesn’t finish, yet you should bet credit for a 1.5 set spread though? Funny stuff
                                He knows exactly what the rules are. That’s just Dougie being Dougie.

                                I hear your Governors going to change the rules for the Federal COVID Unemployment Program. Back to work for you
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                                • Doug tushyterror
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-03-12
                                  • 4172

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                  For a guy that has lost a small yacht betting tennis these past few months, I find it mind boggling that you don’t know the rules. How dumb are you dougy? Match doesn’t finish, yet you should bet credit for a 1.5 set spread though? Funny stuff
                                  How dumb am I bro? Let's see, you're down 2.25 units & I'm up over $15K after reloading $4K 2.5 wks ago. Apparently not as dumb as you as the figures would suggest. Congrats great guess on the Lakers, so what are you back to even now ?

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                                  • Doug tushyterror
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-03-12
                                    • 4172

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                    For a guy that has lost a small yacht betting tennis these past few months, I find it mind boggling that you don’t know the rules. How dumb are you dougy? Match doesn’t finish, yet you should bet credit for a 1.5 set spread though? Funny stuff
                                    Going by your rationale, if the match doesn't finish why would they allow this over to stand but not the set handicap since both of the outcomes are already decided. Got an answer for that genius?
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                                    • Jayvegas420
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 03-09-11
                                      • 28213

                                      #19
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                                      • Doug tushyterror
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-03-12
                                        • 4172

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                        Been watching your videos Jay, anyone ever tell you, you kind of look like a slightly banged up Josh Brolin...highly entertaining
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                                        • pologq
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-07-12
                                          • 19899

                                          #21
                                          the horse racing debacle that is the Kentucky Derby is a pure example of the old fcuk you to bettors
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65752

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Four33
                                            Horse wager done Doug
                                            This.
                                            I had a similar problem with a DQ a few years back.
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                                            • chargers4222
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-16-10
                                              • 4702

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Doug tushyterror
                                              Going by your rationale, if the match doesn't finish why would they allow this over to stand but not the set handicap since both of the outcomes are already decided. Got an answer for that genius?
                                              That's just how it is. Book isn't gonna do you any favors. If you had Delbonis then you wouldn't make a peep about it.
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                                              • Doug tushyterror
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-03-12
                                                • 4172

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by chargers4222
                                                That's just how it is. Book isn't gonna do you any favors. If you had Delbonis then you wouldn't make a peep about it.
                                                Trust me when I tell you, I'm not really complaining but just arguing about the principle of the rule. I don't hit this parlay without the ret. rule but like the rule states, if the market's been determined the bet should stand.

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                                                • Jayvegas420
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-09-11
                                                  • 28213

                                                  #25
                                                  I gotta ask....and this is important


                                                  Josh from No Country for Old Men
                                                  or
                                                  Josh from Goonies?
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                                                  • dmm
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-03-20
                                                    • 1164

                                                    #26
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                                                    • TheMetsSuck
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-14-12
                                                      • 6146

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Doug tushyterror
                                                      How dumb am I bro? Let's see, you're down 2.25 units & I'm up over $15K after reloading $4K 2.5 wks ago. Apparently not as dumb as you as the figures would suggest. Congrats great guess on the Lakers, so what are you back to even now ?

                                                      Seems like you’d be broke reloading again if you didn’t hit a freak 10 teamer. Can always rely on those and if you lose take a few more stacks of ziti from the ex and try again.
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                                                      • dmm
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-03-20
                                                        • 1164

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                                        take a few more stacks of ziti from the ex and try again.
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                                                        • Doug tushyterror
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-03-12
                                                          • 4172

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by dmm
                                                          Hey everybody, it's the resident SBR stalker cuck yet again replying to people's responses with an emoji.
                                                          dmm=don't marry momma (this virgin's daily reminder to himself) as well as his college grad. pic
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                                                          • Doug tushyterror
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-03-12
                                                            • 4172

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                                            Seems like you’d be broke reloading again if you didn’t hit a freak 10 teamer. Can always rely on those and if you lose take a few more stacks of ziti from the ex and try again.
                                                            Guess I must've had a freaky couple of wks with all these winning parlays.Let me guess, I probably bet a whole bunch of them that lose & only post the ones that win. Only logical exclamation, huh?
                                                            Nope that's not it, all told I made 3 other parlays that lost $300 combined which I have no problem posting. Face it shit stain, I'm just better at this than you.

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                                                            • TheMetsSuck
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-14-12
                                                              • 6146

                                                              #31
                                                              You are the biggest loser on this site pal.. You hit one lucky parlay thanks to Tiafoe retiring and all of a sudden you are good? Didn’t you lose every cent you had on zaga? Guess you stole some more cash to attempt a few more Hail Mary plays. You’ll have blown it all by the end of the week anyway bc you have no discipline. Good luck though. Act like you’ve won a bet before and we aren’t having this convo...
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                                                              • dmm
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-03-20
                                                                • 1164

                                                                #32
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                                                                • Doug tushyterror
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-03-12
                                                                  • 4172

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                                                  I gotta ask....and this is important


                                                                  Josh from No Country for Old Men
                                                                  or
                                                                  Josh from Goonies?
                                                                  NCFOM
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                                                                  • stake1
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-19-18
                                                                    • 18116

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Please update, because I have never seen a horses bet getting changed after the race
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                                                                    • Doug tushyterror
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-03-12
                                                                      • 4172

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by stake1
                                                                      Please update, because I have never seen a horses bet getting changed after the race
                                                                      Obviously a lost cause. After reading this no reason to pursue it any further.
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