If you don't take the saints in week one you SHOULD quit gambling

**RavensFan2k3** · 09-13-20, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Joe Sharp

Can't tell if this is a reverse jinx or real bet

Too aggressive, seems sarcastic

Can’t tell with the jokers on this site. Not too many real betters here

**JayDr3am** · 09-13-20, 10:11 AM

yeah laker it seems like you want some of these turds to go pound saints so you can get a better number on buccs

**JIBBBY** · 09-13-20, 10:12 AM

Bucs are loaded, Brady has Gronk, good OL to protect, good defense.. Wouldn't be surprised if the Bucs win the game. No heavy crowd noise either in the Dome so home field doesn't matter really..

Tom Brady went to the Bucs for a reason because the team is stacked with talent. We'll see though?

**Mr KLC** · 09-13-20, 10:15 AM

Taking the Dolphins +7 for the same reason. Newton hasn't played in game situations with his guys yet.

**JIBBBY** · 09-13-20, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

Taking the Dolphins +7 for the same reason. Newton hasn't played in game situations with his guys yet.

I'm trying the Fins on the ML myself. I think they have a shot to win the game.. Browns as well.. Value it to good on the ML on those 2 games IMO..

**gauchojake** · 09-13-20, 10:42 AM

Bucs +154

DEAL

**stevenash** · 09-13-20, 01:54 PM

i'm accused of being a computer and math geek, and rightfully so because I am a geek.
I'm also a former jock so I know sports too.

When I start to break down any NFL game I'll look each teams 1) offense 2) defense 3) special teams.
Bill Parcells taught us all many years ago if you win two out of those three you usually win the game.
Parcells knows more NFL than all of combined, and if you think about that he is right, time as proven that.

Saints check 2 out of those 3 boxes, if not all three.

One more thing I learned about the NFL a long time ago.
And you don't need an MIT advanced degree to understand this very simple but very important stat.

It's been proven spanning the past two decades, teams that have an over .500 won loss record will beat an opponent with a sub .500 won loss record.
Proven! That is a 64 percent of the time the team with a winning record will beat the team with a losing record.

I have stopped handicapping this game after all the boxes that needed to check off for me all were in favor of the Saints.

Now nothing is sports is a dead bolt lock, but a Saints bet here is a solid bet here.
It could go down, but that why they call it gambling.

I got the Saints in a two team money line parlay.

**gauchojake** · 09-13-20, 01:56 PM

TOMPA BAY BAYYYYYYYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE

**lakerboy** · 09-13-20, 02:21 PM

Just for the record we are on the saints

**stevenash** · 09-13-20, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by gauchojake

TOMPA BAY BAYYYYYYYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE

I am not a Brady fan boy, hardly but I would not mind seeing his new team win.
But I bet with my head and not my heart.

The Bucs have had one winning season in the past nine seasons.
Barely, when they won 9 game a few years ago.
Saints the past three seasons have gone 13 and 3 back to back and 11 and 5 three seasons ago.
The Saints have more games the past three seasons that the Bucs have won in the past seven. (almost)

Now when exactly did the Bucs become the winning team and the Saints become the perennial 6 and 10 team?
The Bucs made some serious upgrades and have vastly improved with Brady, but they don't go from the basement to the ceiling overnight,
It would not shock me to see the Bucs snag a wild card, but let's not get carried away here.
Saint are still the better team, and like I said before they are not a dead bolt lock to win today, but I do like their chances,

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 09-13-20, 02:36 PM

Will Brees have a noodle arm?

Will Brees throw potatoes with that noodle arm?

Probably

Saints will probably still win regardless

No action on this battle of the grandpa QBs game for me though

**hawkwind** · 09-13-20, 02:45 PM

OK

**gauchojake** · 09-13-20, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

I am not a Brady fan boy, hardly but I would not mind seeing his new team win.
But I bet with my head and not my heart.

The Bucs have had one winning season in the past nine seasons.
Barely, when they won 9 game a few years ago.
Saints the past three seasons have gone 13 and 3 back to back and 11 and 5 three seasons ago.
The Saints have more games the past three seasons that the Bucs have won in the past seven. (almost)

Now when exactly did the Bucs become the winning team and the Saints become the perennial 6 and 10 team?
The Bucs made some serious upgrades and have vastly improved with Brady, but they don't go from the basement to the ceiling overnight,
It would not shock me to see the Bucs snag a wild card, but let's not get carried away here.
Saint are still the better team, and like I said before they are not a dead bolt lock to win today, but I do like their chances,

I am taking a shot with the BOL promo which does include ML bets. Honestly don't know who will win but I feel like TB has decent shot at winning

**JayDr3am** · 09-13-20, 03:37 PM

**Fred The Hammer** · 09-13-20, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

I am not a Brady fan boy, hardly but I would not mind seeing his new team win.
But I bet with my head and not my heart.

The Bucs have had one winning season in the past nine seasons.
Barely, when they won 9 game a few years ago.
Saints the past three seasons have gone 13 and 3 back to back and 11 and 5 three seasons ago.
The Saints have more games the past three seasons that the Bucs have won in the past seven. (almost)

Now when exactly did the Bucs become the winning team and the Saints become the perennial 6 and 10 team?
The Bucs made some serious upgrades and have vastly improved with Brady, but they don't go from the basement to the ceiling overnight,
It would not shock me to see the Bucs snag a wild card, but let's not get carried away here.
Saint are still the better team, and like I said before they are not a dead bolt lock to win today, but I do like their chances,

When Brady chose them. Where was Denver before PM got there? KC was nothing back in the day before Montana got there. Its not just Brady's production, its the confidence and leadership that he gives the whole team. Not to mention Brees got beat by Goff & Kirk suckass Cousins in his last 2 playoff games. He's at the normal age of serious regression. Maybe he needs to eat grass and bang supermodels like Brady, but to my eye he looks closer to the end.

**lakerboy** · 09-13-20, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by Fred The Hammer

When Brady chose them. Where was Denver before PM got there? KC was nothing back in the day before Montana got there. Its not just Brady's production, its the confidence and leadership that he gives the whole team. Not to mention Brees got beat by Goff & Kirk suckass Cousins in his last 2 playoff games. He's at the normal age of serious regression. Maybe he needs to eat grass and bang supermodels like Brady, but to my eye he looks closer to the end.

The chiefs were good before montana came. Go and check. They ran into some great buffalo teams.

**Fred The Hammer** · 09-13-20, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

The chiefs were good before montana came. Go and check. They ran into some great buffalo teams.

KC was 10-6 the 2 years before Montana. Give you that one, but my point still stands. Great QB is everything in the NFL

**lakerboy** · 09-13-20, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by JayDr3am

Grab another bag

**SEAHAWKHARRY** · 09-13-20, 04:14 PM

Liking the vibe

**KVB** · 09-13-20, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo

Will Brees have a noodle arm?...

He'd probably last a few rounds with Jimmy Flick as Nate Smith showed Flick struggles to submit noodle arms.

**Fred The Hammer** · 09-13-20, 04:17 PM

That PI showed Brees decline though....he had no meat on the throw and it sailed into double coverage. Hell the one DB was waiting on the ball, but NO got lucky because the other guy grabbed him for some reason. Tampa's growing pains vs the Saints decline imo. Tampa could definitely be the better team by November. NO can only knock on the door and choke so many times before things go south

**KVB** · 09-13-20, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

The chiefs were good before montana came. Go and check. They ran into some great buffalo teams.

Originally posted by Fred The Hammer

KC was 10-6 the 2 years before Montana. Give you that one, but my point still stands. Great QB is everything in the NFL

Morono take note.

Fred the Hammer knows how to have a cordial discussion about sports.

I wonder how this conversation would have gone if it were Morono instead of Fred.

**Fred The Hammer** · 09-13-20, 04:23 PM

Put my $$ where my mouth is. Took Tampa Live +4.5

**lakerboy** · 09-13-20, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Fred The Hammer

Put my $$ where my mouth is. Took Tampa Live +4.5

Hopefully you will win. I just need the saints by 4

**homerbush** · 09-13-20, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Books give away free money all year long.

Free money was on coastal Carolina last night one of worst lines they put out.

**KVB** · 09-13-20, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by homerbush

Free money was on coastal Carolina last night one of worst lines they put out.

Tremendous week 1 play for us bettors that's for sure.

If only we had one of those every week and in this Kung Flu era of a limited rotation we actually just might.

**Fred The Hammer** · 09-13-20, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by homerbush

Free money was on coastal Carolina last night one of worst lines they put out.

Yeah I hit Coastal, but I got Ark State +17 and +600 live! Sun Belt beat the B12 3 straight!

This one.....Goat coming back from 24-7 in his first game. Sounds about right!

**Fred The Hammer** · 09-13-20, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Hopefully you will win. I just need the saints by 4

Thanks GL to you too!

**SBR_Guest_Pro** · 09-13-20, 05:46 PM

saints easy at -4

**stevenash** · 09-13-20, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Fred The Hammer

KC was 10-6 the 2 years before Montana. Give you that one, but my point still stands. Great QB is everything in the NFL

This true, the most important position in the game.

I say the Bucs are 2 to 3 games won better with Brady at QB instead of Winston and I can see the Bucs maybe in the post season as a wild card but my point is just this, it is true with all the additions and upgrades the Bucs have made themselves a better than average team.
Not a super team, not an elite team, a team that is so much better than what they were

**homerbush** · 09-13-20, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Fred The Hammer

Yeah I hit Coastal, but I got Ark State +17 and +600 live! Sun Belt beat the B12 3 straight!

This one.....Goat coming back from 24-7 in his first game. Sounds about right!

I had a live ml parlay with ark st Louisiana and g-tech later and it didn’t take I had to settle for ark st and g tech ml parlay. Still decent.

**PAULYPOKER** · 09-13-20, 05:52 PM

I was wondering why the refs were wrapping up the Ain'ts
in a pretty bowtie for Brady to be Brady,Lol........

**homerbush** · 09-13-20, 05:52 PM

Kind of wish I took TB +800 live... went against own advice but I already had a couple parlays with TB +3.5 didn’t want to keep adding on.

**PAULYPOKER** · 09-13-20, 05:56 PM

Turns out the Forum Resident Drunken Mush is the sole reason why the Ain'ts are imploding...

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 09-13-20, 06:09 PM

Laker, how close were u to joining Payton's staff?