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  • onthewhat
    Restricted User
    • 05-14-08
    • 15411

    #1
    Is Bet Phoenix in trouble?
    Called me begging for a deposit within 15 mins of making an account

    I don't give business to solicitors
  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #2
    Are you serious?
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    • CaneDawg
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-25-08
      • 6256

      #3
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      • Nicky Santoro
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-08-08
        • 16103

        #4
        i had like 20k tied up there for the last 3 yrs and i couldn't get it out.. i was being stroked each day.. they would not do any book transfers, no FEDEX, and were giving me like 800 every 3 months.. i was going nuts.. i thought for sure i was getting stiffed.. i just kept getting the runaround.. i was running to post office every 3 months to pick up 800$ and paid 65$ fee..i hated it. and i couldn't take the lying.. each week, lie lie lie.. they would tell me monday they are sending 800$ and monday came, no money.. 3 weeks later, still no money..

        then finally with 5k left in my acct 2 months ago, i asked them if i can make a book transfer and they said YES..i screamed..wooohooo... they took the 5k and instantly sent it to matchy...

        i was so happy.. finally i got my money out of that book. i hated it cause they always changed the line on me on every bet i submitted..

        now that they finally do book to book transfers, IF they don't change the line on me, i'd post up there again..
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        • pavyracer
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-12-07
          • 82907

          #5
          Aren't you the one soliciting their business by opening an account with them without being solicited by them? And who in their mind gives their phone number to a book that didn't solicit them to begin with?
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          • RJbetphoenix
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-07-09
            • 170

            #6
            "i had like 20k tied up there for the last 3 yrs and i couldn't get it out.. i was being stroked each day.. they would not do any book transfers, no FEDEX, and were giving me like 800 every 3 months.. i was going nuts.. i thought for sure i was getting stiffed.. i just kept getting the runaround.. i was running to post office every 3 months to pick up 800$ and paid 65$ fee..i hated it. and i couldn't take the lying.. each week, lie lie lie.. they would tell me monday they are sending 800$ and monday came, no money.. 3 weeks later, still no money.." a book transfer and they said YES..i screamed..wooohooo... they took the 5k and instantly sent it to matchy..."

            You had money in your account before the business was even open? This makes no sense. Please keep the information factual.

            We do follow up on all member registrations to make sure we are doing all we can to assist.
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            • SSLP
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-29-08
              • 5232

              #7
              98% of US facing books do calling campaigns this time of the year . I dont think its fair to bad mouth a book just because they called you to offer a signup bonus. I mean you signed up on your own .. unless you were not planning on depositing I wouldnt mind someone calling me with a nice little offer to dump a few hundred in there.

              Betpphoenix is a great book along with some other names .

              Onner pal they are good use them
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              • Justin7
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-31-06
                • 8577

                #8
                RJ,

                When did you guys open for business?

                And more importantly, when will you start taking book-to-book transfers from other "A" books? I would like to play with you guys, but my credit cards keep getting shut down whenever I try to deposit at BP.
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                • durito
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-03-06
                  • 13173

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Justin7
                  RJ,

                  When did you guys open for business?

                  And more importantly, when will you start taking book-to-book transfers from other "A" books? I would like to play with you guys, but my credit cards keep getting shut down whenever I try to deposit at BP.
                  they take transfers from matchbook


                  i love how nicky was playing there before they even existed. he is confusing betmania which phoenix bailed out and thus bailed him out. mania by the way was rated D.
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Justin7
                    RJ,

                    When did you guys open for business?

                    And more importantly, when will you start taking book-to-book transfers from other "A" books? I would like to play with you guys, but my credit cards keep getting shut down whenever I try to deposit at BP.
                    They take W.U. if not mistaken.

                    By the way, that was a funny post by Nicky.........3 YEARS, LMFAO!
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                    • ryanspeer2001
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-30-08
                      • 3149

                      #11
                      I don't know quite enough about the book business to gauge whether they are hurting as a book but I have never had a problem at all with them for anything. Payouts within 7 hours. Superb customer service from Nitaly when he was there, and now Charles. Solid book.
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                      • Bread
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-16-08
                        • 23726

                        #12
                        I've had only good experiences with Phoenix.
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                        • Nicky Santoro
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-08-08
                          • 16103

                          #13
                          i'm talking about betmania.... isn't it the same book?
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                          • Justin7
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-31-06
                            • 8577

                            #14
                            They are two different books (or at least they used to be).
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                            • flyingillini
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 41219

                              #15
                              Just because you signed up at a book and submitted your information doesn't mean for anyone to get upset about a phone call. I would expect a call after signing up with them.
                              המוסד‎
                              המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                              • wtf
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-22-08
                                • 12983

                                #16
                                all the paid posters rushing to the defense of one of their advertisers, well done!
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                                • durito
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-03-06
                                  • 13173

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                  i'm talking about betmania.... isn't it the same book?
                                  now they are related. betphoenix bailed them out, you should be singing their praises, had they not you'd have gotten nothing
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                                  • Nicky Santoro
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-08-08
                                    • 16103

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by durito
                                    now they are related. betphoenix bailed them out, you should be singing their praises, had they not you'd have gotten nothing
                                    that's great to know..durito, i tell you man, it was 3 yrs of torture.. 3 yrs of lying each day to me.. they made me go to post office 3 times with a fake control # and the girl would tell me this # don't exist.. it was a nightmare.. they stroked me like no other book ever stroked me in my offshore career. and the lies.. one after the other..

                                    hey RJ,

                                    i want to play at betphoenix.. can you guarantee me you won't change the line on me, and also give me a 10 cent line, or even a progressive line, big limits online, and free transfers back and forth with matchbook and oh yeah, i want a bonus too.. rj, give me all this and my money is there in 15 minutes.
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                                    • smitch124
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-19-08
                                      • 12566

                                      #19
                                      All my dealings with BetPhoenix have been great with respect to all aspects of their service

                                      thanks,

                                      smitch (paid shill #256)
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                                      • JoshW
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 3431

                                        #20
                                        Nice to see a BS thread actually turn into something informative to players.

                                        You signed up for the book and they actually called you to figure out how you could make a deposit. SHOCKING
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                                        • RJbetphoenix
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 01-07-09
                                          • 170

                                          #21
                                          Sure...you can have it all Nicky. 10 cents, big bonus, free transfers, big limits, steam. Sounds like a win-win.

                                          We wont move anything on you, and you can have 10% bonus up to $500 FP and 10 cent lines if you are really interested.


                                          Justin,

                                          We added a few new CC units. We may be able to run your plastic now.

                                          Thanks,

                                          Richard
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                                          • Nicky Santoro
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-08-08
                                            • 16103

                                            #22
                                            just a little advice to Betphoenix..

                                            do NOT call onner and try to get his business.. it will be the biggest mistake of your lives.. Onner is a professional gambler.. he will singlehandedly bankrupt you guys.. and don't even think of booking his national televised baseball games.. he never loses those games.. he is an espn nat'l tv game expert.. he is 19-2 this year.. booking his bets is like burning money.. you might as well just give this money to charity, cause you will lose it....so back off this guy unless you want to lose money.. he is a professional gambler..
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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82907

                                              #23
                                              He is a 20 year old professional twat Nicky.
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                                              • Nicky Santoro
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 04-08-08
                                                • 16103

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RJbetphoenix
                                                Sure...you can have it all Nicky. 10 cents, big bonus, free transfers, big limits, steam. Sounds like a win-win.

                                                We wont move anything on you, and you can have 10% bonus up to $500 FP and 10 cent lines if you are really interested.

                                                richard buddy, i had no idea that was you.. richie boy, come on man, you can do better than a 10% fp.. that's like a 4.5% cash bonus... richie, make it a 10% cash bonus instead and i will send the $$ now.. come on richie, be a nice guy. .times are tough...it'll be there in 5 minutes..

                                                can i send it from matchy now?
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                                                • durito
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                  • 13173

                                                  #25
                                                  surely you can figure out how to convert a free play at better than 45%
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                                                  • Nicky Santoro
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-08-08
                                                    • 16103

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by durito
                                                    surely you can figure out how to convert a free play at better than 45%
                                                    duh...


                                                    richie, i want a 10% cash.. where are you.. are we on..
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                                                    • durito
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                      • 13173

                                                      #27
                                                      they will give you 50% free play 2,500 max if you want -110/-110
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                                                      • Nicky Santoro
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 04-08-08
                                                        • 16103

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by durito
                                                        they will give you 50% free play 2,500 max if you want -110/-110


                                                        how come i was only offered 10% fp, 500 max??

                                                        how do i get this offer?

                                                        richie, you have some explaining to do.. i want this offer here.
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                                                        • ABEHONEST
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-27-09
                                                          • 9470

                                                          #29
                                                          Well,I got lost in the shuffle ?
                                                          Who is the guilty Book?
                                                          Is it Phoenix,or Betmania,or both ?
                                                          Nicky ?
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                                                          • durito
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-03-06
                                                            • 13173

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Nicky Santoro


                                                            how come i was only offered 10% fp, 500 max??

                                                            how do i get this offer?

                                                            richie, you have some explaining to do.. i want this offer here.

                                                            he offered you -105/-105

                                                            they have two packages: big bonus at -110/-110, small bonus and -105/-105
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                                                            • Nicky Santoro
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 04-08-08
                                                              • 16103

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                              Well,I got lost in the shuffle ?
                                                              Who is the guilty Book?
                                                              Is it Phoenix,or Betmania,or both ?
                                                              Nicky ?
                                                              no book is guilty..betmania was bought out by betphoenix.. betphoenix is good.. but they are bugging onner and onner is not one bit happy about this situation..
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                                                              • Nicky Santoro
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-08-08
                                                                • 16103

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by durito
                                                                he offered you -105/-105

                                                                they have two packages: big bonus at -110/-110, small bonus and -105/-105
                                                                man, i will take your option better.. it's a big diff in bonus.. huge diff.. i will just not bet as many games there..

                                                                can i bet big dogs with my FP, or is it only -110 games?
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                                                                • durito
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                                  • 13173

                                                                  #33
                                                                  up to +200
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                                                                  • durito
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                                    • 13173

                                                                    #34
                                                                    actually they appear to offer something even better:

                                                                    Early Bird Special Promotion (Expires: August 23rd, 2009)
                                                                    bp-index-bonuses2

                                                                    * 40% Bonus: $500 - $999 : 20% cash bonus/ 20% free play bonus - 7x rollover, no hold
                                                                    * 50% Bonus: $1000 - $2499 : 25% cash bonus/ 25% free play bonus - 9x rollover, no hold
                                                                    * 60% Bonus: $2500 - $10000 : 30% cash bonus/ 30% free play bonus -11x rollover, no hold
                                                                    * Applies to 10% juice lines only.
                                                                    * Rollover count will start with the first game of the NFL Regular season (Scheduled on, September 10)
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                                                                    • RJbetphoenix
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 01-07-09
                                                                      • 170

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Come on Nicky...transfer 1 million over to test the waters.
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