I am now a democrat, please join me

[MainEventOrBust]

Thanks for the chain letter. How many forums do I have to post it in to avoid seven years of bad luck?

[reno cool]

About the only difference between your republicans and your democrats is the demos tax and spend, and the repubs just spend.

Both now start wars (look it up, until Bushie the first only demos started wars.).

Both want to control your life (W really got this going)
Both have narrow-minded large factions that drive the agenda (demos = green crazies who think Global warming is real in spite of all the info to the contrary, Repubs = Religious zealots who would like to control everything even down to allowed sex positions with your wife)

I love America, but you guys have gone crazy. Neither of your parties are worth a damn.

yes, and it's been this way for a long time. Serves as a distraction to keep people occupied and taking trivial sides against one another. Sort of like a football game really.

[bettilimbroke999]

You're not a democrat even though you believe in everything they have in mind and support every single thing they do and you call other people idiots?

Completely misread my statement, read the words immediately before and after that

[andywend]

WTF, here is a copy and paste I thought you would enjoy:

I have to admit it. The Democrats were right! ...


They told me if I voted for McCain, ... the nation's Hope would deteriorate, and
sure enough there has been a 20 point drop in the Consumer Confidence Index
since the election, reaching a lower point than any time during the Bush
administration.
They told me if I voted for McCain, ...the US would become more deeply embroiled
in the Middle East, and sure enough tens of thousands of additional troops are
scheduled to be deployed into Afghanistan.
They told me if I voted for McCain, ...that the economy would get worse and sure
enough unemployment is approaching 10% and the new stimulus packages
implemented recently have sent the stock market lower than at any time since 9-11.
They told me if I voted for McCain, ...we would see more "crooks" in high ranking
positions in Federal government and sure enough, several recent cabinet nominees
and Senate appointments revealed resumes of scandal, bribery and tax fraud.
They told me if I voted for McCain, ... we would see more "Pork at the trough" in
Federal government and sure enough, 17,500 "Pork Bills" showed up in Congress
in the past three weeks...
They told me if I voted for McCain, ...we would see more deficit spending in DC
and sure enough, Obama has spent more in 30 days than all other Presidents
together in the history of the good ole USA ....
Well I ignored the democrats in November and voted for McCain.
And they were right... All of their predictions have come true.

[reno cool]

You're not a democrat even though you believe in everything they have in mind and support every single thing they do and you call other people idiots?

re-read the post you're referring to

[reno cool]

is the stock market down? good. It needs to come down. As a gambler I see no benefit to higher stock prices.

[bettilimbroke999]

Are you guys serious? Are you seriously blaming Obama for the economy and high unemployment after being President for 6 months? What is he God? Geez, the only legitimate criticism one could make against Obama so far is his socialized health care plan is ridiculous and a terrible idea but that hasn't even been passed yet

I blame Obama for everything wrong in the world! Everything wrong in the world would've been corrected by now if McCain was President

[DwightShrute]

Are you guys serious? Are you seriously blaming Obama for the economy and high unemployment after being President for 6 months? What is he God?

A. He said if he spent all these trillions we would not get high unemployment

B. recessions have been here before and will happen again. This is only an excuse or smoke screen for him to socialize the USA. We are fooled but some obviously are.

C. He and many do believe he is God

[wtf]

good C&P andy, thanks

i guess i should have clearly stipulated that in my original post, but those haters would have found ANYTHING to attack the truth with more fiction

for dwight D. NO MORE LOBBYISTS, didnt he constantly say that while on the stump?

[DwightShrute]

yes he did, also no more pork and full disclosure. Wait till the new taxes come

[bettilimbroke999]

Dwight do you honestly believe anything would be better if McCain were President, other than his crazy warmongering ass starting WW3 he had absolutely no ideas for improving the situation this country is in, we had 8 years of retarded Bush doing nothing but flushing us down the comode now we can have 4 years of some other retard, nothing changes

[DwightShrute]

compared to Obama? Maybe the scarecrow comment does have some validity

Name one thing in 6 months Obama has done well?

[MainEventOrBust]

Are you guys serious? Are you seriously blaming Obama for the economy and high unemployment after being President for 6 months?

What does *any* president have to do with the economy? All the government can do is control the Federal Reserve, Taxation, and the Treasury. The rest is up to the entrepreneurs.

[DwightShrute]

unless the government takes over

Hey, isnt that happening now

[bettilimbroke999]

I'm just as unimpressed with Obama as you are but fuk I can't blame him for not curing the Great Depression we're in in 6 months, I am very much against his social health care plan, I believe the negatives far outweigh the positives, I believe it's unsustainable and going to lead to us standing in line for 12 hours when I've got appendicitis or something behind a bunch of ******s tryin to get another dose of hydros "on the house"

BUT I'm highly critical of GWB as well, I dont think he was a good President, I personally believe there shoulde be more options for President, you've basically got the rich automatically right, the poor automatically left and everybody else stuck choosing the lesser of two evils

[DwightShrute]

I give up

[lakerboy]

I give up

im dissapointed in you son bush

[Flying Dutchman]

How can any of you "gamblers" like anything Republican after the betting bills these guys passed on you? Are you skitzo? At least the Demos might let you do it and then tax you to death.

[bettilimbroke999]

I could care less if Obama doubles the tax on the rich, wont hurt me any, tax Bill Gates til he has to put an ad in the paper for a roommate in his 100 million dollar house for all I care, nobody on earth should have that much money anyway

[DwightShrute]

I could care less if Obama doubles the tax on the rich, wont hurt me any, tax Bill Gates til he has to put an ad in the paper for a roommate in his 100 million dollar house for all I care, nobody on earth should have that much money anyway

bettilimbroke, why the hell do you care what someone makes? you sound like Obama.

OK what is the maximum should be able to earn? You are so ignorant and frankly sound like a communist. You think that Gates doesn't spend any $$ on charities? He employs thousands of people which pay thousands in taxes and spend thousand in the community which supports local businesses which also then pay taxes .........

bettilimbroke, What is the most someone should be able to win in a sportsbook? Or in Las Vegas? unfukingbelievable! What an arrogant shit!


There are many countries that have been around for hundreds of years and in only 200 years or so, the USA is the envy of most. The USA has spread democracy and freedom throughout the world. The success of the USA is mainly due to the freedoms that its citizens have from government interference and thus are allowed to flourish and prosper through out time.

I Know what you want. You want equality. You have 2 salespeople, you want Dipshit Joe, a salesman who does the bare minimum, floats through life and contributes nothing to society to have and be the same as Donna who educated herself, works twice as hard as Joe Dipshit, sells 10X what Joe sells, you would think it's right for Joe and Donna make the same salary and get all the governemnt perks. The more Joe Dipshits that the government creates the better and will continue to vote for the government that takes care of them.

I want people to make whatever they can. Hard work is what separates the average from the successful.

The great thing about America, is there is no limits as to what you can do and achieve and earn and etc etc, and you should be fuking ashamed to think that you are so fuking better than everyone else and that you have the nerve to say how much someone can make and what is too much. Too bad you never lived in the Solviet Union in the 60's. Then you would realize why idiotic moron statements like yours hit the nerves of free minded common sense people who aren't sheeps like you obviously are.

I am convinced now that Obama doesn't want to economy to recover and thus is interfering in it's recovery. The more idiots who still think he is the messiah and the longer these morons keep blaming Bush for this recession, the more they will look to Obama for guidance and help. Thus more likely will vote for him again. I am sure, Obama will attempt to take credit when the economy recovers, only fools with give him credit.

Be real careful what you wish for, you might actually get it!

[Bread]

Let's get my little buddy wtf his first ever 3-page thread! This has to be very exciting for him!

[reno cool]

Dwight,
you ignorant ****. Gates will be ok.
can't say the same for some poor shmo that can't afford the surgery he needs.

I propose we take Gates money and pay Joe and Donna to sit at home and stare at the ceiling. The last thing we need is more shit peddling salesmen

[DwightShrute]

Dwight,
you ignorant ****. Gates will be ok.
can't say the same for some poor shmo that can't afford the surgery he needs.

I propose we take Gates money and pay Joe and Donna to sit at home and stare at the ceiling. The last thing we need is more shit peddling salesmen

Reno, you vastly superior intelligent human being . I am not opposed to tweeking the health care system. I believe the government has a role to play in society and I believe that if someone needs surgery like you said, he should get it. I just don't want the government making the decision.

Yes, how stupid can I be? We all should bow down to Obama. He knows best. He will provide for all of us. Power to the government! Hail Obama! I love it!

No need for any salesmen ever again. Obama will decide what we need, the price and who can get it. Maybe you are onto something.

On currency, we can change it to read .. In Obama We Trust! Kinda catchy if you ask me.

[reno cool]

Obama hardly matters. Who here is praising him? Not me, not B. What we oppose is the implication that Bush or the Republicans are good because Obama is bad.

google my twitternice

[DrStale]

DrStale, is it really possible to be in favor of social programs (socially liberal) and still be fiscally conservative?

Is there really any such thing as being fiscally liberal?

I am strongly pro choice and in favor of gay marriage, both of which would not be defined as social programs.

Social programming is necessary but it needs to be regulated so that it can be the most effective. I'm not into throwing a ton of money at a problem, but using the money effectively. After working for schools, non-profit organizations and local government I am well aware of the shortcomings many social programs have.

[andywend]

I could care less if Obama doubles the tax on the rich, wont hurt me any, tax Bill Gates til he has to put an ad in the paper for a roommate in his 100 million dollar house for all I care, nobody on earth should have that much money anyway

This statement is typical of the mindset of the liberal democrat.

By the way, Obama could raise the top tax bracket to 99% and it wouldn't make one bit of difference to Bill Gates. As a matter of fact, Gates would strongly support the tax increase because the vast majority of his wealth has ALREADY BEEN TAXED.

Watch how quickly elite liberal democrats like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett abandon the democratic party if the democrats figured out a way to tax the net worth of these people while they are still alive.

I'm sure you would support that as well.

[wtf]

hey bread, thanks for stopping by and weighing in

very thoughtful feedback, about what we would expect from you on this topic

[bettilimbroke999]

I dont really care, the current tax system is as fair as it gets if you're going to have a tax system, someone with no income is going to pay less or no taxes than someone with a fortune of income, but other than the roads I drive on and some emergency services the taxes the ultrarich pay don't help me anyway. I do think that there should be limits on the amount of individual wealth in this country to keep capitalism from becoming a complete black hole for the ultrarich that sucks the remaining 10% of wealth the other 90% of the country has

[DwightShrute]

I dont really care, the current tax system is as fair as it gets if you're going to have a tax system, someone with no income is going to pay less or no taxes than someone with a fortune of income, but other than the roads I drive on and some emergency services the taxes the ultrarich pay don't help me anyway. I do think that there should be limits on the amount of individual wealth in this country to keep capitalism from becoming a complete black hole for the ultrarich t hat sucks the remaining 10% of wealth theother 90% of the country has

Yes and you should be in charge of deciding what is the maximum someone can make.

Also, hire a tax cheat as your top tax guy wait, already been done.

Congrats to your first ever post which doesn't include GWB, Iraq, Hitler, druggie Rush, Anne Coulter.

[bettilimbroke999]

Republicans that aren't part of the top 1% of earners sure dont seem to have much problem with the top 1% having every cent in the nation, actually seem offended that I (as Dwight always bolds) would suggest enslaving the entire country is not a good thing

[DwightShrute]

Republicans that aren't part of the top 1% of earners sure dont seem to have much problem with the top 1% having every cent in the nation, actually seem offended that I (as Dwight always bolds) would suggest enslaving the entire country is not a good thing

[losturmarbles]

This site might aid in understanding between liberialism and the left/right wings. It's a confusion often seen here.

http://www.politicalcompass.org

http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008

This FAQ is especially relevant:

classic liberalism and modern liberalism are no where near the same ideology. and "neo-liberalism" isnt so neo anymore and would be inaccurate to call it such. most true classic liberals out there are disgusted by modern liberals. and generally when someone says "liberal" they are referring to the philosophy of the modern liberal.

many questions from the political test on that page are poorly worded, have false premises, or are biased in the way they are asked. also there is no indifferent response, just agree, disagree, and strongly agree, disagree.

i scored:



i shouldve probably been further down, more libertarian.


how about this:

World's Smallest Political Quiz
Take the Quiz now and find out where you fit on the political map!

http://www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html

[losturmarbles]

I dont really care, the current tax system is as fair as it gets ...

have to stop right there. you have proved over and over that you dont know what the fuk youre talking about.

[bettilimbroke999]

have to stop right there. you have proved over and over that you dont know what the fuk youre talking about.

Thank you for disagreeing without any reasoning behind it, you are a classic mindless Republican and have no clue what you're talking about, keep praying we'll eliminate income tax so Bill Gates can keep an extra couple billion and poor children can starve to death, gl2u, judging from the job Bush did itll be a long time before a Republican gets elected anyway

[losturmarbles]

andy-my man!

i know this is not a PC thing to say, but as long as women are allowed to vote it will always be a "beauty" contest

yes there are exceptions to the rule, but almost all women will pick the cuter guy

you think lincoln would have a chance with tv and women voting?

so you think male voters are informed and vote based on anything other than popularity and what empty promises are made to them?

it's not about it being a "PC" thing to say, it's about it being an ignorant thing to say. youre doing the republicans no favor with your weak and ignorant arguments.

and i'm much more concerned with ignorance in the ballot box than i am of stupid shit like this post.

btw, lincoln was a terrible president.