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  • Optional
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    • 06-10-10
    • 61702

    #106
    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
    the match im looking forward too is adelaide sydney i see goals in this game
    Le Fondre -110 to score

    Sydney/Ov2.5 +190 maybe
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    • 5mike5
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-21-11
      • 52036

      #107
      Opti is locked in right now.
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      • FootyPicks1
        SBR Sharp
        • 07-13-18
        • 297

        #108
        How is Sydney Even money, Adelaide have been shut out by, Perth at home, Victory away and Melbourne City at home, Sydney took 2 slaps in the face at home against Victory and Wellington recently but have bounced back well.... Or is the Over 2.5 at 1.8 the better play? personally love Sydney here.
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        • cincinnatikid513
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 11-23-17
          • 45360

          #109
          Originally posted by FootyPicks1
          How is Sydney Even money, Adelaide have been shut out by, Perth at home, Victory away and Melbourne City at home, Sydney took 2 slaps in the face at home against Victory and Wellington recently but have bounced back well.... Or is the Over 2.5 at 1.8 the better play? personally love Sydney here.
          adelaide been very good on road like the over this game maybe even adelaide steal a win 2-1
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #110
            Checking in here seems like a very good thread with a lot of tremendous information on the Australian league
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61702

              #111
              Originally posted by jjgold
              Checking in here seems like a very good thread with a lot of tremendous information on the Australian league
              I think we are learning and getting better as we go.

              Wondering why I haven't concentrated on this before. It's like the perfect league to cap. So few games and teams. Not many Cups to distract from league. Avg well under 15% draws year after year. Home field advantage not huge factor. Each team plays every other team 3 times each season so extra head to head info compared to major leagues.
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              • cincinnatikid513
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-23-17
                • 45360

                #112
                good for the night owls in the states not much bet at 2am
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                • Deenoz
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-25-18
                  • 697

                  #113
                  hey Optional, just wondering which stats site did you get draws percentage from?
                  the site i used has draws as 20+% last 4 seasons. even 27% for 2016/2017 season.
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                  • 5mike5
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-21-11
                    • 52036

                    #114
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61702

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      Week 13

                      Friday 3.50am ET
                      Melbourne City FC -1 +105 v Brisbane Roar 1-0

                      Saturday 1.35 am
                      Wellington Phoenix -1 -108 v Central Coast Mariners 3-2

                      Saturday 3.50am ET
                      Melbourne Victory -105 v Newcastle United Jets 2-1

                      Sunday 2.00am ET
                      Sydney FC -110 v Adelaide United 2-1

                      Sunday 4.00am ET
                      Perth Glory -1 +125 v Western Sydney Wanderers 4-3

                      A bit of a fizzer with all three -1 picks pushing. The 2 winners and a 5 leg ML parlay for .5u left me with a 7u profit for the round though.


                      Round 9: 2-3
                      Round 10: 4-1
                      Round 11: 4-1
                      Round 12: 2-2
                      Round 13: 2-0-3


                      Round 15 is over three weeks of mid week games starting Tuesday with Brisbane v Melb Victory

                      The last game of Round 12 is Wednesday when Melb City visit Central Coast Mariners.


                      Not feeling a lot of trust in Victory but if they have Honda back in the starting lineup I'll probably bet them. Won't know until close to game time though probably. If not I might take a swing at Brisbane/Draw Double Chance.

                      And Wednesday I'll probably have MelbCity -1, or ML+Over at a guess.
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61702

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Deenoz
                        hey Optional, just wondering which stats site did you get draws percentage from?
                        the site i used has draws as 20+% last 4 seasons. even 27% for 2016/2017 season.
                        Sounds like you are doubling it. Two teams get scored a draw for each one.
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                        • Deenoz
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-25-18
                          • 697

                          #117
                          wow second time perth has won after going down 2 nil to a shitter team.
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                          • Deenoz
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-25-18
                            • 697

                            #118
                            sorry mate, what do you mean by "Two teams get scored a draw for each one"
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 61702

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Deenoz
                              sorry mate, what do you mean by "Two teams get scored a draw for each one"
                              You are counting twice as many draws as happened if you think there have been over 20% draws in any season ever.

                              Last season: 270 games, 27 draws, 10%.

                              I can only guess you are looking at a league table for last season and counting up all draws shown, which would be 54, to get your 20%. But it takes two teams to make a draw.

                              129 games so far this year, 14 draws = 10.8% so far this year.



                              10.8% probability = odds of +826 for a draw in this league.

                              To me, that means there has to be value in the 1 and 2 markets, as we never get offered even half those odds for a draw here.




                              EDIT: Just realized I am the one doubling the number of games played You are correct Deenoz Guess I have just been lucky so far fading draws so hard
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                              • cincinnatikid513
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-23-17
                                • 45360

                                #120
                                i just want to say for the record i really really dislike VAR, hope australia never gets it, terrible for overs when they take goals away i like when refs and side lines guys made mistakes been burned way too much by the VAR
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61702

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                  i just want to say for the record i really really dislike VAR, hope australia never gets it, terrible for overs when they take goals away i like when refs and side lines guys made mistakes been burned way too much by the VAR
                                  They do have VAR.

                                  Le Fondre had 2 goals disallowed by it for Sydney last night.

                                  Is it a lesser version of what Europe uses maybe?
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                                  • cincinnatikid513
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 11-23-17
                                    • 45360

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                    They do have VAR.

                                    Le Fondre had 2 goals disallowed by it for Sydney last night.

                                    Is it a lesser version of what Europe uses maybe?
                                    i don't know why i never noticed the var, lost 2 games today because of var miss the human element of sports pretty soon we won't even have umpires for baseball will be robots
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 61702

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

                                      i don't know why i never noticed the var, lost 2 games today because of var miss the human element of sports pretty soon we won't even have umpires for baseball will be robots
                                      I agree.

                                      Better without it.
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                                      • Deenoz
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-25-18
                                        • 697

                                        #124
                                        all good Optional
                                        thought i had missed something when you said draws were well under 15%.
                                        glad we cleared it up.
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                                        • badgerguy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-21-13
                                          • 2281

                                          #125
                                          Melbourne +105 this morning?
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 61702

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by badgerguy
                                            Melbourne +105 this morning?
                                            This is their 4th game in the last 10 days, and 3rd of those on the road.

                                            They are still missing Honda, Neidermeier and their regular center back.

                                            And despite Brissy not having won in 8 games, they have not looked hopeless. The Victory game tonight will complete the set of all 4 top teams they have had to play in the last 5 games.


                                            I'm leaning Melb Victory still but having trouble pulling the trigger on anything.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61702

                                              #127
                                              Brisbane Roar v Melbourne Victory - Over 1.5 Home Team (Brisbane) Total Goals Over/Under 1.5 @ +140

                                              That's my pick for the record.



                                              I've also taken Toivonen Anytime Goal Scorer +125
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                                              • cincinnatikid513
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 11-23-17
                                                • 45360

                                                #128
                                                you got one winner already
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 61702

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                  you got one winner already
                                                  Surprised I havent got both already. Lots of chances for Roar.
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                                                  • cincinnatikid513
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 11-23-17
                                                    • 45360

                                                    #130
                                                    wow 5-0 beat down
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                                                    • Optional
                                                      Administrator
                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 61702

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                      wow 5-0 beat down
                                                      Over thought that one!

                                                      Small profit still at least.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 61702

                                                        #132
                                                        What are we doing tomorrow with Melb City Mariners?

                                                        Just suck up the juice and take the ML, or -1 and risk another bloody push?
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                                                        • cincinnatikid513
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 11-23-17
                                                          • 45360

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by Optional
                                                          What are we doing tomorrow with Melb City Mariners?

                                                          Just suck up the juice and take the ML, or -1 and risk another bloody push?

                                                          ugh the mariners what to do with this team they are horrible probably just take city at -143 good form won 4 of last 5 i just don't know any other bets for this one city -143 city -1 +118
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                                                          • Optional
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 61702

                                                            #134
                                                            The -1 odds suggest public think this will be closer than it should be.

                                                            City are embarking on their killer 10 day run of 4 games that Victory just completed, so the coach might be thinking of resting players too.

                                                            After seeing Victory defy all the reasons to think they were slumping tonight, I'm still kind of tempted to go with the -1 still, and bet the quality. Really, there is a bigger quality gap between City mariners than Victory and Roar imho.

                                                            Not that City has the depth of quality Victory owns.
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                                                            • cincinnatikid513
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 11-23-17
                                                              • 45360

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                                              The -1 odds suggest public think this will be closer than it should be.

                                                              City are embarking on their killer 10 day run of 4 games that Victory just completed, so the coach might be thinking of resting players too.

                                                              After seeing Victory defy all the reasons to think they were slumping tonight, I'm still kind of tempted to go with the -1 still, and bet the quality. Really, there is a bigger quality gap between City mariners than Victory and Roar imho.

                                                              Not that City has the depth of quality Victory owns.
                                                              i ll wait to see lineups knowing odds likely go up by game time -155 -160 city
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                                                              • cincinnatikid513
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 11-23-17
                                                                • 45360

                                                                #136
                                                                one thing like about a league been pretty predictable the good teams win home or away the bad teams lose home or away
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 61702

                                                                  #137
                                                                  I bet Adelaide +190 to beat the Wanderers on Friday early btw.

                                                                  I really like them in this spot, after going 1-1-1 against other top 6 teams last 3 games the step down in opposition quality on top of the big Perth trip last game and big let down of throwing away a 3-1 lead with 10 mins to go for Wanderers I'll probably addon big once we know lineups.
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                                                                  • Optional
                                                                    Administrator
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 61702

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                                    one thing like about a league been pretty predictable the good teams win home or away the bad teams lose home or away
                                                                    Yeah. I was looking too hard for reasons that wasn't going to continue in Brisbane tonight
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                                                                    • cincinnatikid513
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 11-23-17
                                                                      • 45360

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      I bet Adelaide +190 to beat the Wanderers on Friday early btw.

                                                                      I really like them in this spot, after going 1-1-1 against other top 6 teams last 3 games the step down in opposition quality on top of the big Perth trip last game and big let down of throwing away a 3-1 lead with 10 mins to go for Wanderers I'll probably addon big once we know lineups.
                                                                      i'll have to look at that match, do like how adelaide plays well on the road wanderers been really poor and especially at home think u are on the right track there with adelaide

                                                                      just looked at line u got a really good price i'm seeing adelaide +150
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                                                                      • Optional
                                                                        Administrator
                                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                                        • 61702

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Yeah it has moved to +160 at NEDS where i bet it too.
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