Food stamp rolls plummet in states that restore work requirements

[JIBBBY]

this same thought went into and out of my brain often, it is so hard to understand. I also can't understand a drug like Heroin, I think most people know before taking it how addictive it is. why take a chance? to me it makes no sense.

btw, you wouldn't do the second paragraph part, I think you said you are a Christian, did I get that wrong?

I'd do it because I am a Christian.. Dante just because you are Christian doesn't mean you can't stop a public threat that will probably do harm to innocent people with violence.. I'd probably hit the gas if I saw a naked guy running at my car with the intent to do me harm or anyone else.. Why not? Stop the threat..

I think God would forgive me for that. ...

As far as those extremely hard drugs are concerned I could never stick a needle in my arm to get high.. NO WAY as that was always a no no in my world.. I also wouldn't do meth because I know it rots your teeth out and is highly addictive.. No thanks.. Anything that is extremely addictive always raised a red flag for me..

Never wanted to become a slave to any hard drug as I saw it destroy peoples lives..

[Thor4140]

I think I'm starting to figure this out. The guys who are furious with the food stamp camp live in the same area and are mad they have to work while their neighbor isn't. Now me i haven't seen a person use food stamps in 30 years.

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

I think I'm starting to figure this out. The guys who are furious with the food stamp camp live in the same area and are mad they have to work while their neighbor isn't. Now me i haven't seen a person use food stamps in 30 years.

They are spending your money without you even realizing it...out of sight out of mind i suppose. But you are still paying it.

[big joe 1212]

We need to clean up the Social Security system as well. Too many scammers with fake injuries getting benefits forever. Scam lawyers and doctors not helping the cause.

[Ralphie Halves]

We need to clean up the Social Security system as well. Too many scammers with fake injuries getting benefits forever. Scam lawyers and doctors not helping the cause.

Does that fall under Social Security?

Not being a dick, I really don't know. I thought we all got SS after a certain point.

[rkelly110]

I think I'm starting to figure this out. The guys who are furious with the food stamp camp live in the same area and are mad they have to work while their neighbor isn't. Now me i haven't seen a person use food stamps in 30 years.

Diversion tactic. Make them fight against each other while their rich buddies get tax breaks and they can increase
defense spending on the down low.

If everyone worried about the nose on their own damn face, instead of what others are doing, your life would be so
much better.

[khicks26]

People need to quit worrying about Food Stamps & worry about the Trillion a year we spend on war.

[chico2663]

We need to clean up the Social Security system as well. Too many scammers with fake injuries getting benefits forever. Scam lawyers and doctors not helping the cause.

you have to work 10 yrs to get ssdi.

[Ralphie Halves]

People need to quit worrying about Food Stamps & worry about the Trillion a year we spend on war.

You want the national focus to turn towards security and away from being really nice to poor people? Very anti-liberal of you.

[khicks26]

You want the national focus to turn towards security and away from being really nice to poor people? Very anti-liberal of you.

Yeah right wise guy. Maybe if you feed kids instead of dropping bombs on them in the Middle East, we wouldn't have a security problem.

Far less is spend on social programs as compared to subsidies for corporations & the rich. But they are the ones that write the laws, & push out the propaganda. So I can see why people remain stupid & fight for their table scraps.

[JIBBBY]

We need to clean up the Social Security system as well. Too many scammers with fake injuries getting benefits forever. Scam lawyers and doctors not helping the cause.

Social Security is projected to run out one day.. As an older person whom worked for a moderate income their entire life, then retire and paid into it absolutely deserve it..

Now there is a lot of fraud going with disability.. That's a different beast.. I know one person in the hood that faked being mentally insane, a complete act and she finally fooled the doctors.. Been on disability for over 15 years now.. $850 a month... Never has to work again and is completely sane and mentally stable.... Just fooled the system..

I like this person but don't like what she did.. She also has section 8 HUD housing assistance where she has a 2 bedroom apartment which she only pays $95.00 a month for..

This happens more then you'd think in the hoods of America.. Many peoples goal rather then find work is to get on disability and stay on it... It's an absolute free ride for the rest of your life and it's like hitting the lottery for poor lazy people..

[chico2663]

Social Security is projected to run out one day.. As an older person whom worked for a moderate income their entire life, then retire and paid into it absolutely deserve it..

Now there is a lot of fraud going with disability.. That's a different beast.. I know one person in the hood that faked being mentally insane, a complete act and she finally fooled the doctors.. Been on disability for over 15 years now.. $850 a month... Never has to work again and is completely sane and mentally stable.... Just fooled the system..

I like this person but don't like what she did.. She also has section 8 HUD housing assistance where she has a 2 bedroom apartment which she only pays $95.00 a month for..

This happens more then you'd think in the hoods of America.. Many peoples goal rather then find work is to get on disability and stay on it... It's an absolute free ride for the rest of your life and it's like hitting the lottery for poor lazy people..

if she is getting 850 a month that is ssi. they can never work and get that. The dumb asses that cried about welfare this is where these people landed. So that if a welfare momma was getting 800 a month for her and three kids. Now they get them to be slow learners and they get 800 x 4 or 3200 a month. Thanks bill clinton

[rkelly110]

Social Security is projected to run out one day.. As an older person whom worked for a moderate income their entire life, then retire and paid into it absolutely deserve it..

Now there is a lot of fraud going with disability.. That's a different beast.. I know one person in the hood that faked being mentally insane, a complete act and she finally fooled the doctors.. Been on disability for over 15 years now.. $850 a month... Never has to work again and is completely sane and mentally stable.... Just fooled the system..

I like this person but don't like what she did.. She also has section 8 HUD housing assistance where she has a 2 bedroom apartment which she only pays $95.00 a month for..

This happens more then you'd think in the hoods of America.. Many peoples goal rather then find work is to get on disability and stay on it... It's an absolute free ride for the rest of your life and it's like hitting the lottery for poor lazy people..

I know more right winger Trump supporters on disability than liberal/ Dems. I know you guys do to but won't admit it.

[Thor4140]

They are spending your money without you even realizing it...out of sight out of mind i suppose. But you are still paying it.

I'm more worried about the real money that gets handed out. Billions to Israel, billions to farmers, billions to oil companies, and of course the Wall Street thieves. Until u guys finally break down and worry about this type of money also this will go on and on. Why is it u are more worried about a poor guy getting free money but not a rich guy?

[Thor4140]

Social Security is projected to run out one day.. As an older person whom worked for a moderate income their entire life, then retire and paid into it absolutely deserve it..

Now there is a lot of fraud going with disability.. That's a different beast.. I know one person in the hood that faked being mentally insane, a complete act and she finally fooled the doctors.. Been on disability for over 15 years now.. $850 a month... Never has to work again and is completely sane and mentally stable.... Just fooled the system..

I like this person but don't like what she did.. She also has section 8 HUD housing assistance where she has a 2 bedroom apartment which she only pays $95.00 a month for..

This happens more then you'd think in the hoods of America.. Many peoples goal rather then find work is to get on disability and stay on it... It's an absolute free ride for the rest of your life and it's like hitting the lottery for poor lazy people..

Sounds like she has a great life there Jibby. 850 a month? Where do i sign up?

[Thor4140]

when we bailed out the bankers some of these scumbags were leaving with 20 million dollar packages. that seems to be okay with some of these guys. You give a rich guy a boat load of money it goes right out of the economy. You give a poor guy money he spends it and keeps an economy going. Another reason Reaganomics and trickle down is an idea only a complete fool falls for.

[JIBBBY]

when we bailed out the bankers some of these scumbags were leaving with 20 million dollar packages. that seems to be okay with some of these guys. You give a rich guy a boat load of money it goes right out of the economy. You give a poor guy money he spends it and keeps an economy going. Another reason Reaganomics and trickle down is an idea only a complete fool falls for.

In reply to your post before this above..

Well she does have a good life actually at $850 a month or so, drinks all day, smokes a little crack, and just hangs out with her friends all day in the hood.. When the money runs out near the end of each month she goes to local churches and gets canned foods and whole chickens and turkey's for free and wheels it all back to her 2 bedroom apartment in a shopping cart.. If she gets sick she just walks into an ER and gets free medical... Everything is a free ride...

She's a good person at heart and a good friends mother of mine.. Reggae musician is the son whom I've been friends with for years... That's how I know her...

I don't blame her either, I blame the Countries leadership in the past for allowing this to happen.. Like Chico said in an above post, have more children and you get more and more free Government money..

That then creates welfare generations, criminals as it's all passed down from generation to generation..

[RoyBacon]

I agree. Would you agree that anyone receiving a government benefit should be tested? Contractors, retired military, current representatives should also be tested then.

You mentioned a slippery slope. This is a great example. You want to regulate their behavior - so should we also insist they don't smoke...drink...attend non-cheap night movies?

Well it could be a slippery slope. But contractors are being paid for a service and so on. Welfare recipients are taking money from those who work. Welfare recipients should, as a condition for receiving welfare, be more than wiling to prove they are not a crack head in exchange for free tax payer money.

In summary it could be a slippery slope but I still believe welfare recipients should prove they do not have a drug problem. It's incredibly unfair to tax payers to take their money and give it to drug addicts.

[Mac4Lyfe]

About 85% of people on welfare are either children, the elderly or disabled. Do you really want to cut out those people? I can't wait to see the pictures of starving kids hit the world news.


In 2012, the average American taxpayer making $50,000 per year paid $36 towards the food stamps program and about $6 per year for the rest of the social safety net programs.
Corporate welfare, however, costs the average American family $6,000 a year in subsidies to big business. American families are paying to subsidize giant transnational corporations that are already making billions in profit. In the past decade alone, corporations have doubled their profits on our buck.



The bible says we will always have the poor. You can't get around it. You will always have the insane and you will always have people that cannot or refuse to work. After Katrina, I met thousands of able bodied men that never held a job in their lives. I'm talking 25, 30, 40 year old grown ass men who had zero skills. They were totally useless. You wouldn't want them anywhere near your neighborhood taking out trash, let alone anything else. What do you do with these walking zombies? Caging them is not the answer but you better try to reach their kids because they will become them in a few short years. Give the kids incentives to do better. Forget the adults. They are too far gone.

BTW - where are you going to get a $10 drug test? You're not going to find anywhere here in Houston for less than $30 in bulk. Do you know how ineffective urine test are? We don't even use them anymore. We do strictly hair tests. Those are the only accurate methods and it's going to cost you at least $80 average. But, what's the point? Don't drug users have to eat too? So you reduce a benefit and they have to find another way to eat? How? maybe robbing or stealing now? Great, you've really helped your own cause. Stupid.

Look, there's over 80 welfare programs like SS, medicare, SNAP - food stamps). They total 1 Trillion a year. That is a drop in the fukking bucket for a country with 320 million people.

[RoyBacon]

so roy you buy into fake news.

very little possibility we can discuss anything at all if you believe all major news outlets are committing fake news. the news outlets that have been around for decades and centuries are all in a conspiracy to produce fake news. What I can't understand is how they figure out the logistics of that. What if CNN runs a fake news story. Here is the problem. All the other news organizations either have to buy into the story or attack the story. So what is it? They all buy in on a fake news story? Is that it? So tens of thousands of people are involved in a conspiracy to pass off fake news. some of these same people are real conservatives you know.

Roy do you ever think about the craziness of this theory? Please sit down and think about it for just a few minutes. Whenever a story is found to be lacking substantial proof it is pulled and an apology is made and often the reporters are canned. And that happens very seldom. The logistics of an entire group of unrelated people in on fake news is simply ridiculous. It can't happen in a free world.

I can not discuss intelligently issues with people that believe this is actually happening. Now if you do believe it. And you are positive please explain the logistics. CNN issues a fake news story and every other news agency buys into it. Does that make sense?

You passed on the entire conversation to pivot to fake news?

Your first post was hoping the investigations would continue and Trump would be found crazy. Then you pivoted to he has not accomplished anything. After I explained that job growth is picking up, wages are rising and both consumer confidence and the equities market are both at all time highs you retreat to not being able discuss anything because of fake news?

It's obvious that dems, libs and the left wing media are trying to bring down Trump. So what... The problem you and the libs have is you have no message. You have no policy to help the working class. You said it's a win-win when in reality nothing has changed. Dems still despise the working class, offer them nothing and somehow the dems believe that some conspiracy or media will return them to power. And my point is nothing has changed. The losses that started in 2010 will continue until you have a message for the working class.

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

I'm more worried about the real money that gets handed out. Billions to Israel, billions to farmers, billions to oil companies, and of course the Wall Street thieves. Until u guys finally break down and worry about this type of money also this will go on and on. Why is it u are more worried about a poor guy getting free money but not a rich guy?

i don't think about food stamps, its not important enough to justify fighting it so i ride it out. The program(s) need to be evaluated imo, but I'm not going to do anything about it.

[Thor4140]

i don't think about food stamps, its not important enough to justify fighting it so i ride it out. The program(s) need to be evaluated imo, but I'm not going to do anything about it.

How many times do these programs need to be evaluated? Look, i don't like anyone getting free money if they can work but i hate it even more when u have money, and still get free money.

[milwaukee mike]

They had a thing in Maine last year where you could still be a druggie and get food stamps as long as you completed 24 hours of community service a month, so like 6 hrs week or so. 9000 people dropped food stamps as a result, which for Maine is a lot of people. Just not worth it I guess.

i'm guessing a lot of those "people" that dropped out of the program didn't exist to begin with?

quite a few of us had fake id's... some like mine were totally legitimate dead people, so i could easily have gotten credit card, food stamps, etc with the phony id if i was so inclined... then if i had to work as mike, john, ted, and tony, not enough hours in the day

[chico2663]

What is funny is these guys don't realize that the poorest states vote republican. West va. and ky have more people on the system per capita and they vote republican. I had arguments with these guys with them saying the a.c.a was obama care. They just wouldn't believe it. There was a lawyer in west va. that was getting s.s.d.i benefits for a shit load of people. He had a thing going with a dr. and a judge. Well someone didn't get paid They told on the lawyer. This one girl was crying and bitching about her mom committing suicide because they were going to make her pay back her benefits. In the paper she was talking about all the fun her mother had with the grand kids going 4 wheeling. It was unbelievable

[chico2663]

http://www.govexec.com/management/2017/03/lawyer-pleads-guilty-trying-bilk-social-security-550-million/136484/

here is the lawyer

[chico2663]

What is great about this is under obama care any miner that was in the mine for 15 years was automatically credit with black lung disease. Before you had to prove you had it and was caused by the mines. They never approved it. Now as soon as the a.c.a is repealed they all lose their disability. Fuckingg dumb asses voted against their best interests

[Plaza23]

Booze is legal so that's hard to test for and enforce.. Drug testing should be a no brainer for everyone on government assistance.. It's a small inconvenience to ask for but necessary...

Drug Testing should be a no brainer for every person receiving government money (and that includes govt employees).

[Plaza23]

If you want to save money, legalize the drugs and then you save $40,000 a year in govt housing for blacks on prisons.

You would lose your ass though in the:

A. Robberies that would take place for more addicts on the street needing to get their fix if drugs were legal.
B. Hospital bills going unpaid for the more junkies that go to the hospital

Legalizing drugs leads to more people on drugs. More people on drugs is never a net positive.

[Mac4Lyfe]

You would lose your ass though in the:
A. Robberies that would take place for more addicts on the street needing to get their fix if drugs were legal.
B. Hospital bills going unpaid for the more junkies that go to the hospital
Legalizing drugs leads to more people on drugs. More people on drugs is never a net positive.

Yeah, it's a slippery slope when you tell the entire society that it's okay to do drugs. We're seeing a drug epidemic across the country and legalizing weed in several states have already shown increases in other drugs. While I believe people should be able to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own home, there's a lot of consequences.

A big problem that I see is that we have a generation of people that are fukked up and they are having shit loads of kids. Some of these trailer trash woman and ghetto girls are menaces with the womb by having babies with no parental common sense. I saw this youtube today and it is just staggering the number of black ghetto woman that are fukked up. They think it's great to make babies on their own. The man is nowhere in the picture, nor do they want them to be. Look at the THOUSANDS of likes...

[JIBBBY]

Yeah, it's a slippery slope when you tell the entire society that it's okay to do drugs. We're seeing a drug epidemic across the country and legalizing weed in several states have already shown increases in other drugs. While I believe people should be able to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own home, there's a lot of consequences.

A big problem that I see is that we have a generation of people that are fukked up and they are having shit loads of kids. Some of these trailer trash woman and ghetto girls are menaces with the womb by having babies with no parental common sense. I saw this youtube today and it is just staggering the number of black ghetto woman that are fukked up. They think it's great to make babies on their own. The man is nowhere in the picture, nor do they want them to be. Look at the THOUSANDS of likes...

The lucky black kids born in the ghetto's are better raised by their own grandparents as they are taken to church every Sunday, made to graduate high school and maybe raised better with morals and love... That's what I've noticed..

The other black kids raised by the ignorant single young doped up or drunken mother on welfare is never good.. If the mother isn't high then she is passed out with a strange man in their bed every other night. That's never good for a kid to see growing up.. Those kids don't really have a male role model or loving mother growing up in other words. Those kids typically end up in jail, dead or in a gang committing crimes....

World has it's issues even here in the United States of America.. Our hoods are a mess..

[Mac4Lyfe]

^ A straight up mess. What can you do about this madness? There's thousands of people who don't think it's strange and actually applauds it. They think they are queens having all these damn kids by different daddies. I hate to say it but we need to neuter an entire generation.

[brooks85]

Yeah right wise guy. Maybe if you feed kids instead of dropping bombs on them in the Middle East, we wouldn't have a security problem.

Far less is spend on social programs as compared to subsidies for corporations & the rich. But they are the ones that write the laws, & push out the propaganda. So I can see why people remain stupid & fight for their table scraps.

lol naive like a child but that is khicks. A proud graduate of youtubeU who majored in ignorance. Doesn't know a thing about history obviously.

"Maybe if you feed kids instead of dropping bombs on them in the Middle East, we wouldn't have a security problem. "

the comedy is unreal with this clown

[JIBBBY]

^ A straight up mess. What can you do about this madness? There's thousands of people who don't think it's strange and actually applauds it. They think they are queens having all these damn kids by different daddies. I hate to say it but we need to neuter an entire generation.

I think if you penalize welfare recipients when they have babies rather then reward them with $200.00 more for every kid would be a good idea for starters.. Deduct 10% of their welfare income with every kid they have while on welfare I say instead...

The way it set up now having babies is a good thing for welfare recipients... It's just crazy, if you are broke, unemployed and on Government assistance you should not be having babies!! Needless to say we should not be rewarding them with more benefits if they do..

[chico2663]

rioting in germany. MAGA

[jt315]

Those damn far righties acting up again.