MJ wouldnt have done what Lebron just did....

[5 star bomb]

Lebron passed the ball off like that with the game on the line?


MJ would of won the game for his team... that is the difference between the best ever and Lebron. Lebron has to take that shot

[Emmett Brown]

You're a hater. Dude almost puts up 50 and is about to pass out from fatigue because the rest of his team are college players. Kobe had Shaq. Jordan had Pippen. Lebron has this.




Get a clue

[Fiasco]

are you kidding me emmett???

Lebron has one of the best supporting casts in the league...

and I agree, MJ would never pass the ball in this situation... Proof Lebron is Overrated at this stage of his career

[RogueJuror]

Varejao from San Pablo.

[Chi_archie]

don't know about best supporting cast....

but unless anyone of them are better then Lebron? why didn't he take the shot? I don't care how wide open a 3 is, you only need 2 to win.


maybe Lebron needs to stop practicing 90 footers and trick shots and become a 88% or better free throw shooter... I haven't played in 10 years, and without warming up I still shoot better from the line then him....

[Emmett Brown]

are you kidding me emmett???

Lebron has one of the best supporting casts in the league...

and I agree, MJ would never pass the ball in this situation... Proof Lebron is Overrated at this stage of his career

[ijustwant2bpaid]

You're a hater. Dude almost puts up 50 and is about to pass out from fatigue because the rest of his team are college players. Kobe had Shaq. Jordan had Pippen. Lebron has this.




Get a clue

u see him getting knocked around the court after he was crying from getting dropped by the screen..

[BrandonLaz]

To Kerr for the win? To Paxton for the win? Jordan passed the ball on multiple occasions to his team in big time situations. Granted he took it on his own to do it more than he passed it, but he trusted in his team and sometimes they delivered sometimes they didn't. Sometimes Jordan delivered and sometimes he didn't. I am a supporter of Kobe versus Lebron as everyone knows, but Lebron played great. He missed to many FTs and that is my only knock on what he did tonight. I remember Kobe got ripped for drawing a double at the top of the key and hitting Horry up for a 3 I believe against the Spurs in a playoff series. Horry was wide open had hit countless game winners and he still caught grief. Sometimes you have to trust in your team to help you and tonight they didn't help Lebron. Anybody that says he doesn't have good role players though is something I do not agree with. I think they have plenty of solid players on the Cavs no better than anybody on the Magic for sure.

[The_Kid]

That play is what separates Kobe from Lebron. How can I consider Lebron to be the best when he doesn't even want the ball at the end? How can I consider him to be the best when he doesn't hit free throws down the stretch? I'm sorry but I just can't label him the best yet. As shown, he still has a lot of learning to do. He cannot pass up a shot with the game on the line.

[BobHarvey]

don't know about best supporting cast....

but unless anyone of them are better then Lebron? why didn't he take the shot? I don't care how wide open a 3 is, you only need 2 to win.


maybe Lebron needs to stop practicing 90 footers and trick shots and become a 88% or better free throw shooter... I haven't played in 10 years, and without warming up I still shoot better from the line then him....

[InvestmentWager]

Lebron passed the ball off like that with the game on the line?


MJ would of won the game for his team... that is the difference between the best ever and Lebron. Lebron has to take that shot

How old are you? 14? Because you obviously never watched Jordan play.

[durito]

are you kidding me emmett???

Lebron has one of the best supporting casts in the league...

have you seen clevelands stats when lebron is not in the game?

[Richkas]

are you kidding me emmett???

Lebron has one of the best supporting casts in the league...

and I agree, MJ would never pass the ball in this situation... Proof Lebron is Overrated at this stage of his career

Lebron is so overrated its not even funny.

[jsmithj88]

cavs lost because lebron dominated the ball in the 2nd half
his teammates were not involved in the offense and the blame goes to lebron
u also see how limited he really is when he cant drive to the lane, his jumper is still a weakness

[VegasDave]

Funny, if he tries to take the shot through a ton of traffic and it gets blocked or it doesn't fall, we get this same thread about how selfish of a player LeBron is and how he had guys wide open.

[BrandonLaz]

Funny, if he tries to take the shot through a ton of traffic and it gets blocked or it doesn't fall, we get this same thread about how selfish of a player LeBron is and how he had guys wide open.

Yea it goes that way with Kobe though as well. No matter what they can't win unless they win one mistake and the critics are out. I only blame his poor FT shooting as a reason for a loss. He is also the only reason this game was close as well and people need to take notice of that. I love greatness and tonight Lebron was great he just missed a few FT attempts which really hurt. He found the right guys at the right moment and they did not deliver in the Laker game Fisher and Ariza delivered otherwise a thread would have gone like this about Kobe.

[ohdear]

If Delonte hit that wide-open shot would you have posted this same thread??

Can't just judge the means by the end...

[Mac4Lyfe]

cavs lost because lebron dominated the ball in the 2nd half
his teammates were not involved in the offense and the blame goes to lebron
u also see how limited he really is when he cant drive to the lane, his jumper is still a weakness

What the hell were you watching?? He was hitting outside shots like they were layups. Did you see the game? he went 20 of 30 for 49 points. What else do you want him to do? What do you want him to do when the entire team played like horseshit? First you guys say he should take the shot then you say he shouldn't dominate the half

He's surrounded by scrubs and still almost won the game. If one of his teammates stepped up they would have won the game. The last play he was underneath the basket as he was forced out of bounds. How in the hell do you guys think he should have taken that shot when he made the correct play???

[BrandonLaz]

What the hell were you watching?? He was hitting outside shots like they were layups. Did you see the game? he went 20 of 30 for 49 points. What else do you want him to do? What do you want him to do when the entire team played like horseshit? First you guys say he should take the shot then you say he shouldn't dominate the half

He's surrounded by scrubs and still almost won the game. If one of his teammates stepped up they would have won the game. The last play he was underneath the basket as he was forced out of bounds. How in the hell do you guys think he should have taken that shot when he made the correct play???

Calm down Mac when people are on the wrong side of a play blame has to go somewhere other than themselves. Apparently it goes to Lebron tonight you know that I love Kobe and think he is better, but tonight Lebron put on a performance for the ages. He did all he could except make his FTs. There is no reason he should have shot better from the field than the FT line. Either way that isn't the reason they lost they lost, because nobody stepped up. Again though you and I see differently I do not think the Cavs have a bunch of scrubs as I think they are very talented even without James. Do you really think the Magic are that much better? The Magic just wanted it more tonight the Cavs pulled a typical Laker moment where they let another team that was hungrier get the best of them.

[SBR Lou]

14 seconds left, only down 1, why shoot a 3? Even if it's wide open, silly.

[ijustwant2bpaid]

seriously, take the 2 point shot and draw the foul... moronic behavior..

[Mac4Lyfe]

Brandon - Lebron is surrounded by scrubs. What player on the Cav's outside of Lebron would start for the Magic? I'm a huge Cav fan but this team is not that talented. Mike Brown is getting blood out of a bunch of turnips. Who on this team can matchup with Howard and Rashard Lewis. The Magic bench is much better than the Cav's. The glaring weakness of the Cavs is in their bigs. Z and Big Ben are no factor whatsoever. AV is horrible. Joe Smith is the really only consistent big but hes really a 7th or 8th man at best.

This game was Lebron playing 1 on 5. The Magic didn't give a damn about any other player because every other player on the team is inconsistent. Even if Cleveland is shooting well you only have to play 4 on 5 because teams don't care about the 4 position. Andy and Ben are not going to beat you. They are self checked. Andy had a real good first minute then he came back down to earth and Rashard ate his ass up the rest of the game. The bigs really can't play one on one defense because they are too flat footed.

Lebron went 6 of 10 from FT's. While of course not good that wasn't the reason they lost the game. He can't do it all by himself and just like last year it's him against the world. Danny Ferry needs to get his ass to work and get him some help.

[SBR Lou]

seriously, take the 2 point shot and draw the foul... moronic behavior..

Whats ironic is when in the exact same situation last night, that's exactly what Kobe did, he understood that even if he didn't score at the rim, worst case scenario he draws a foul and goes to the line. Perhaps Lebron was hesitant to do so because he's only a 75% FT shooter.

[jsmithj88]

What the hell were you watching?? He was hitting outside shots like they were layups. Did you see the game? he went 20 of 30 for 49 points. What else do you want him to do? What do you want him to do when the entire team played like horseshit? First you guys say he should take the shot then you say he shouldn't dominate the half

He's surrounded by scrubs and still almost won the game. If one of his teammates stepped up they would have won the game. The last play he was underneath the basket as he was forced out of bounds. How in the hell do you guys think he should have taken that shot when he made the correct play???

lebron played great, but he dominated the ball, like he always does
if they had won, it would have been all credit to him
but since they lost, and he had the ball pretty much all of the 2nd half, its on him
i dont disagree with his pass at the end, hes done it all season long, he hit the open teammate.

[jsmithj88]

Brandon - Lebron is surrounded by scrubs. What player on the Cav's outside of Lebron would start for the Magic? I'm a huge Cav fan but this team is not that talented. Mike Brown is getting blood out of a bunch of turnips. Who on this team can matchup with Howard and Rashard Lewis. The Magic bench is much better than the Cav's. The glaring weakness of the Cavs is in their bigs. Z and Big Ben are no factor whatsoever. AV is horrible. Joe Smith is the really only consistent big but hes really a 7th or 8th man at best.

This game was Lebron playing 1 on 5. The Magic didn't give a damn about any other player because every other player on the team is inconsistent. Even if Cleveland is shooting well you only have to play 4 on 5 because teams don't care about the 4 position. Andy and Ben are not going to beat you. They are self checked. Andy had a real good first minute then he came back down to earth and Rashard ate his ass up the rest of the game. The bigs really can't play one on one defense because they are too flat footed.

Lebron went 6 of 10 from FT's. While of course not good that wasn't the reason they lost the game. He can't do it all by himself and just like last year it's him against the world. Danny Ferry needs to get his ass to work and get him some help.

i agree, the magic are a serious serious threat to beat them in the series. the cavs have big matchup problems

[BrandonLaz]

Charles Barkley said it the best and that is why I have the Magic at +560 to win the series. On paper the Magic are the better team. Now are they a much better team no they are not, but you are right they are the better team. Mo Williams is not a scrub he is a very good player even before joining Lebron he was a solid player. I love Wally off the bench he gives you solid minutes in there. Yes down low you are very weak which hurts you a ton especially with Howard out there. That is the reason I think the Magic would give the Lakers problems is Howard down low he is just a beast in the post and aggresive something they do not handle well. I still think Z is solid though and helps you a ton in this series as his ability to hit the outside shot clears Howard from the lane a lot which is HUGE when playing the Magic. Z brings you something that other Centers don't so I would not take that for granted.

[m0nkeydump]

That's the difference between Kobe (or Jordan) and LeBron. LeBron should have taken the last shot, especially since he has proven to be un-guardable the entire game. Cleveland should live with the outcome whether it resulted in a win or loss.

And let's not play the "Cleveland has bad supporting cast" card. No one seemed to be saying that when they achieved the top record in the league and ended the season with a home record of 39-2. When Cleveland wins, it's "LeBron makes everybody better!" When they lose, it's "LeBron's teammates suck!"

[Fiasco]

I really really really hate when people blame clevelands losses on Lebron's teammates and not him...

Cleveland lost by 1...

It's not really realistic in full but if lebron shoots 7 of 10 then they go to OT... 8 of 10 they win it...

Lebron played great, but he's supposed to...

It's unbelievable how people constantly say Cleveland's the best but then say all they have is lebron when they lose... if they were the best they'd have more than 1 threat... they can't be the best when they win but only a 1 player squad when they lose... ppl don't say kobe is all the lakers have...

I mean Miami should be the 3rd best in the league if that was the case...

Lebron's got the cast to win a championship... he won't do it though because he doesn't know how to play well when it counts. he thinks too hard or doesn't take the last shot or misses a free throw etc...

[bettilimbroke999]

Must be tough to be Lebron, put up 49 points in a playoff game and still get criticized, if Lebron had a 101 pt game and lost there'd be guys knockin him for a late FT he missed, nobody plays perfect not even Lebron or Kobe, he played incredible tonight and his team still lost, that is not a good sign for Cavs this series but we'll see maybe they'll come out friday and win by 30

[The_Kid]

This thread is not to criticize Lebron. If everyone really thinks he is the best player, then why would he not settle for a jump shot (which was going for him ALL night) instead of trying to force something inside when he knows everyone will be collapsing on him anyway? Honestly, I thought his drive was a dumb move but kicking it out to West was even dumber because him and Mo Will were not hitting ANYTHING tonight. But Lebron may have had something else in mind by passing it out to West. I don't know. It's easy to second guess the situation after it happened but in all honesty, Lebron SHOULD have taken that last shot and took it upon himself if he missed it.

Yea it goes that way with Kobe though as well.

Kobe loses either way. I haven't seen the same with Lebron though.

[Buckeye]

Anyone who says Lebron is overrated does not even know what the hell they are talking about. Lebron carried Cleveland the whole second half. Orlando had 4 or 5 guys scoring and Cleveland had one. I admit Delonte West made a shot and so did Mo Williams but Lebron's supporting cast did really nothing in the 2nd half and Cleveland still alomost won. The real facts are that Orlando is a better team and has a better supporting cast and Cleveland is in trouble this series, especially with those easy first and second round opponents. Also, for all you Kobe and Jordan lovers neither of them had point up the same numbers Lebron has by age 24. If he continues to get better he will be the best ever!!!

[jsmithj88]

Anyone who says Lebron is overrated does not even know what the hell they are talking about. Lebron carried Cleveland the whole second half. Orlando had 4 or 5 guys scoring and Cleveland had one. I admit Delonte West made a shot and so did Mo Williams but Lebron's supporting cast did really nothing in the 2nd half and Cleveland still alomost won. The real facts are that Orlando is a better team and has a better supporting cast and Cleveland is in trouble this series, especially with those easy first and second round opponents. Also, for all you Kobe and Jordan lovers neither of them had point up the same numbers Lebron has by age 24. If he continues to get better he will be the best ever!!!

lebron has put up ridiculous numbers
but he plays in a diluted eastern conference
jordan played back when there was real defense so his numbers would be wayyy higher if he were to play today

[Buckeye]

lebron has put up ridiculous numbers
but he plays in a diluted eastern conference
jordan played back when there was real defense so his numbers would be wayyy higher if he were to play today

I will give you that, but I think people need to give this kid some credit. It just seems like a lot of people hate on him for no reason, he is not a cocky and plays hard every night. I think if he leaves Cleveland in 2010 I bet all of the haters would love to have him on there team!

[BrandonLaz]

I will give you that, but I think people need to give this kid some credit. It just seems like a lot of people hate on him for no reason, he is not a cocky and plays hard every night. I think if he leaves Cleveland in 2010 I bet all of the haters would love to have him on there team!

Of course we would all love to have him. Nobody here would not want him playing for their favorite team. Even if by a miracle from God he played for my team though I would still want him to improve his midrange and longrange jumper, FT, and I still think he needs a lot of work on defense. So even though he is awesome and one of the best players in the league his ability to be the greatest ever is what makes everyone so critical. When you have that much talent everybody wants to see perfection, and he could be the closest thing to that in basketball we have ever seen if he gets those things added to his skillset.

[whoatommy]

We all saw Kobe last night and Lebron tonight, both in the same late-game situations.....who would you rather have on your team?? lol

Lebron misses free throws, gave the ball up at the end, and ultimately, his team lost. Give it up for the people's MVP!