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  • Andy117
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-07-10
    • 9511

    #351
    Originally posted by curious
    I was a young adult during the Carter Depression. I can distinctly remember President Reagan explaining how he was going to fix the economy. His main policy was to increase the money supply (Volker had basically turned the M1 money supply off). He also talked about how cutting taxes for business owners and upper income taxpayers would stimulate the economy. The President called this "supply side economics", his detractors called it "trickle down economics". The left tried to ridicule President Reagan's fiscal policies by calling them "Voodoo Economics".
    I thought Voodoo Economics was a term first used by George H W Bush.
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    • SRBI
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-20-09
      • 8393

      #352
      Originally posted by curious
      Why don't you read some ******* books so that you can know what the **** you are talking about once in a while? ******* idiot.
      After reading this, I'm convinced who the real idiot is, thanks for clearing it up for me
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      • curious
        Restricted User
        • 07-20-07
        • 9093

        #353
        Originally posted by Andy117
        I thought Voodoo Economics was a term first used by George H W Bush.
        Bush coined the term, the left adopted it. It was in the newspapers every damm day. I'm pretty sure Bush didn't own all the newspapers or write all the idiotic articles that used that term.
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        • pavyracer
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-12-07
          • 82667

          #354
          Originally posted by DwightShrute
          nice try.

          It has nothing to do with Bush. I can say Clinton had 8 years to secure the airports to prevent it from happening but that too would be weak.
          But why blame Clinton? Why not blame Bush Sr or Reagan for not securing the airports? Didn't Reagan fukk up the Middle East in Lebanon, Iran and Libya? So why didn't he secure the airports since he was responsible for the creation of Al Qaeda? After all Al Qaeda was founded during his administration.
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          • SBR_John
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-12-05
            • 16471

            #355
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            But why blame Clinton? Why not blame Bush Sr or Reagan for not securing the airports? Didn't Reagan fukk up the Middle East in Lebanon, Iran and Libya? So why didn't he secure the airports since he was responsible for the creation of Al Qaeda? After all Al Qaeda was founded during his administration.
            Hmm I seem to remember Iran taking Americans hostage under Jimmy Carter and seem to remember once Reagan was elected they couldnt release them fast enough. Our airports and citizens were not in danger under Reagan, the middle east was scared to death of him. When someone got out of line like Libya we bombed their leader's house and no more problems from him.
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82667

              #356
              These are the fukk ups of Reagan in the Middle East.

              1. He sent Marines into Lebanon during Civil War and had them slaughtered.

              2. He downed a civilian Iranian jet in the Gulf with a SAM from a destroyer. What a coward!

              3. He bombed civilian targets in Libya primarily hospitals with children.

              This bread the Al Qaeda and all the hatred people have in the Middle East for the US.

              He did nothing to secure the airports. Back when he was a president there were no metal detectors or security and you could literally walk in at the gate the same way you go at a Greyhound bus stop. At that time cities like London and Paris had full airport security with metal detectors, bomb sniffing dogs and armed military with Uzis and HK-47's at every corner of the airports.

              You said no one feared Reagan? What did he do when the Soviets downed the Korean jet in the Sea of Japan? Nothing. He wouldn't dare order an attack on a Soviet military base. But give him credit. He downed a civilian jet in Iran and bombed hospitals in Libya. I bet you those children and women he murdered were scared of him. Coward!
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              • DwightShrute
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-17-09
                • 101287

                #357
                wow what a spin job Pavy
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                • unde0087
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 03-27-08
                  • 28998

                  #358
                  Obama's solution to any situation or crisis is throw a couple trillion at it, see how it works. For a guy who was running his mouth about Bush spending he sure is doing a good job of running us deeper and deeper in debt. By the time his term is up he will have spent more money than all the presidents combined at this rate.
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                  • curious
                    Restricted User
                    • 07-20-07
                    • 9093

                    #359
                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                    Hmm I seem to remember Iran taking Americans hostage under Jimmy Carter and seem to remember once Reagan was elected they couldnt release them fast enough. Our airports and citizens were not in danger under Reagan, the middle east was scared to death of him. When someone got out of line like Libya we bombed their leader's house and no more problems from him.
                    I remember Reagan answering this question during the Presidential campaign "What will you do about the hostages if you win the election?". Candidate Reagan's answer was "I will tell the US military to go to Iran and bring the hostages back alive or the Ayatollah back dead".
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                    • Extra Innings
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-26-10
                      • 15058

                      #360
                      =====>>>>>>Only rational and level-headed person in this thread.
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                      • DwightShrute
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-17-09
                        • 101287

                        #361
                        you realize you are including yourself which means that your last post is coming from a NON rational and unlevel-headed person. Just throwing that out there.
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                        • curious
                          Restricted User
                          • 07-20-07
                          • 9093

                          #362
                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                          you realize you are including yourself which means that your last post is coming from a NON rational and unlevel-headed person. Just throwing that out there.
                          You can tell from looking at me (my avatar is a picture of me) that I am rational and level headed.
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                          • DwightShrute
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-17-09
                            • 101287

                            #363
                            Originally posted by curious
                            You can tell from looking at me (my avatar is a picture of me) that I am rational and level headed.
                            , I try not judging people by their looks. Perhaps you just came off a 3 week meth binge the day of the picture. Nothing a shave and shower couldn't fix.
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                            • losturmarbles
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-01-08
                              • 4604

                              #364
                              Originally posted by wtf
                              why is everyone blaming bush for these wars, there was no wars when 9-11 happened

                              do you think there were be any wars if 9-11 DID NOT HAPPEN

                              that is the question
                              Do you think they would bring an end to the wars if they caught Bin Laden or confirmed his death?

                              that is the question.

                              and what's 911 got to do with the iraq war?

                              Even Obama promised to bring 2 brigades home a month and have all troops out of Iraq by the end of 2009.
                              Now after breaking that promise, he's leaving 50k troops and saying all combat missions are over. Obama's exit is just as ridiculous as Bush's "missioned accomplished".

                              Kucinich may be a socialist loony, but he's spot on here.
                              Who is in charge of our operations in Iraq , now? George Orwell? A war based on lies continues to be a war based on lies. Today, we have a war that is not a war, with combat troops who are not combat troops.
                              ...
                              This is not the end of the war; this is simply a new stage in the campaign to lull the American people into accepting an open-ended presence in Iraq . This is not an honest accounting to the American people and it diminishes the role of the troops who will put their lives on the line. This is not fair to the troops, their families or the American people.
                              ...
                              The cost of the wars has been estimated to be around $1 million per soldier per year. Each year the troop levels stay at 50,000 means another $50 billion is wasted. I object to spending billions of dollars to maintain a charade in Iraq while our own economy is failing and over 15 million Americans are out of work. I object to keeping any level troops in Iraq to maintain a war based on lies. It is time that Congress sees through the manipulation and finally acts to truly end the war by stopping its funding.
                              Bottom line is Obama is puppet, just like Bush was, for the globalist agenda and the powers behind it.
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                              • Skidcom
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-17-06
                                • 1796

                                #365
                                One of the single best reasons to like Obama is the fact that the far left is fast becoming a knife in the President's side. They hate that he isn't pushing their agenda. That tells me that he is far less "radical" than many of the demagogues of the right would have you believe. So the reality is the Obama is center left with a willingness to think big and really tackle the major issues or at the very least drive the conversation. At least he has ideas and attempts to implement them constructively. I am center right, a pragmatic conservative if you will. The Republican party finally weaned itself off the religious right and now they may lose their power to the Tea Party. But that is a different topic...........
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                                • frostno98
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-11-07
                                  • 9769

                                  #366
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                                  • THEGREAT30
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-04-08
                                    • 8970

                                    #367
                                    I am starting to believe he likes to war and kill too much, seems like a republican to me, and he has not said a bad thing about Bush since his campaign.
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                                    • Smoke
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-09-09
                                      • 48111

                                      #368
                                      Good bump

                                      Obama 2012
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                                      • NYSportsGuy210
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-07-09
                                        • 11347

                                        #369
                                        Obama 2012 for sure now. **** all you h*ck idiots who only care about your greedy fat pockets at the expense of our environment and the state of our country and vanishing middle class.

                                        First Barack prevented our financial collapse and now Obama did in 2.5 years what Bush couldn't do in 7 years.

                                        Suck it!!
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                                        • losturmarbles
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-01-08
                                          • 4604

                                          #370
                                          Originally posted by losturmarbles

                                          Do you think they would bring an end to the wars if they caught Bin Laden or confirmed his death?
                                          ... so when are the boys coming home???
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                                          • jw
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-25-09
                                            • 3999

                                            #371
                                            Originally posted by losturmarbles

                                            ... so when are the boys coming home???
                                            ... just before the election ... right about the time unemployment drops and gas prices are cut in half ;0)
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                                            • losturmarbles
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-01-08
                                              • 4604

                                              #372
                                              Originally posted by jw
                                              ... just before the election ... right about the time unemployment drops and gas prices are cut in half ;0)
                                              Do you believe in magic?
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                                              • jw
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-25-09
                                                • 3999

                                                #373
                                                Originally posted by losturmarbles
                                                Do you believe in magic?
                                                .. nope - but I believe in market manipulation ...

                                                unemployment will be down to around 8% by the time of the next election ... which will mean that there will be room to increase interest rates .. which in turn will allow the dollar to strengthen .. which will result in lower gas prices.

                                                Its economics 101.
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                                                • losturmarbles
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-01-08
                                                  • 4604

                                                  #374
                                                  Originally posted by jw
                                                  .. nope - but I believe in market manipulation ...

                                                  unemployment will be down to around 8% by the time of the next election ... which will mean that there will be room to increase interest rates .. which in turn will allow the dollar to strengthen .. which will result in lower gas prices.

                                                  Its economics 101.
                                                  Well you're certainly proof that manipulation works
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                                                  • jw
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-25-09
                                                    • 3999

                                                    #375
                                                    Originally posted by losturmarbles

                                                    Well you're certainly proof that manipulation works
                                                    Yeah cos "makin' schit up" is much more reliable than "how economics actually works"



                                                    Please bump this thread come election time and tell me i'm wrong ...
                                                    Feel free to post your own predictions and we will see who is closer.
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                                                    • losturmarbles
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-01-08
                                                      • 4604

                                                      #376
                                                      Originally posted by jw
                                                      Yeah cos "makin' schit up" is much more reliable than "how economics actually works"


                                                      Or knowing when to "actually use quotations" could make you look like "you know what you're talking about"...
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                                                      • rsnnh12
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-26-10
                                                        • 3487

                                                        #377
                                                        Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                        Obama 2012 for sure now. **** all you h*ck idiots who only care about your greedy fat pockets at the expense of our environment and the state of our country and vanishing middle class.

                                                        First Barack prevented our financial collapse and now Obama did in 2.5 years what Bush couldn't do in 7 years.

                                                        Suck it!!
                                                        Wut
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                                                        • jw
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-25-09
                                                          • 3999

                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by losturmarbles

                                                          Or knowing when to "actually use quotations" could make you look like "you know what you're talking about"...
                                                          ahh --- good old .. can't beat 'em with the argument so lets turn into the grammar Nazi ... congratulations .. you must be very proud of your superior schooling :0)
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                                                          • BiffTFinancial
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-29-09
                                                            • 22670

                                                            #379
                                                            Originally posted by Andy117
                                                            I thought Voodoo Economics was a term first used by George H W Bush.
                                                            i thought that Voodoo Economics was a term first used by Ben Stein in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
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                                                            • NYSportsGuy210
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-07-09
                                                              • 11347

                                                              #380
                                                              Originally posted by rsnnh12
                                                              Wut
                                                              My point exactly hick...
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                                                              • nosniboR11
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-02-08
                                                                • 10042

                                                                #381
                                                                Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                                My point exactly hick...
                                                                this hick will knock you the **** out
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                                                                • NYSportsGuy210
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-07-09
                                                                  • 11347

                                                                  #382
                                                                  Bring it clown.
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                                                                  • Chuck Sims
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-29-05
                                                                    • 3072

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                                    Obama 2012 for sure now. **** all you h*ck idiots who only care about your greedy fat pockets at the expense of our environment and the state of our country and vanishing middle class.

                                                                    First Barack prevented our financial collapse and now Obama did in 2.5 years what Bush couldn't do in 7 years.

                                                                    Suck it!!
                                                                    You stupid douchebag. I suppose you believe in man made global warming and Obama "saved or created" millions of jobs.
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                                                                    • Chuck Sims
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-29-05
                                                                      • 3072

                                                                      #384
                                                                      One more thing douche, Obama saved the big fat cats on Wall Street from financial collapse. The same people that donated millions to the turds campaign.
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                                                                      • kickenchicken
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 09-17-10
                                                                        • 430

                                                                        #385
                                                                        look here i have never voted nor registered to vote and im 41... i will now register and will be casting my vote in 2012 for mr. president. i have served our military and in my opinion mr. president has served true to what america is founded upon.... we have resurrected revenge against a cowardly enemy that for some time dodged us. but with the guts that past leaders did NOT take advantage of mr. president gathered and ok`d the chance to take care of unfinished buisness that most leaders would be scared to do because of public opinion...so to all as i have, wanted a leader that doesnt let perception assist in his world altering decisions vote for mr. obama!!!! thank you sir!!! go SEALS!!!!
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