David Ortiz Numbers are Insane!

**jjgold** · 05-29-16, 11:58 PM

First ballot Hall of Famer and he will be playing next year

Just a natural hitter

**mikefan1034** · 05-30-16, 12:11 AM

First ballot hall of famer without question. One of the most clutchest hitters to ever play the game. What jeter meant to the Yankees is what Ortiz means for the Red Sox.

**Avenger_deux** · 05-30-16, 12:30 AM

Farewell tour. I said this first week of MLB.

Expect an incredible farewell game.

League loves this guy.

**VeggieDog** · 05-30-16, 12:33 AM

A 40-year-old hitting like that? Gotta be on the juice.

**CanuckG** · 05-30-16, 12:53 AM

Red Sox to win it all?

**Sledge187** · 05-30-16, 12:55 AM

Wowser!

**TheMoneyShot** · 05-30-16, 02:01 AM

Guy on Methasterone easily.

**Ro0k** · 05-30-16, 02:08 AM

He tested positive back in 03 but everyone just looks past it because he's a "good" guy...who beats up telephones with bats.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 05-30-16, 02:33 AM

Roid user with head the size of a watermelon

Cool guy though and clutch

**RavensFan2k3** · 05-30-16, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by Ro0k

He tested positive back in 03 but everyone just looks past it because he's a "good" guy...who beats up telephones with bats.

Lol fukk him

**The Giant** · 05-30-16, 03:33 AM

Hard to imagine he's clean, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

**manny24** · 05-30-16, 06:35 AM

this our fukkin seedy

**BigJay** · 05-30-16, 06:43 AM

Ortiz was a Punch and Judy hitter who had only hit 20 homers once in his career. Gets traded to Boston and his over 40 three of his first four years there including 54 in 2006??
There were many on the glorious '04 comeback team that were juicing. I like Papi, not a big Yanks fan here or anything, but I think the likelihood that he's been on some sort of PED for multiple years, not just the one he tested positive for is very high. Don't know how you leave the other dopers that deserve to be in the Hall out and let the guys the majority of us like in.

**BigJay** · 05-30-16, 06:49 AM

Probably be easier as some have suggested to call the era starting post strike (although I'm sure some teams like the A's and Rangers were doing it earlier) to pretty recently the PED era-wing for anyone getting inducted to the Hall who played during this time. I think it's too not fair to give some of the guys that most think as squeaky clean, the Jeter's and Maddux's of the world a free pass and pass judgement on others where there's not absolute proof. So many ways to mask the new shit they make anyway as stated above, who really will ever know who was taking what both in the last couple of decades and even today. Dee Gordon is a perfect point. Guys like Maddux and Pedro pretty much get a free pass because of their body style, but they were putting up rediculous numbers too. Who really knows?

**opie1988** · 05-30-16, 06:51 AM

ZERO percent chance he isn't fukkin doping. I don't give a fukk how "naturally gifted" of a hitter you are...no motherfukker is hitting major league pitching like this at 40+. It ain't happening.

Don't be a fukkin idiot.

**Ratpack** · 05-30-16, 06:55 AM

wait can he be a hof without even picking up a glove i thought baseball was a two way sport you play offense AND defense the man hasnt picked up a glove in 10 years what does that say to todays kids if i could hit i could be like papi and never have to play the field

**hit_me90** · 05-30-16, 07:01 AM

wasn't it about 2 yrs ago Ortiz couldn't even catch up to a 90 mile fastball and was so bad the sox were thinking of cutting him. But after eating right, getting 8 hours of sleep a day and taking his vitamins he did what all players do as they approach 40, his bat speed got faster, his strength came back, and starting turning on 95 mile fastballs. If he is juiced, I don't blame him. would you rather be making millions and playing professional baseball or selling oranges in the streets

**manny24** · 05-30-16, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by opie1988

ZERO percent chance he isn't fukkin doping. I don't give a fukk how "naturally gifted" of a hitter you are...no motherfukker is hitting major league pitching like this at 40+. It ain't happening.

Don't be a fukkin idiot.

called to tell him about this post

**jjgold** · 05-30-16, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Red Sox to win it all?

If pitching gets more consistent

**jtoler** · 05-30-16, 08:41 AM

Guys are crazy if they are still taking the risk, they must have a great understanding of MLB's testing capabilities and an understanding of whatever they are taking and the masking agents. After all that it still seems very risky, if they are on something and not getting caught who is to say when MLB will come up with an even better test that ultimately is able to catch whatever they may be using.

**Ro0k** · 05-30-16, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by BigJay

Probably be easier as some have suggested to call the era starting post strike (although I'm sure some teams like the A's and Rangers were doing it earlier) to pretty recently the PED era-wing for anyone getting inducted to the Hall who played during this time. I think it's too not fair to give some of the guys that most think as squeaky clean, the Jeter's and Maddux's of the world a free pass and pass judgement on others where there's not absolute proof. So many ways to mask the new shit they make anyway as stated above, who really will ever know who was taking what both in the last couple of decades and even today. Dee Gordon is a perfect point. Guys like Maddux and Pedro pretty much get a free pass because of their body style, but they were putting up rediculous numbers too. Who really knows?

Bautista is another one. Look at his stats on a yearly basis. One year he just figured out how to hit 50 bombs? Garbage now. Whole team can't hit. Once collabello got busted they all stopped, lol.

**El Nino** · 05-30-16, 11:52 AM

Juicer. Guey was dog shit with the Twins...goes to Boston and credits the "hitting coach" for fixing his swing. Yeah, with steroids in your fukkin' ass, pal! He is dirty and a clown. Loved because everyone hated and was tired of the Yankees. Doesn't play the field + failed a test = no HOF.

**d2bets** · 05-30-16, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Ro0k

Bautista is another one. Look at his stats on a yearly basis. One year he just figured out how to hit 50 bombs? Garbage now. Whole team can't hit. Once collabello got busted they all stopped, lol.

Ben Zobrist is another guy. He's gotten better yearly and having his best season at age 35.

**44 Mag** · 05-30-16, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Ratpack

wait can he be a hof without even picking up a glove i thought baseball was a two way sport you play offense AND defense the man hasnt picked up a glove in 10 years what does that say to todays kids if i could hit i could be like papi and never have to play the field

I really like Ortiz, he is a great ambassador of the game. BUT, no DH has ever been voted in, that simple.

**TheMoneyShot** · 05-30-16, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by manny24

called to tell him about this post

Roid rage

**d2bets** · 05-30-16, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by 44 Mag

I really like Ortiz, he is a great ambassador of the game. BUT, no DH has ever been voted in, that simple.

DH Has only been around since '74. Haven't been that many candidates. Edgar Martinez is the only one that comes to mind. No reason why a DH can't make it. It will happen eventually. Ortiz could be the first. And while he has been mostly DH, he also has played a few hundred games as a 1B.

Also, what about Frank Thomas? The majority of his starts in his career was actually as DH.

Paul Molitor became DH. Harold Baines. Don Baylor.

**mikefan1034** · 05-30-16, 12:32 PM

What u guys fail to realize Is MLB has a very good drug testing system. Ortiz has passed every single year. He's a lock for the hall. If anything jeter was on roids. Ortiz is the greatest clutch player in baseball he deserves 100 percent of the vote but I'll settle with 99 percent

**44 Mag** · 05-30-16, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

DH Has only been around since '74. Haven't been that many candidates. Edgar Martinez is the only one that comes to mind. No reason why a DH can't make it. It will happen eventually. Ortiz could be the first. And while he has been mostly DH, he also has played a few hundred games as a 1B.

Also, what about Frank Thomas? The majority of his starts in his career was actually as DH.

Paul Molitor became DH. Harold Baines. Don Baylor.

I didn't say he doesn't deserve it, I believe he does. But, I don't make the rules, (it's not a rule, it's sports writers) Just saying DH's don't get in. The guys you mentioned played the field the majority of their careers. I used to love seeing Don Baylor stand there and take fastballs of his huge biceps and walk to first base, like saying thank you. LOL.

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 05-30-16, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Hard to imagine he's clean, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Originally posted by opie1988

ZERO percent chance he isn't fukkin doping. I don't give a fukk how "naturally gifted" of a hitter you are...no motherfukker is hitting major league pitching like this at 40+. It ain't happening.

Don't be a fukkin idiot.

**El Nino** · 05-30-16, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by mikefan1034

What u guys fail to realize Is MLB has a very good drug testing system. Ortiz has passed every single year. He's a lock for the hall. If anything jeter was on roids. Ortiz is the greatest clutch player in baseball he deserves 100 percent of the vote but I'll settle with 99 percent

So did Bonds...what's your point?

The guy is dumpy, yet is defying hundreds of years of what we know about physical deterioration of athletes over time. The only ones getting popped for roids are dumbinthecans and poor players that can't afford the undetectable stuff. The black market for PED's will always be ahead of the best testing facilities, even USADA. The stuff leaves your system so fast these days, it's hard to get caught if you know what you are doing.

**d2bets** · 05-30-16, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by 44 Mag

I didn't say he doesn't deserve it, I believe he does. But, I don't make the rules, (it's not a rule, it's sports writers) Just saying DH's don't get in. The guys you mentioned played the field the majority of their careers. I used to love seeing Don Baylor stand there and take fastballs of his huge biceps and walk to first base, like saying thank you. LOL.

Check the numbers on Big Frank. Majority of starts were DH.

Regardless, there's a first for everything. Only thing that could keep Ortiz out is the steroid cloud.

**opie1988** · 05-30-16, 01:09 PM

The motherfukker juices. Period. Name me
one clean athlete who's game IMPROVED after age 35??

Use your heads, motherfukkers.

**TheMoneyShot** · 05-30-16, 01:14 PM

I haven't even been watching that much baseball this year.

But if someone says David Ortiz is having an amazing season.

And the man is 40 or whatever....

Name anyone that had those stats at 38-40? No one really.

Guy is taking some of that Uganda sh#$

**d2bets** · 05-30-16, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by opie1988

The motherfukker juices. Period. Name me
one clean athlete who's game IMPROVED after age 35??

Use your heads, motherfukkers.

Ben Zobrist is 35 and seems to be getting better. He must be juicing?

Seems like a big of a generalization.