Trump just sealed the deal... no way I vote for him and you shouldn't either

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  • The Kraken
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    • 12-25-11
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    #211
    A fence

    Trumps great wall is now a fence

    One thing I like about Trump is he's a conman and he is always hustling and him winning the GOP is possibly one of the greatest rackets of all times. Good for him, sucks to be a Republican these days
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    • Dr.Gonzo
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      #212
      Originally posted by grease lightnin
      Okay, explain to me how I have "clearly" misrepresented my level of intelligence, "Dr. Gonzo". You do realize Hunter S. Thompson was a democrat, right?
      Lots of fear mongering and insinuation that is not backed up with anything cogent.

      No, I didn't realize, however will I recover from this stumping.
      Last edited by Dr.Gonzo; 05-12-16, 12:56 PM.
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      • grease lightnin
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        • 10-01-12
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        #213
        Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
        Lots of fear mongering and insinuation that is not backed up with anything congent.

        No, I didn't realize, however will I recover from this stumping.

        You mean cogent. If I haven't done a good enough job explaining how important it is for the US to keep it's place as the gold standard in global credit markets, then just go back and read the CNBC article I linked in the 2nd or 3rd page. It isn't important what you think about me, it is just important that you think.
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        • Dr.Gonzo
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          #214
          Nothing will change as it pertains to treasuries and you know it, this is poor fear mongering.
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          • grease lightnin
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            • 10-01-12
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            #215
            Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
            Nothing will change as it pertains to treasuries and you know it, this is poor fear mongering.
            No sir. If we were trying to negotiate with bond holders to put their bonds at less than par it would fukk us royally. All of us. I am actually having a hard time understanding why I can't get you guys to understand it Do you remember when our debt was downgraded from AAA to AA+? Bond issuers who "negotiate" get junk status. It would cause deeeep automatic spending cuts because we wouldn't be able to pay the service on newly issued debt--the rates would be too high. Domino effect from there.
            Last edited by grease lightnin; 05-12-16, 01:24 PM.
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            • rkelly110
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              • 10-05-09
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              #216
              I think lightning man has just named the apocalypse we are destined to have if Trump gets in.

              Been saying it for months. if a Repub gets in, Bush's depression will be pale in comparison. People will be begging for
              the good old Obama days.
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              • DwightShrute
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                • 01-17-09
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                #217
                Originally posted by rkelly110
                I think lightning man has just named the apocalypse we are destined to have if Trump gets in.

                Been saying it for months. if a Repub gets in, Bush's depression will be pale in comparison. People will be begging for
                the good old Obama days.
                where do you get this stuff from? You must think people are so stupid that they actually believe it. Not everyone is like acoochy.

                Try reading what cause the economic crisis.
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                • grease lightnin
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                  • 10-01-12
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by rkelly110
                  I think lightning man has just named the apocalypse we are destined to have if Trump gets in.

                  Been saying it for months. if a Repub gets in, Bush's depression will be pale in comparison. People will be begging for
                  the good old Obama days.
                  Look, I want to be clear... Do I believe that Donald would ever get anywhere on something like this? No. Nobody appointed Treasury Secretary would allow it, Congress wouldn't allow it, etc.... But would he say things that could be quite damaging? Hell yes. I am SURE he heard from many after making this comment how stupid it was, yet he went and said it again in the following days. He is simply unfit for the office.

                  People have been saying for months that he was a loose cannon and unfit, but I could care less if he runs his mouth at Kim Jong Un or Khamheni, but fukk, I don't know foreign policy anymore than the next guy...

                  Does anyone know if it's too late for third party candidates? Is anybody else running?
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                  • grease lightnin
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                    • 10-01-12
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                    #219


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                    • rkelly110
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                      where do you get this stuff from? You must think people are so stupid that they actually believe it. Not everyone is like acoochy.

                      Try reading what cause the economic crisis.
                      Just having premonitions and being observant. Europe isn't doing so good. Our recovery has been going on too long.
                      Too many Repubs in control. Russia playing games. N Korea is playing games. China and Japan are playing games.
                      On and on. The writing is on the wall, we just need to read it.

                      I predicted the last recession. Saved like crazy and paid off bills. Glad I did, I got hit.
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                      • ACoochy
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                        • 08-19-09
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                        #221
                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                        Just having premonitions and being observant. Europe isn't doing so good. Our recovery has been going on too long.
                        Too many Repubs in control. Russia playing games. N Korea is playing games. China and Japan are playing games.
                        On and on. The writing is on the wall, we just need to read it.

                        I predicted the last recession. Saved like crazy and paid off bills. Glad I did, I got hit.
                        Guys like Shruter still are yet to understand that actions have consequences.

                        Some of us aren't able to live in a bubble like him...
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                        • rkelly110
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                          • 10-05-09
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                          #222
                          Originally posted by grease lightnin
                          Look, I want to be clear... Do I believe that Donald would ever get anywhere on something like this? No. Nobody appointed Treasury Secretary would allow it, Congress wouldn't allow it, etc.... But would he say things that could be quite damaging? Hell yes. I am SURE he heard from many after making this comment how stupid it was, yet he went and said it again in the following days. He is simply unfit for the office.

                          People have been saying for months that he was a loose cannon and unfit, but I could care less if he runs his mouth at Kim Jong Un or Khamheni, but fukk, I don't know foreign policy anymore than the next guy...

                          Does anyone know if it's too late for third party candidates? Is anybody else running?
                          Gary Johnson. Saw him on a couple of cable networks. Heavy left leaning, but has a positive record of progress.
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                          • rkelly110
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                            • 10-05-09
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                            #223
                            Originally posted by ACoochy
                            Guys like Shruter still are yet to understand that actions have consequences.

                            Some of us aren't able to live in a bubble like him...
                            If Trump gets in, which I think he will, Trump will finally realize words do matter, unfortunately, the US and
                            the world will bear the brunt.
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                            • brooks85
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                              • 01-05-09
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                              #224
                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                              A fence

                              Trumps great wall is now a fence

                              One thing I like about Trump is he's a conman and he is always hustling and him winning the GOP is possibly one of the greatest rackets of all times. Good for him, sucks to be a Republican these days

                              your desperation is showing


                              Originally posted by rkelly110
                              I think lightning man has just named the apocalypse we are destined to have if Trump gets in.

                              Been saying it for months. if a Repub gets in, Bush's depression will be pale in comparison. People will be begging for
                              the good old Obama days.


                              lol at least you don't have to hold back your lies anymore. Let that stupid shine rkelly.
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                              • The Kraken
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                                • 12-25-11
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                                #225
                                What are you talking about? Desperation for what?

                                I'm in that class of people that the regardless who the president is, it doesn't affect me outside of SCOTUS appointments

                                Everything I said is spot on, the wall is a goddamned joke, it absolutely sucks to be a republican these days and the party fractured, the GOP nominee can't even garner the support of the party, hell, Im not sure the gop even has a nominee

                                Plus Trump is a conman and a histler, nothing wrong with that, its one of his few redeemable qualities in my book
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                                • brooks85
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                                  • 01-05-09
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                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                  What are you talking about? Desperation for what?

                                  I'm in that class of people that the regardless who the president is, it doesn't affect me outside of SCOTUS appointments

                                  Everything I said is spot on,the wall is a goddamned joke, it absolutely sucks to be a republican these days and the party fractured, the GOP nominee can't even garner the support of the party, hell, Im not sure the gop even has a nominee

                                  Plus Trump is a conman and a histler, nothing wrong with that, its one of his few redeemable qualities in my book


                                  to try and justify your reasoning for not supporting trump. Wall or fence, they both work. You're desperate.
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                                  • DwightShrute
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                                    • 01-17-09
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                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                                    What are you talking about? Desperation for what?

                                    I'm in that class of people that the regardless who the president is, it doesn't affect me outside of SCOTUS appointments

                                    Everything I said is spot on, the wall is a goddamned joke, it absolutely sucks to be a republican these days and the party fractured, the GOP nominee can't even garner the support of the party, hell, Im not sure the gop even has a nominee

                                    Plus Trump is a conman and a histler, nothing wrong with that, its one of his few redeemable qualities in my book
                                    you're funny!
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                                    • jtoler
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                                      • 12-17-13
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                                      #228
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                                      • Dr.Gonzo
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                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                        No sir. If we were trying to negotiate with bond holders to put their bonds at less than par it would fukk us royally. All of us. I am actually having a hard time understanding why I can't get you guys to understand it Do you remember when our debt was downgraded from AAA to AA+? Bond issuers who "negotiate" get junk status. It would cause deeeep automatic spending cuts because we wouldn't be able to pay the service on newly issued debt--the rates would be too high. Domino effect from there.
                                        Nonsense, Trump understands you can just turn on the printers to service the debt, so it is a non issue as far as insolvency goes at this stage. Of course this policy is harmful as it rewards borrowers and punishes savers, but the public has accepted this standard monetary policy.

                                        I disagree with your assertion, China has 4 trillion in US treasuries and is reliant on exports, they have an interest in the dollar maintaining it's purchasing power given their reserves but also wish for their exports to be attractive to consumers in the US. It's not beyond the realms of possibility for them to accept a few points reduction on some of their bonds during trade negotiation, given the U.S. is the country in a position of strength. China loses when the monetary supply is increased to service the depth, China loses when facing the imposition of tariffs.
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                                        • Dr.Gonzo
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                                          • 12-05-09
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                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                          CNBC late to the party. I knows what I speaks, when I speaks on the financial markets, you listens....
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                                          • grease lightnin
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                                            • 10-01-12
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                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                            Nonsense, Trump understands you can just turn on the printers to service the debt, so it is a non issue as far as insolvency goes at this stage. Of course this policy is harmful as it rewards borrowers and punishes savers, but the public has accepted this standard monetary policy.

                                            I disagree with your assertion, China has 4 trillion in US treasuries and is reliant on exports, they have an interest in the dollar maintaining it's purchasing power given their reserves but also wish for their exports to be attractive to consumers in the US. It's not beyond the realms of possibility for them to accept a few points reduction on some of their bonds during trade negotiation, given the U.S. is the country in a position of strength. China loses when the monetary supply is increased to service the depth, China loses when facing the imposition of tariffs.
                                            Ok bud. It is just going over your head. Have at it. Get you some Trump.
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                                            • khicks26
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                                              #232
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                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                #233
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                                                • jtoler
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                                                  • 12-17-13
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                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by khicks26
                                                  Wonder what it'll be tomorrow. Guy is very dangerous, people are so used to him flip flopping that if he was in power he could say something crucial to our well being and change on a dime, yet Pubs dont mind it at all.
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                                                  • pavyracer
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                                                    #235
                                                    Trump is going to ban Muslims, Mexicans and Indians. Then who is going to fill up our cars with gas and mow our lawns? Trump not smart to be president.
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                                                    • khicks26
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                                                      #236
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                                                      • DwightShrute
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                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                        Trump is going to ban Muslims, Mexicans and Indians. Then who is going to fill up our cars with gas and mow our lawns? Trump not smart to be president.
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                                                        • DwightShrute
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                                                          • khicks26
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                                                            #239
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                                                            • ACoochy
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                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by jtoler
                                                              Wonder what it'll be tomorrow. Guy is very dangerous, people are so used to him flip flopping that if he was in power he could say something crucial to our well being and change on a dime, yet Pubs dont mind it at all.
                                                              Proof that most pubs are broke arse hikks because with Captain flip flop at the helm the markets will roller coaster more than ever, with more downs than ups given Drumpf's manic egoist attitude...
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                                                              • khicks26
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                                                                • DwightShrute
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                                                                  • khicks26
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
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                                                                      • jtoler
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                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by khicks26
                                                                        A pathetic compulsive liar, when presented with the truth about what he said about Iraq, he pathologically and compulsively lied and finished it with "whatever." He has a mental illness.
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